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    hey now! nobody cares about the facts, Prog (and...

    hey now! nobody cares about the facts, Prog (and Rock and Roll) is all white! So stop posting facts! Jazz musicians are not capable of playing Prog or even Rock beats; all they can do is Jazz,...
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    never have I suggested such a thing the early...

    never have I suggested such a thing

    the early progressive Rock music movement of the late 60s-early 70s was an approach to broaden Rock music from its simplistic V/C/V/B/C roots and there were...
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    I never endeavored to hear any Juluka or Savuka...

    I never endeavored to hear any Juluka or Savuka but I think I should

    Johnny Clegg seems like he was one of this world's beautiful souls
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    :lol no Notsees here... hopefully no KKK either...

    :lol no Notsees here... hopefully no KKK either :lol
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    Bill, I respect your opinions as well, which is...

    Bill, I respect your opinions as well, which is precisely why I do not know why you are taking offense to my position. Only a closet racist has any reason to take offense to my position and I am...
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    perhaps many people did not see "a great racist...

    perhaps many people did not see "a great racist groundswell" before 2016 either. Like I said, it's in the *exclusion* not in the direct *words*
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    the exclusion is the problem especially given...

    the exclusion is the problem

    especially given the contributions of all the non-white artists to the advent of the progressive Rock scene in the late 60s-early 70s

    this is quite poignant in 2019...
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    :lol love it! this is the crux of the matter...

    :lol love it!

    this is the crux of the matter TO ME PERSONALLY
    when I see the large variety of artists referred to as "prog"; artists who are way closer to Jazz Rock than Symph Rock, that is the...
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    perfectly stated

    perfectly stated
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    not at all... you made my point by emphasizing...

    not at all... you made my point by emphasizing the lowest common denominator/most popular of the style. There are way too many (and 1 is too many to be sure) people who will point to those two bands...
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    thanks for making my point

    thanks for making my point
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    I'm not sure the term "prog" has a "common...

    I'm not sure the term "prog" has a "common parlance". It truly seems to mean something different to each fan.

    I suppose though, that it was precisely when a minority but loud faction of fans began...
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    indeed! I always understood "prog" to be short...

    indeed! I always understood "prog" to be short for "progressive Rock music" but there are people who want "prog" to exclude a huge amount of progressive Rock music that was a big part of the advent...
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    so true... too many weenies trying to put it all...

    so true... too many weenies trying to put it all in a tiny little white British gift wrapped box make people point and laugh at "prog"
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    pretty cool stuff for no Keys... definitely...

    pretty cool stuff for no Keys...
    definitely does not sound like any of the music created by the artists of all races, ethnicity and musical backgrounds who were part of the advent of Progressive...
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    ^^^^ I think you can magnify the picture more...

    ^^^^
    I think you can magnify the picture more after you click on it to open it if you click on it again
    and yeah... step 8 should read

    8. Begin with one of us blindfolded, just analyzing and...
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    while I would qualify the Godfather movies as...

    while I would qualify the Godfather movies as violent, they certainly do not approach the level of violence seen in about half the movies today... if it is the violence that you are wanting to avoid....
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    yes, that was the winner of this preliminary...

    yes, that was the winner of this preliminary round. It was the unanimous winner of the contest since both my wife and I had it in 1st, though the Milk Mustachio from Albuquerque was a unanimous,...
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    13210 hope this works

    13210

    hope this works
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    just finished a double-blind evaluation of...

    just finished a double-blind evaluation of Milk/Sweet Stouts
    excellent ones from Reno and Albuquerque

    I keep getting an 'error' message when I try to upload the pic... anyone else experience...
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    personally, I can appreciate many styles of...

    personally, I can appreciate many styles of music, but my favorite style is a combination of styles. The way progressive Rock music started out in the late 60s-early 70s before it became a parody of...
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    yup... Lagers need to be drunk fresh Ales not...

    yup... Lagers need to be drunk fresh

    Ales not so much, especially over 6% then age aint nuthin but a number
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    both correct the term "progressive" was being...

    both correct

    the term "progressive" was being applied to many artists playing heavy electric music in the late 60s
    the term "progressive Rock" began to be used in the early 70s and included many...
  24. because otherwise you expose yourself by the...

    because otherwise you expose yourself by the Svettiness
  25. ^^^ that could very well be the ugliest album...

    ^^^
    that could very well be the ugliest album cover I have ever seen!
  26. heh... funny the "was" in the thread title :lol ...

    heh... funny the "was" in the thread title :lol

    he definitely contributed to the Yes sound... but I never really felt like he was a great guitarist at all, just a good supporting actor
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    when they show the 1977 film, do they show the...

    when they show the 1977 film, do they show the original print or the doctored 90s version?
  28. I really like the Blue Motion album as well ...

    I really like the Blue Motion album as well

    and I'll add these:

    Vollenweider, Andreas Dancing with the Lion
    Floyd Hunchback Group
    Gruntz, George 2001 Keys Piano Conclave
    Thønk Earth...
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    heh... even Jon Anderson doesn't know what they...

    heh... even Jon Anderson doesn't know what they mean!
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    indeed! I actually prefer strong opinions in...

    indeed!

    I actually prefer strong opinions in the lyrics of the music I listen to. But if I pay $75-$150 to go see an artist I want to hear their music (and weighty lyrics if that's part of their...
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    but I said "celebs" not musicians. Music has...

    but I said "celebs" not musicians. Music has always been a vehicle for opinion and that is perfectly fine... in the music. Now, if a musician wants to run for public office, that's their problem....
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    ^^^^ this

    ^^^^
    this
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    I think there's some rugby dude from down under...

    I think there's some rugby dude from down under who has been fired for stating his opinion

    celebs should keep their opinions to themselves really
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    wow... any recordings of that lineup?!

    wow... any recordings of that lineup?!
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    For me, Greek Variations is a real good album....

    For me, Greek Variations is a real good album. The side long composed suite is especially worth the price. But there are 2 or 3 pieces on the other side that are also very nice.
    I heard that...
  36. ^^^ aint nuthin Hip-Hop bout dat tho it's a...

    ^^^
    aint nuthin Hip-Hop bout dat

    tho it's a little slick with those Strings
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    Neil Ardley

    This artist has recorded some thoroughly composed and real excellent Jazz Rock Prog from the classic era of progressive Rock music. His first, Greek Variations & Other Aegean Exercises from 1970 is...
  38. this will definitely be welcome

    this will definitely be welcome
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    oat cakes or oak casks bet it's the former

    oat cakes or oak casks

    bet it's the former
  40. love those 2 albums... hope they make this happen

    love those 2 albums... hope they make this happen
  41. COOL!

    COOL!
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    If I'm not mistaken, Huggy is talking about the...

    If I'm not mistaken, Huggy is talking about the Bolero as a composition style and not trying to imply that Crim or Emo were attempting a cover version of Ravel's piece. i.e. their version of the...
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    droooooooooool :drool

    droooooooooool

    :drool
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    for the edification of those who give a rats ass...

    for the edification of those who give a rats ass

    the first video (though it says "Bolero") is a classic Rumba
    the first half of the second video is a stone cold classic Bolero
    the third video is...
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    heh... indeed, this is the case

    heh... indeed, this is the case
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z8iMjcFWUI&list=O...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z8iMjcFWUI&list=OLAK5uy_mAck-kOHTbpY7eivZTYgC0tze4_C38iFA
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    I remember they played that commercial A LOT...

    I remember they played that commercial A LOT before the debut of the movie... had everyone really stoked in anticipation!
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    Rod Serling regretted doing Night Gallery. He...

    Rod Serling regretted doing Night Gallery. He didn't write the stories, he was just used as a way to draw TZ fans
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    I tried to like the TZ reboot of the 90s (isn't...

    I tried to like the TZ reboot of the 90s (isn't there another reboot right now?) but the stories just did not have the magic of the ones Rod Serling wrote and chose for his original series.
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    picked up this phenomenal brew... DA BOMB I tellz...

    picked up this phenomenal brew... DA BOMB I tellz ya!

    13151
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    I like the Maple tree thing, but as a Christian I...

    I like the Maple tree thing, but as a Christian I am careful to avoid music with lyrics alluding to evil things and I've never heard any such thing in any Crimso piece, so I'm not bothered by King...
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    funny you should mention OL... I also bought the...

    funny you should mention OL... I also bought the OL collection on DVD because I remember those being excellent when I was a kid

    Sadly, though there are a few great episodes, the majority of OL...
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    oh yeah... TRF was very good along with Columbo ...

    oh yeah... TRF was very good along with Columbo

    and I remember when The Andromeda Strain came out. Good tension in that one!
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    heh... obviously, from what I've stated already...

    heh... obviously, from what I've stated already about TZ, I do too. My Season 3 favorites are:
    The Shelter
    The Passerby
    The Trade-Ins
    The Gift

    Those 4 are sheer excellence IMO. But Season 3...
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    they are all good really but Atlantis might have...

    they are all good really but Atlantis might have the edge for me
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    so... Geddy didn't have enough sense to use a...

    so... Geddy didn't have enough sense to use a Rick... did he at least play with a plectrum?! :O
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    no let up I mean, I like these guys but by the...

    no let up

    I mean, I like these guys but by the end of the album you feel like you've just done a 60 minute high intensity aerobic workout. A bit more nuance and variation of sound wouldn't hurt....
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    what are your favorites from season 3 Chris? ...

    what are your favorites from season 3 Chris?

    cool info about Serling's college Hal
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    just returned from a 3 week trip to the Rockies ...

    just returned from a 3 week trip to the Rockies

    got some excellent brews... more later
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    I could very well be the biggest TZ fan on the...

    I could very well be the biggest TZ fan on the planet. That said... the hour-long format did not work very well for Rod Serling's style of storytelling. There tended to be a lot of obvious padding in...
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