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    The Heaven's Gate of pop music: a fascinating...

    The Heaven's Gate of pop music: a fascinating mess, but not as much of a failure as rumor would hold.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q63OhjXmjw4
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    Wonder what this means. My understanding is...

    Wonder what this means.

    My understanding is that Mike Patton and Trey Spruance made up a while ago, and are on good terms now. But Trevor Dunn, who's been building a busy career as a first call...
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    What happened to Dante Kester? He's been with C-A...

    What happened to Dante Kester? He's been with C-A for years, and moved to Chicago to play with them.
  5. You have the same musicians listed for both...

    You have the same musicians listed for both bands. This might not be correct.
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    Heere are some musikcs froom farfarfar west of...

    Heere are some musikcs froom farfarfar west of Yugoslaviatovitch

    - Svetonio



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bUo7mXRAcE
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip75JbrJVzE ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip75JbrJVzE

    Interesting. To me this sounds a whole lot like Thinking Plague, and that was what I thought as soon as I heard it. From the highly chromatic melodies...
  8. Thread: Zolo Music

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    Also, if you have ideas that cut across the grain...

    Also, if you have ideas that cut across the grain and go sideways to conventional thinking, you wind up needing to create your own terminology because standard terms for your concepts don't exist.
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    That is not Nils in the Facebook photo. ...

    That is not Nils in the Facebook photo.

    Although on the subject of him, and the rest of SGM:

    When I first heard Introducing Lemon, I was baffled by the portentous recitation of bad poetry...
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    Y'know, there's something oddly familiar about...

    Y'know, there's something oddly familiar about that guy in the middle of the photo, between Jeff L. and Mike H. Maybe it's the horn he's holding - I've only seen one person in a rock band play that...
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    Let me guess.... They played nothing but...

    Let me guess....

    They played nothing but "Filet of Nod" for three hours.

    But tonight, they're going to play "Camp O'Physique" for three hours.
  12. Thread: Zolo Music

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    A guy called Zaragon, who occasionally posts...

    A guy called Zaragon, who occasionally posts here, invented that category; I met him once, under the name of Terry Sharkie (he's used various names). The term has nothing to do with sales. He has a...
  13. So Richie's a professional musician himself, who...

    So Richie's a professional musician himself, who plays metal for a living but prog for fun. This explains things. I'd figured he was a lawyer or plumber who just did music as a hobby, and happened to...
  14. Yes. And I wonder how they get guys like him and...

    Yes. And I wonder how they get guys like him and Tom Brislin - first-call professionals - for what's essentially a very good basement band. I suppose this series does have a certain Internet...
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    Not surprising, though. They were one of the few...

    Not surprising, though. They were one of the few rock bands that really put considerable thought into, and had, an intellectual basis for almost everything they did; and moreover, one of the few for...
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    I think it might be two bands: C-A headlining,...

    I think it might be two bands: C-A headlining, and the jazz (?) trio of Lonberg-Holm, Houston and Vida as openers.
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    In a way, I can hear it in Vander: Both use...

    In a way, I can hear it in Vander: Both use repeating modal vamps at great length, although Coltrane would use one single vamp as a foundation for the whole of a towering solo, while Vander uses them...
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    Not quite indefinable. You could define them...

    Not quite indefinable.

    You could define them in three words: The Norwegian Bubblemath.

    Of course, that sets up the question of who Bubblemath are, and how to define their sound, but that...
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    Copy the video URL, click on the little...

    Copy the video URL, click on the little movie-frame icon (on my display, it's second from the right in the toolbar above the entry window you get when you click Reply), paste the URL into the...
  20. There's no question that he knows - - that...

    There's no question that he knows -

    - that few people here, if any, agree with his broad-to-the-point-of-meaningless personal definitions of "rock" and "progressive rock".

    - that accusing...
  21. Unless it's it's Svetoomio pretending to be...

    Unless it's it's Svetoomio pretending to be Louie. It's certainly easy to imitate MT's particular cultural/societal obsession, and thus let him take the blame for the trespasses of another. And from...
  22. In a way, her voice sounds what Jon's might have...

    In a way, her voice sounds what Jon's might have sounded like if he'd been a woman - his voice is squeaky for a man's, and hers is squeaky for a woman's. Which is really squeaky.
  23. Hey-la, hey-hello-ah. Hey-la, hey-hello-ah. ...

    Hey-la, hey-hello-ah.
    Hey-la, hey-hello-ah.
    Hey-la, hey-hello-ah. (Ump-cha; ump-cha.)
    Hey-la, hey-hello-ah. (Ump-cha; ump-cha.)
    Hey-la, hey-hello-ah. (Ump-cha; ump-cha).......
  24. That wasn't what I was referring to. It was...

    That wasn't what I was referring to. It was somebody else, who, I think, had actually been here for a while and distinguished himself as something of a "character", opinionated but not objectionable,...
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    That's partly because Holdsy's influences weren't...

    That's partly because Holdsy's influences weren't guitar players at all - they were sax players melodically, and perhaps piano players chordally. And his tone reflects that: He tried as much as he...
  26. More psych than prog, but interesting psych. ...

    More psych than prog, but interesting psych.

    Also, their drummer was Roger North, who later became semi-famous as the manufacturer of North drums, which looked like sousaphone bells. You might...
  27. Let's see...... ......Maslin joined yesterday,...

    Let's see......

    ......Maslin joined yesterday, immediately posted a YouTube link. I wonder........
  28. There's always been a certain number of people on...

    There's always been a certain number of people on here like that. Ones considerably worse, for that matter. Svetoonio is just annoying in a way analogous to Wallace - he posts too many YT links,...
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    Isn't it more like the reverse? But, if you...

    Isn't it more like the reverse?

    But, if you can afford the best players, why not hire them? Steely Dan did and do the same thing. And Joni can write songs, which many jazz/fusion musicians aren't...
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    And wow, that "Agoston" sure posts a lot of...

    And wow, that "Agoston" sure posts a lot of YouTube clips of Eastern European bands!
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    That and folk music, specifically Dylan. Dylan...

    That and folk music, specifically Dylan. Dylan and his peers were who they listened to, and Fifties R'nR, blues, and R&B was what they danced and partied to.
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    Their guitarist, Jack Ross, also plays with Anna...

    Their guitarist, Jack Ross, also plays with Anna Meredith.
  33. Here's another Andy Akiho piece, this one for...

    Here's another Andy Akiho piece, this one for full steel band. It's fascinating because of the way he completely re-thinks the steel band - each pan becomes not just a melodic instrument, as the West...
  34. Another good piece, and good composer. Akiho is...

    Another good piece, and good composer. Akiho is one of the few classical steel pan virtuosos - he started out as a marching band drummer, developed an interest in steel pan, initially played...
  35. I'm listening to the piece, and I'm not sure how...

    I'm listening to the piece, and I'm not sure how well it works. The guitar and orchestra don't really blend all that well, and the occasional quotes are just plain annoying. The Bang-on-a-Can...
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    Both excellent. Lehman's Mise en Abime is a...

    Both excellent. Lehman's Mise en Abime is a stunner, and TS plays drums on it. And while I wasn't terribly impressed by the one Tyshawn Sorey recording I bought, I saw his trio live at last year's...
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    And here's a cover of her relatively early tune...

    And here's a cover of her relatively early tune "Nautilus". That piece was her first foray into pop music (or sort-of-pop-music), as opposed to formal classical composition, and apparently the result...
  38. There's a thread already on Anna Meredith:...

    There's a thread already on Anna Meredith: https://www.progressiveears.org/forum/showthread.php/17996-Anna-Meredith, from which I repost this excellent video.

    ...
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    I can see Jacob's point, though I don't agree...

    I can see Jacob's point, though I don't agree with him. Kamasi does a whole lot of things, but he doesn't do any single one of them world-class. There's certainly better jazz composers out there,...
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    Although one thing that's immediately obvious is...

    Although one thing that's immediately obvious is that Rocket Man doesn't pretend to be realistic at all, so you might guess that the story it shows on screen was only true in the broadest outline.
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    One point to mention about Rocket Man: It wasn't,...

    One point to mention about Rocket Man: It wasn't, of course, intended to be anything realistic; I think it might have been meant as a depiction of what Elton's life felt like to him, and maybe of how...
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    In Anna's case, though, she didn't do pop music...

    In Anna's case, though, she didn't do pop music at all until the last five years or so; and I think she came into it sideways from a straight-up, formally trained classical composition background....
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    To some extent. Some of them break down...

    To some extent.

    Some of them break down completely, as Steve says, with even the frame disassembling into its component pieces. On others, the bars and resonators come off but the frame stays...
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    They played ducks and drakes with when something...

    They played ducks and drakes with when something occurred - it's one criticism of the movie.
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    Here's a truly odd one - a concerto for amplified...

    Here's a truly odd one - a concerto for amplified vocal-effects virtuoso, small amplified vocal-effects choir, and chamber orchestra. The vocal-effects guy, Simon Shlomo Kahn (AKA Shlomo), seems to...
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    In Rocket Man, they also omitted Long John Baldry...

    In Rocket Man, they also omitted Long John Baldry - a good friend of Elton's, probably the first gay man he knew well, and the source of half his stage name.

    The one thing I found startling about...
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    It's frustrating. I'm in my mid-sixties, and I'm...

    It's frustrating. I'm in my mid-sixties, and I'm still looking for and listening to new music that, as someone put it, "scratches the same itch" as the stuff I grew up on - see the Troot and Anna...
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    Don't know anything about them, and that's...

    Don't know anything about them, and that's exactly why I go to Progday - to catch bands I don't know anything about.
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    Here's a large orchestral piece from last year:...

    Here's a large orchestral piece from last year: Five Telegrams - Sender & Receiver. It was a commission for the BBC Proms, in memorium of World War I, and was written in collaboration with 59...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=yj...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=yjmZLaymJU8

    Although it doesn't (to me) sound all that different. Anna (the composer/keyboardist/clarinetist/percussionist) has remarked that she...
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    I missed them in Portland. Had tickets and...

    I missed them in Portland. Had tickets and everything, then tripped in my back yard, fell, put out my hand to catch myself, caught myself, but dislocated my shoulder. Spent 7-to-9 hours at the...
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    In a way, I'm doing the same thing in Portland,...

    In a way, I'm doing the same thing in Portland, OR: I sort of fell sideways into running an open mic at a local cafe, I perform every month, and prog is what I play. Not easy-to-listen-to stuff,...
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    Same for me. But some have argued exactly the...

    Same for me. But some have argued exactly the opposite - that it was always called "Art Rock" and that "progressive" was a later coinage. By the way, I only heard it called "prog" during the last...
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    I could see why. There's nobody better at doing...

    I could see why. There's nobody better at doing specifically what The Enid do - genuine light-classical music played by an expanded rock band - than The Enid. If he really loved that music, and quit...
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    What's the reference, or is there none?

    What's the reference, or is there none?
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    I know who he is, but never heard him until a few...

    I know who he is, but never heard him until a few minutes ago. I need to fix that.
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    John Wayne said, "A man's got to do, what a man's...

    John Wayne said, "A man's got to do, what a man's got to do."






    His dog said, "A dog's got to doo-doo, what a dog's got to doo-doo." (Actually, he said, "Woof....
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    But those tunes don't sound evil difficult, like...

    But those tunes don't sound evil difficult, like Thinking Plague or some Crimson or even some of my stuff. Yes, there's a few key, mood, and meter changes, and they're a bit more up-tempo than some...
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    Well, you know what John Wayne and his dog said.

    Well, you know what John Wayne and his dog said.
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    You could get players who can read, and play the...

    You could get players who can read, and play the gig with sheet music. The jazz and classical guys do that, and no one thinks less of them because of it. People who know anything about Cirrus Bay -...
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