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    Oh indeed - I mean that's the other point of my...

    Oh indeed - I mean that's the other point of my post - I don't think anyone would dare to say that "Danger Money" was as significant and/or better than the S/T - indeed, had it come out in 1975 or...
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    Great point - Even "Nothing To Lose" with its...

    Great point - Even "Nothing To Lose" with its violin solo is left field enough - not to mention in my humble opinion better than most Asia (specially from the 2nd album on - and on par with the best...
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    Maybe I overstated - however I believe that it...

    Maybe I overstated - however I believe that it has enough of its own personality to sidestep any accusations of being a clone.

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    Indeed - that conflict between their approach and...

    Indeed - that conflict between their approach and Jobson/Wetton did not always yield memorable results - I mean the album is excellent - on its own is a Prog classic... but again, is a matter of...
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    U.K. - First Album vs. Danger Money

    Hi all - apologies if the thread is dumb - but I am insanely curious - Have come to the realization that while the Prog Snob in me *claims* to prefer U.K.'s first album - I mean - Bruford!...
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    HA! :D Funny joke! :D - but also wise. ...

    HA! :D

    Funny joke! :D - but also wise. Indeed, Led Zeppelin is guilty of worse sins than the Taurus/Stairway situation. For a long time I thought what they did to Jake Holmes was unforgivable,...
  7. Loved The Endless River - Always felt that Rick...

    Loved The Endless River - Always felt that Rick Wright is the star of that album - FINALLY! - I thought they botched the finale - "Louder than words" - I know what they (or Gilmour) were trying to...
  8. wow - interesting - the punk originator and the...

    wow - interesting - the punk originator and the italian proggers :D Well.. Battiato himself started as an avant-garde progger - then turned pop AND successful...

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  9. Yup - brain fart, probably - amazingly, my...

    Yup - brain fart, probably - amazingly, my intention was clear - you got it! :D

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  10. Actually I believe that they stayed on the...

    Actually I believe that they stayed on the "Adult Contemporary" path way long after Jerome left - Some of the stuff where Thomas was already involved, with the sax and the multi percussion was...
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    Jerome Froese with Tangerine Dream

    Jerome Froese with Tangerine Dream
  12. Oh nice! I will confess, fess up, admit....

    Oh nice!

    I will confess, fess up, admit. Initially I looked down on this version of TD, prejudiced by the lack of original members. But wow. This music (and more I have heard from this...
  13. While very different from the first two albums...

    While very different from the first two albums (which to my mind is what I think of when I think classic PFM), it is a very good album. Not even close to jumping the shark. To me that honour belongs...
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    Gotta say - the words "Live From Las Vegas" does...

    Gotta say - the words "Live From Las Vegas" does not jibe with a Roger Dean cover... in fact of all that verbiage clashes with the cover - imagine the same cover... without the hype sticker (...
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    Well - just found it on Spotify. As I said...

    Well - just found it on Spotify.

    As I said before - I have fallen out of love over the years with Wakey - too much stuff that just doesn't work. However this one does. A simple concept done...
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    haha indeed - a pipe dream but possible (since...

    haha indeed - a pipe dream but possible (since everyone is alive of course) version of Yes

    Jon Anderson
    Roine Stolt
    Tony Levin
    Patrick Moraz/Rick Wakeman (I don't care I love them both as...
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    I hope I am not derailing the conversation, but...

    I hope I am not derailing the conversation, but there are two things that want to put out....

    1) Anderson/Stolt put out one of the best albums for Yes (or Yes-Like) Music in years - this is all a...
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    Indeed - wish they would stop it with the...

    Indeed - wish they would stop it with the gimmicks - give me a nice square CD sized box and booklets.... PLEASE... no manhole shaped packaging... no oversized boxes... and specially yes, no unwieldy...
  19. Thread: Haken - Virus

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    I LOOOVED "The Mountain" - it was my first...

    I LOOOVED "The Mountain" - it was my first experience with Haken... Then I listened to the stuff that came after, including "Virus". Not saying it is bad, please understand. IT IS VERY GOOD. It is...
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    Love it Esperanto's Last Tango has a special...

    Love it

    Esperanto's Last Tango has a special spot in my heart - it was my first "obscure" prog album. Middle school years, was already into prog, but only knew the main bands - Yes, Genesis, ELP,...
  21. Well - I think it has to do with the... let's...

    Well - I think it has to do with the... let's call it evolution of one's taste - I have noticed a trend on mine - I seem to be re-trenching into... not sure what to call it... let's call it timeless...
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    1.- First re: compression - there are different...

    1.- First re: compression - there are different kinds - as some people have mentioned - it can be applied at the input to tame the level of instruments; it is also sometimes necessary for mastering...
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    Indeed interesting - but to be fair real life is...

    Indeed interesting - but to be fair real life is stranger and sadder - just google "Supreme" - One of the saddest sights I have seen in my life is the monster line one Saturday morning at Supreme's...
  24. I don't know - I have never been sure what is the...

    I don't know - I have never been sure what is the Tarkus storyline - yes, you can see the tableau - but is that really in the lyrics? I have always thought that one was the product of "hey, we need...
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    Have fallen out out of love with everything...

    Have fallen out out of love with everything Wakeman except

    1) Six Wives
    2) Criminal Record
    3) 1984

    Continue to be fond of those - I believe they are still prog classics

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  26. Ok - interesting question - top of my head, not...

    Ok - interesting question - top of my head, not being thorough...

    1.- Can - I haven't heard one note of any albums of that band.... after all these years... No "Egg Bamyasi" (sp?) or "Tago Mago".....
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    Who owns her music now? Can CBS/Columbia still ...

    Who owns her music now? Can CBS/Columbia still release them? Or maybe let Analogue Productions have a go at them - I do have the Switched-On-Box (which I am very glad I got) and the old vinyl -...
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    1. -To my Classical friends, my love of Jazz,...

    1. -To my Classical friends, my love of Jazz, Prog, Punk/Post Punk/New Wave and Motown is a guilty pleasure
    2.- To my Jazz Friends, my love of Punk/Post Punk/New Wave and Motown is a guilty...
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    I have always assumed (or hope) that will be the...

    I have always assumed (or hope) that will be the case - Prog is not dead - it just smells funny.

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    Was thinking about the same - haven't seen RM,...

    Was thinking about the same - haven't seen RM, but saw BR and immediately noticed how they played fast and loose with the timeline... the "love of my life" thing mixing 80s footage with a 70s...
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    An update from the source might have been useful...

    An update from the source might have been useful - still active? - Thnx!

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    Thnx! - Here's hoping! :D v

    Thnx! - Here's hoping! :D

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    Any indication if this is a growler ? - Would...

    Any indication if this is a growler ? - Would really appreciate if someone knows...

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    I certainly realize - and I believe I touched on...

    I certainly realize - and I believe I touched on it a little bit in my second post - that Chris Franke has been doing other stuff that certainly is no more appealing to me than the late ( and by...
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    Indeed - Big name Flood in there - at least one...

    Indeed - Big name Flood in there - at least one more big name but I fail to remember from what - what I remember is that they are names you would not normally associate with Berlin school...
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    OH yeah, forgot about them - ARC is amazing -...

    OH yeah, forgot about them - ARC is amazing - love the live album "Church" - check the track "Veil" - pure bliss...

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    Love NODE yeah - there are many bands carrying...

    Love NODE yeah - there are many bands carrying the torch for old school Berlin-like electronics.


    I was not aware of Loom - that said, I am of the opinion that TD had two key lineups

    Froese,...
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    Tangerine Dream - An Alternative

    Posted this over at Steve Hoffman's forum - apologies for the repetition, if you are a member of both forums...

    So while enjoying a newly acquired recent pressing of Tangerine Dream's "Poland"...
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    Indeed the solution for me is to give up on...

    Indeed the solution for me is to give up on *fixed* storage - that is, furniture... I store my CDs on "Really Useful Boxes" 50L plastic boxes - they are stack-able and once one is full, just get...
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    Indeed - as per the site, the no dedicated...

    Indeed - as per the site, the no dedicated keyboard player listed - I know Bobby Martin plays keys - but since also no brass or woodwind players are listed he is gonna be busy with that. BUT - I...
  41. Thread: PROG Magazine

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    Well - IMHO definitely is a great thing - when it...

    Well - IMHO definitely is a great thing - when it came out I thought it was a sign of the scene's health. Unfortunately it has struggled recently as all publications have.

    1) OF COURSE not the...
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    It is my opinion that if the tour was simply all...

    It is my opinion that if the tour was simply all those great musicians - and alumni - billed as the "The Bizarre World Of Frank Zappa" and just played the music... kind of a continuation of...
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    Great post and my point exactly - as the whole...

    Great post and my point exactly - as the whole thing veers a little into the political, I was afraid to be that specific - I will dare a little bit more and say that indeed - after all, those...
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    Well - it is exactly the point - the lyric means...

    Well - it is exactly the point - the lyric means that he doesn't want to be like the adults he knows - and older people of the time not getting that...well... you do not want to be like that......
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    Used to absolutely love him (as a solo artist -...

    Used to absolutely love him (as a solo artist - Yes was a different thing) when I was a teenager - guess all that unashamed Prog excess was attractive to a mind still in development - now, I gotta...
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    Agree - one of those albums that depend on your...

    Agree - one of those albums that depend on your mood - haven taken it out in a couple of years, but I remember in one instance thinking "this is fantastic" but in another, I stopped it midway - could...
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    Then I recommend "Cyclone" ! :D v

    Then I recommend "Cyclone" ! :D

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    Just recently got the two Virgin Years boxes from...

    Just recently got the two Virgin Years boxes from Amazon UK - Not sure if they are the same masters as the "Definitive Edition" but they do sound great. Although is weird that Encore was included in...
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    Indeed - of course I am stretching the point a...

    Indeed - of course I am stretching the point a bit - I meant it is "kind of" a remaster compared to other versions that get the master treatment by dedicated master engineer...

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    From what I understand Steve asks his new mixes...

    From what I understand Steve asks his new mixes to be mastered flat - which in a way is kind of a remaster imho... well compared to other versions that do get the treatment...

    That said yeah - all...
  51. Thread: Ulver

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    The best album Depeche Mode never did IMHO v

    The best album Depeche Mode never did IMHO

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    I still want to say it - it looks like it pops...

    I still want to say it - it looks like it pops out every time an artist want to make a living - at that point we become a forum of 13 year olds on $5 a week allowance... :D

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    NO NO AND NO Please do not steal music. If you...

    NO NO AND NO

    Please do not steal music. If you don't like it or your idea of the reasons the artist is doing this you don't have to buy it. If you cannot afford it, again, either don't buy it or...
  54. Of COURSE! We are not only smarter, we are also...

    Of COURSE! We are not only smarter, we are also nicer, better for the environment and WAY WAY better looking. In fact, 4 out of 5 dentists recommend a Prog fan over any other music fans...


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    Oh yes - they are very common - however not sure...

    Oh yes - they are very common - however not sure what the market was for this thing because every copy I have got is not in great condition - and in the hopes of finding a good one I grab every copy...
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    OP here - btw, currently spinning "Seconds Out"...

    OP here - btw, currently spinning "Seconds Out" - Where TF is Steve Hackett???!!! - also inaudible.. :D

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    You just blew my mind - never thought about it -...

    You just blew my mind - never thought about it - good point

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    The 90125/Asia thread just made me remember - say...

    The 90125/Asia thread just made me remember - say what you want about the first two Asia albums - they feature my favourite Steve Howe guitar tone... specially compared to his tone of late - too...
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    True - that seems to be a thing of the past -...

    True - that seems to be a thing of the past - but it was true - learned about it during the mid to late 90s - not sure if everyone noticed my "order of the panther" comment - it was a group of...
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    One more vote for Hold Your Fire Caress Of...

    One more vote for

    Hold Your Fire
    Caress Of Steel
    Born Again
    The Final Cut
    Tormato


    And I will drop a couple more
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