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    WILLIAM D DRAKE & FRIENDS - Tim's Medley What...

    WILLIAM D DRAKE & FRIENDS - Tim's Medley

    What an amazing composer Tim is/was. Shorn of Cardiacs' clamorous arrangements and Tim's scraggly voice, it's easier to hear just how beautiful and...
  2. This is the kind of music they do. The singer...

    This is the kind of music they do. The singer (Michael Trew) writes a lot of the material as more basic songs, then brings it in to the band and they elaborate upon it. But I've heard him in other...
  3. Moon Letters - retro/classic prog from Seattle

    Anybody else here heard this band?

    They played SeaProg last weekend, and its members have played the same festival before as members of other bands. Their music is unabashedly Seventies-oriented...
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    His songs are recognizable - if you hear one you...

    His songs are recognizable - if you hear one you haven't heard before, you know it's Burton. That's a real accomplishment with music that basic.
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    The only reason I can figure is that putting in...

    The only reason I can figure is that putting in Long John B. might have made the story too complicated - you know, too much like real life instead of a tight, streamlined movie.
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    I get the impression that she feels it's better...

    I get the impression that she feels it's better to talk about these issues than not talk about them - to confront the "zombie attitudes" stumbling around in your own head, to publicly say, "This was...
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    But he was a giant of a whole different, and...

    But he was a giant of a whole different, and opposing, aesthetic. Of raw primitivism, of musical eccentricity rooted in drug abuse and borderline sanity, of "authenticity", of the whole Hipster Rock...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWvdO3l4_P8 ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWvdO3l4_P8

    I'm not sure what some of the lyrics in the chorus are. Nobody else seems to know, either - every lyric site has something different.

    "Com to me,...
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    The point of reading it because she is a black...

    The point of reading it because she is a black woman is that she's likely to have a different and unusual take on fantasy (she does), and is unlikely to fall for many or any of these tired cliches: ...
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    The Elton Dean character gets a minute or so of...

    The Elton Dean character gets a minute or so of screen time, one line, and mimes playing sax (not entirely convincingly). Bluesology are shown, mostly working as backup for various American R&B vocal...
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    I found it enjoyable - not anything like a...

    I found it enjoyable - not anything like a realistic biography, but perhaps what Elton's life might have felt like to him. Many people have commented upon the multiple anachronisms - he is shown...
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    Anybody read N. K. Jemisen's The Broken Earth...

    Anybody read N. K. Jemisen's The Broken Earth series?

    I finished it several days ago. Very good, although how much it qualifies as fantasy and how much as SF is an open question: The story...
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    Just take a cue from Dave's nephew, Rick: "Never...

    Just take a cue from Dave's nephew, Rick: "Never gonna give it up......."
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    I'm assuming it's her regular live band: ...

    I'm assuming it's her regular live band:


    Tal Wilkenfeld - (vocals/bass/occasional guitar)
    Tamir Barzilay (drums/vocals)
    Owen Barry (guitar/occasional bass/vocals), and
    either Chris Price...
  15. Thread: Poil - Sus

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    My understanding is that it's not terribly...

    My understanding is that it's not terribly different from French grammatically or even in the roots of its vocabulary, but is pronounced in quite a different manner, and is thus hard for a...
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    Here's a (rewritten) post that I did on YouTube a...

    Here's a (rewritten) post that I did on YouTube a couple of days ago:

    Tim Smith took two things that don't normally go together, kept the best of both, and created something new and wonderful.
    -...
  17. Reminds me somewhat of Septober Energy, by...

    Reminds me somewhat of Septober Energy, by Centipede. Also Ginger Baker's Air Force, minus the blues influence and the attempts at pop tunes.

    The tuba player is amusing - a large man sitting...
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    I think it's maybe used as a sort of "section"...

    I think it's maybe used as a sort of "section" with the guitar, the way the trumpet is with the sax. Or, as a top voice in the horn section, rather than a thing in itself.
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    Fantastic stuff - I've seen them live and they...

    Fantastic stuff - I've seen them live and they kick ass. In its all-star Downtown NYC line-up, it's a bit like a John Zorn project - but it doesn't sound quite like Zorn, and as far as I know he's...
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    It is fascinating stuff, and works much better...

    It is fascinating stuff, and works much better than you'd initially think. Spidermilk (their latest, the entire album is in the 17-note tuning) is thoroughly worthwhile, and verges on great. The key...
  21. Wonderful, just wonderful music. And the moment...

    Wonderful, just wonderful music. And the moment that stumbling, hiccuping, fractured oompah beat kicks in - which could only be marched to by someone or something with five legs - you know that the...
  22. Seconded. If it was within a day's drive...... ...

    Seconded. If it was within a day's drive......
    But I just live too damn far away.
  23. It's, unfortunately, kind of unlikely. There is...

    It's, unfortunately, kind of unlikely. There is certainly an Armenian community in the US, but I think they're smallish in number and pretty scattered. So there's unlikely to be the sort of big...
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    I think his greatest ability may be as a...

    I think his greatest ability may be as a producer/conceptualist, a sort of modern-day Creed Taylor. His playing is solid and soulful, but not revolutionary; that goes for his band, too; and the same...
  25. Is it prog? Is it folk? Is it rock? Is it classical? I'm not sure, but it's good.

    The Naghash Ensemble.

    This is the project of John Hodian, an Armenian-American composer, who works as a jazz pianist, loves rock, and became inspired to do a specifically Armenian project. It...
  26. Thread: Alcatrazz

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    Probably discovered the Mixolydian b6 b9 scale.

    Probably discovered the Mixolydian b6 b9 scale.
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    I agree. After The Epic came out, he was talking...

    I agree. After The Epic came out, he was talking about doing something that sounded like it might have been a big band project, and would have sounded considerably different. But he ended up doing...
  28. Thread: Alcatrazz

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    That explains things. You don't usually think of...

    That explains things. You don't usually think of Americans as being bigger stars in Europe than back home, but some of them are, of course - to the point where being "big in France" is a running joke...
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    I wonder what more it will give than Chris...

    I wonder what more it will give than Chris Cutler's and Georgie Born's very comprehensive liner notes to the box set? Many more pages, sure, but how much more insight? Those notes were excellent,...
  30. Thread: Alcatrazz

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    Okay. But he clearly had a strong enough voice,...

    Okay. But he clearly had a strong enough voice, solid enough musicianship, and big-time enough connections and management to sing with the big boys, and did so over and over. Yet he seems to have...
  31. Thread: Alcatrazz

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    Maybe its that if you've worked with Ritchie, and...

    Maybe its that if you've worked with Ritchie, and not been fired or quit the first day or first week, you have to be pretty good at dealing with an egomaniacal, impossibly difficult bandleader. So...
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    A Ponzi scheme, it sounds more like. One point...

    A Ponzi scheme, it sounds more like. One point about a Ponzi scheme - someone can fall into it almost by accident, without ever intending to run a con game, by desperately trying to keep a failing...
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    Here's an interesting one, which I first heard...

    Here's an interesting one, which I first heard about when I met Denzel Mendoza, a trombonist who plays on the record. American Dreamers by The John Daversa Big Band, which won several Jazz Grammys...
  34. Cool. I kind of wish I'd gone now - but it's such...

    Cool. I kind of wish I'd gone now - but it's such an expense and a general hassle. Sitting on that #$%$#$% plane, crammed into a tiny seat, for hours and hours. And I don't sleep easily, and not at...
  35. I'm not so sure. You're probably right, in that...

    I'm not so sure. You're probably right, in that laptop music and hip-hop have taken the place of the rock garage band - they're so much easier to make, since they don't require any instrumental...
  36. Okay, here's a question: What do you think of a...

    Okay, here's a question: What do you think of a musician or band progressing within their own understanding of music. Maybe their first album sounds like regular indie rock; but their second has a...
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    They can't get over the nonsensical lyrics to...

    They can't get over the nonsensical lyrics to "Montana" or the sped-up vocals in the bridge. And the woman "thinks he's black", which isn't entirely off-base: FZ always had a helluva lot of jazz and...
  38. Bought her albums on BandCamp, burned them to CD,...

    Bought her albums on BandCamp, burned them to CD, and got a chance to do more listening. Fascinating music. Dispelling Differences came with a "bonus track" which does not, apparently, appear until...
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    Orchestre National de Jazz had an interesting...

    Orchestre National de Jazz had an interesting concept. Every three years, the sponsor of the group - which I think was the French Ministry of Culture - hired a new artistic director, and he hired a...
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    Bought the album. It's pretty good, in a...

    Bought the album.

    It's pretty good, in a mainstream way: The playing is excellent, if understated - solid but sensitive drumming, Tal's bass acting mostly as a backdrop for her vocals, guitar...
  41. Thread: echolyn

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    From what I understand, things weren't easy for...

    From what I understand, things weren't easy for Ray during that period - he had health problems, marriage problems, and other troubles, and those came out in his lyrics. Some of the words might have...
  42. Thread: echolyn

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    For me, it's a toss-up between The End Is...

    For me, it's a toss-up between The End Is Beautiful and Mei . Both are fantastic, for different reasons: The End Is Beautiful is their best collection of individual songs, and Mei their best extended...
  43. Comments, including reviews, on Larcher's own...

    Comments, including reviews, on Larcher's own website: http://www.thomaslarcher.com/en/2016/05/15/symphony-no-2-kenotaph-2015-2016/

    A performance, as part of the BBC Proms (audio only):

    ...
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    Intelligence is a potential, sometimes a tool....

    Intelligence is a potential, sometimes a tool. One can use it for multiple purposes, and those purposes don't have to be good ones by every definition.

    In this case, the Big Time Music Business...
  45. Here is yet more Emme Phyzema stuff:...

    Here is yet more Emme Phyzema stuff: https://soundcloud.com/emme-phyzema
  46. Thread: echolyn

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    Mei is, in my opinion, one of the finest extended...

    Mei is, in my opinion, one of the finest extended works in all of prog. I can think of few as good, and none better. Indeed, offhand, I can't think of any that combine that level of quality with that...
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    Splits the difference between prog and...

    Splits the difference between prog and compositional jazz very effectively. Notice some of the reed doubles - Eb contra clarinet, anybody? - that the harpsichord player plays glockenspiel with her...
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    Consider how much Big Time Music Business Pop has...

    Consider how much Big Time Music Business Pop has become entirely a formula, with the rise of Max Martin & Co., "top-liners", "song doctors", beat programmers, remixers, Autotuned vocals and the...
  49. And......a video! In which we find that her...

    And......a video!

    In which we find that her visual/storytelling/filmmaking sense is every bit as creatively bonkers as her music.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fndZYrExjY0

    Not sure...
  50. Not sure if I'd go. The band is top-notch, of...

    Not sure if I'd go. The band is top-notch, of course, but the material just isn't my favorite of Frank's
  51. Just saw them last night. Quite a good live band,...

    Just saw them last night. Quite a good live band, whose music falls about halfway between prog and California pop (Brian Wilson, Burt Bacharach, 60s and 70s movie and TV themes, and the like). The...
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    Here are some. Quite a few, in fact: ...

    Here are some. Quite a few, in fact:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ghVHtgpns

    also, https://onceandfutureband.bandcamp.com/album/once-future-band

    With them, an important part of the...
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    And so you're going to tell me that the overall...

    And so you're going to tell me that the overall structure, and in particular the last minute of that particular song (from 2:48 onward) doesn't remind you in any way at all of "Your Move"?
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    It's something like a song-poem. Actually, all...

    It's something like a song-poem. Actually, all the Botnik tunes are.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_poem

    http://www.songpoemmusic.com/what_is.htm
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    What impresses me about Fripp: He's 72, he's...

    What impresses me about Fripp:

    He's 72, he's leading a band playing some fifty years of music, and he thinks mostly about the future. Not the past, the future. And he always has, even though his...
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    Is this available from anyone, or has it become a...

    Is this available from anyone, or has it become a collector's item at this point?
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    Interesting stuff. Hadn't heard it before. ...

    Interesting stuff. Hadn't heard it before.

    But it bears only an occasional resemblance to most of the work by Henry Cow, Universe Zero, et al. Yes, some of Henry Cow's improvisations seemed to be...
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    Which avant-garde? There were several of them:...

    Which avant-garde? There were several of them: Serialism was reaching its sell-by date, and starting to be seen as a dead end. Minimalism was getting started, but hadn't gotten outside New York and a...
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    Y'know, that "terrible avant-garde music" you...

    Y'know, that "terrible avant-garde music" you carp about didn't exist in 1973 - at least not within prog-rock, though it did within jazz and classical music. And, at least to my ears, there's a...
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    Good track. But it's interesting to contrast...

    Good track.

    But it's interesting to contrast this with more modern attempts.

    Most of the modern stuff touted as having hooks sounds, to me, bland and cheesy. Typically there's some very...
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