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  1. I am glad to live in a world where I can hear...

    I am glad to live in a world where I can hear "Makes Me Happy" and Heaven & Earth and "Activate"/"First Born Leaders"/"WDMCF" etc. and "Opus No. 1 (Hopefulness)"/"Opus No. 2 (Joyfulness)"/"Opus No. 3...
  2. I like that song, but it's only one side of what...

    I like that song, but it's only one side of what Anderson is doing these days. It's not typical of 1000 Hands and we've also had the four instrumental long-form pieces on YouTube.

    Henry
  3. I'm sure Howe and Squire have their own flaws --...

    I'm sure Howe and Squire have their own flaws -- I'm not saying they're the "good guys" in this divorce -- but I can't think of any instances where they've shown this particular character trait.
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  4. Howe has talked about the material Anderson...

    Howe has talked about the material Anderson offered in 2008. Basically, he and the others weren't into it. Anderson has a history of exaggerating downwards the communication he's had from the others,...
  5. Bridges very burnt there, I believe. Henry

    Bridges very burnt there, I believe.

    Henry
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    He didn't fear for his life, but he was upset...

    He didn't fear for his life, but he was upset about the criticism he received for playing in Cuba. But he's announced his retirement from touring a couple of times since then as well. It never sticks...
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    A recent article quotes John Wetton saying that...

    A recent article quotes John Wetton saying that progressive rock “took the ’50s blues influences from the American Deep South and fused it to the classical music of the European composers.” The...
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    The true spirit of the original progressive rock...

    The true spirit of the original progressive rock era involved taking lots of drugs, protesting against the Vietnam War, and thinking women were best as groupies after the show rather than performing...
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    The likes of Yes and Genesis are indeed the...

    The likes of Yes and Genesis are indeed the lowest common denominator and most popular of the style. You say that as if it's an insult. It's not.

    My point is that we all agree they are prog, ergo...
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    Because there are vastly more Genesis and Crimson...

    Because there are vastly more Genesis and Crimson fans than there are Art Zoyd or Henry Cow fans.

    Henry
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    It's a UK magazine, published in the UK, with an...

    It's a UK magazine, published in the UK, with an editorial team in the UK, most easily available in the UK, and thus presumably with a largely UK readership. It doesn't seem terribly surprising that...
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    No, as in composing input, which is more...

    No, as in composing input, which is more exciting. It seems. It's not that clear yet...

    Henry
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    ^ I am very happy to be wrong. (Although I'd...

    ^ I am very happy to be wrong.

    (Although I'd like something a bit more concrete than a report that Rick said something at a show.)

    Henry
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    Lots to love in Howe's solo catalogue. His...

    Lots to love in Howe's solo catalogue. His earliest albums are diverse in style, but in recent years, he's very much believed in each album having a clear theme. Time, the "classical" album, is...
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    So I got a newsletter update from Chlöe Herington...

    So I got a newsletter update from Chlöe Herington today, about her work and her band, VÄLVĒ. I enjoy her work. VÄLVĒ's "Can I Tell You About the Lifecycle of Aphids?" is my kind of jam:...
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    This is clearly not true. It seems you are...

    This is clearly not true. It seems you are fighting old battles.

    Henry
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    You are sore that people don't recognise your...

    You are sore that people don't recognise your broader definition of prog than bands like Genesis and Yes, but you're not arguing that Genesis and Yes are not prog, are you? Ergo, while I acknowledge...
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    I think you're being a bit silly there. There is...

    I think you're being a bit silly there. There is variation in what people mean by "prog", but there is also lots of agreement. Nearly everyone agrees that prog includes Genesis and Yes!



    Well,...
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    I mostly agree, but there are works that...

    I mostly agree, but there are works that weren't/aren't as popular, but which have had lasting impact. Someone like Jeff Buckley, for example. And other acts that were huge, but haven't had the same...
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    I'm in the UK. The best-selling studio albums...

    I'm in the UK. The best-selling studio albums (not compilations) of all time, of every genre, in the UK include Sgt Pepper at #1, Dark Side of the Moon at #4, Tubular Bells at #36 and Phil Collins'...
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    It's not about the term being charged with...

    It's not about the term being charged with negative connotations. It's about the term being irrelevant. It's becoming like talking about dithyramb or renku.

    Henry
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    I apologise if I expressed myself poorly. I don't...

    I apologise if I expressed myself poorly. I don't believe prog is something that happened only in 1974. That was a rhetorical flourish.

    There are people making prog music today. I am surrounded by...
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    That music you describe, "Taking the backbeat...

    That music you describe, "Taking the backbeat style of rhythm that set Rock and Roll apart as a separate musical genre in the 50s and blending it with Classical, Jazz and Folk", did indeed involve...
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    There are times when we should push language to...

    There are times when we should push language to mean what we want, and times where we should accept how language is used. If most people use the term "prog" to mean something, then there are times...
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    I take your point, but I think the comparison...

    I take your point, but I think the comparison falls down because prog is a different level to jazz. You need to compare rock to jazz, or progressive rock to hard bop, or something.

    I agree that...
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    ^ This. There will always be music that blends...

    ^ This.

    There will always be music that blends genres, that is rooted in the popular but experiments and brings in other influences. Sometimes some of it will be commercially successful. But the...
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    I do not expect an ARW return any time soon, if...

    I do not expect an ARW return any time soon, if indeed ever.

    Henry
  28. Well, that obviously wins, because Lego. Thanks,...

    Well, that obviously wins, because Lego. Thanks, all. Lots I need to go away and listen to in this thread.

    Henry
  29. Interesting. Quite disturbing and aggressive, but...

    Interesting. Quite disturbing and aggressive, but it pulls you in. Thanks.

    Henry
  30. ^ Thanks, people. The Caroline Shaw is just...

    ^ Thanks, people.

    The Caroline Shaw is just the sort of thing I meant. I enjoyed the Daugherty (in particular), Higdon and Gandolfi, but they are more orchestral/symphonic than I was looking for....
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    ^ Agreed that Uncut has good CDs and Prog has...

    ^ Agreed that Uncut has good CDs and Prog has poor letters.

    Henry
  32. Genres are more often defined in terms of...

    Genres are more often defined in terms of networks of collaboration and influence than in having a homogeneous musical style. Soft Machine and Caravan are both off-shoots of The Wilde Flowers, even...
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    In my opinion... 1. Yeah, OK, it's not cheap....

    In my opinion...

    1. Yeah, OK, it's not cheap. But it's about the same as similar magazines.
    2. I learn something new from most issues. I don't read everything in the magazine. I skim some...
  34. Experimental new classical - advice wanted

    I've been enjoying a number of contemporary classical pieces lately, but I'm not familiar enough with this oeuvre to know where I should go next, but I'm liking stuff like David Lang (YouTube below),...
  35. Interview enjoyed. Transcription appreciated....

    Interview enjoyed. Transcription appreciated. Many factoids processed.

    Henry
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    I'm enjoying this 'release' more and more: great...

    I'm enjoying this 'release' more and more: great stuff. I've ripped the audio from YouTube to .mp3 so I can listen on the go easily.

    Henry
  37. Thanks, Dan. Good spot. Anderson is putting...

    Thanks, Dan. Good spot.

    Anderson is putting all sorts of stuff on YouTube currently.

    Henry
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    While agreeing with much of what you said, I...

    While agreeing with much of what you said, I question this. There are tapes that weren't located at the time of the Rhino expanded series, or which had more complicated rights issues. There are hints...
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    Yes, agreed. You'll have to tell me more...

    Yes, agreed.



    You'll have to tell me more about those new acts some time: I've not even heard of half of them. However, I fear many, maybe most, are not like you. I think those who buy the...
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    I have been looking forward to reading Anil's...

    I have been looking forward to reading Anil's interview, but have been saving it for the weekend. If Jakszyk et al. are happy with Crimson's approach to new music, I am glad for them.



    I...
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    Fripp is a very eccentric individual with...

    Fripp is a very eccentric individual with unorthodox views and behaviour. He has been a successful band leader artistically, and sometimes commercially. Both of these things can be true.

    DGM is...
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    I'm not certain "see Fripp" is ever an...

    I'm not certain "see Fripp" is ever an appropriate comment for what makes an organisation work. I find it difficult to imagine that Bob Fripp would survive a month in a real job! That he may be a...
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    Indeed. Success is a curse and a gift. I respect...

    Indeed. Success is a curse and a gift. I respect those musicians who have navigated it.

    Henry
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    Have you ever worked with other people? The...

    Have you ever worked with other people? The notion that the only reasons for not wanting to work with someone are "ego issues" is naive, at best.

    Henry
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    What, just Alan White on an otherwise empty...

    What, just Alan White on an otherwise empty stage? I presume someone else is going to be there, so who...?

    I'd go and see a talented Yes tribute band consisting of little known musicians. (Fragile...
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    If a major promoter was going to offer the big...

    If a major promoter was going to offer the big money to achieve that... well, why didn't they do that last year, the 50th? Or the year before? Or the year before that?

    I think promoters know...
  47. Nice cover art. Henry

    Nice cover art.

    Henry
  48. Thanks for posting. Nice interview. Henry

    Thanks for posting. Nice interview.

    Henry
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    I don't think "Jon Davison Plays the Music of...

    I don't think "Jon Davison Plays the Music of Yes" will bring in huge numbers, but it will sell better than "The Jon Davison Project". The gift or the curse, depending on your perspective, of joining...
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    Downes and Howe have talked previously about Asia...

    Downes and Howe have talked previously about Asia and Yes having different styles and they work within those. Downes has talked about this tour and the difference in playing Asia's music, which he...
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    We've had periods before when, for example, Howe...

    We've had periods before when, for example, Howe was writing for Yes and for Asia. No great calamity resulted. Most musicians have multiple projects on the go and have had for decades.



    I think...
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    The demography of the fan base does seem...

    The demography of the fan base does seem significant. As the band members become unavailable, so soon will the fans. There are not enough young Yes fans. (Ditto for other bands.)



    But here I...
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    I've listened a lot to the first one. It's demo-y...

    I've listened a lot to the first one. It's demo-y in many ways, but also a very ambitious piece of music. This is Anderson trying to be Sibelius, with themes and variation. Interesting stuff.

    Henry
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    But only Courtney and Alper from the previous...

    But only Courtney and Alper from the previous line-up, I understand...?

    Henry
  55. I don't feel Talk is bad. "Bad" would imply it...

    I don't feel Talk is bad. "Bad" would imply it managed to evoke some emotion in me, whereas it's all just boringly middle-of-the-road competent. I put it on, it plays, it finishes... barely noticed....
  56. Because they couldn't stand to be in the same...

    Because they couldn't stand to be in the same room as each other by then.

    Henry
  57. YesWest were always good at beginnings of songs:...

    YesWest were always good at beginnings of songs: "Endless Dream", "Changes", "Cinema", "Miracle of Life".

    Henry
  58. I remain unable to understand the delusion some...

    I remain unable to understand the delusion some people have that Talk has any notable artistic features.

    Drama: UK #2 (Silver award), US #18
    Talk: UK #20, US #33 (no sales awards)

    Henry
  59. Union went Gold, but was a terrible album. Talk...

    Union went Gold, but was a terrible album. Talk was a commercial failure and an artistic one. "Long past their prime" seems apt.

    Henry
  60. Nice write-up. An appropriate number of...

    Nice write-up. An appropriate number of references to former US Presidents.

    Henry
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