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    ^ That's why you never use it on me, Frankster....

    ^ That's why you never use it on me, Frankster. Only invisibly and unauditively, to make for a lively privy saliva.
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    ^ Have to say that I usually found them - the...

    ^ Have to say that I usually found them - the folx in the band, I mean - reasonably unloony.

    1) Nucleus
    2) A Time of Day (I know; unusual!)
    3) Until All the Ghosts Are Gone
    4) From Within
    5)...
  3. Early: Web - I Spider Soft Machine - Volume...

    Early:

    Web - I Spider
    Soft Machine - Volume Two
    Colosseum - Valentyne Suite
    Family - A Song for Me

    Full-blown:

    Wigwam - Being
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    ^ WOBBS ARE COMIN'!

    ^ WOBBS ARE COMIN'!
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    Interesting pick. It's where their post-rock...

    Interesting pick. It's where their post-rock influence comes into motion with the drawn-out passages of intense repetition. It really works in "Slow Fire" and the title track, less so (I think) in...
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    :up But to be fair, the only Wobb I don't feel...

    :up

    But to be fair, the only Wobb I don't feel altogether really comfortable with is Hinterland. Some good parts there as well, but it misses both the overt rawness of those early demos rerecorded...
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    You need to hear this. And preferably read what...

    You need to hear this. And preferably read what others have written about it:

    It's got an alto solo by Mats Gustafsson duelled by a period-labelled woman in tandem which has to heard to be...
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    The Thirlwell/Steensland for me, followed by Dai...

    The Thirlwell/Steensland for me, followed by Dai Kaht, Aksak (a dream come true!), Chromb!, Horse Lords and possibly the Elds Mark. Haven't heard the new Opium Cartel or Thumbscrew yet.

    I'd like...
  9. ^ Alright, John. Let's rephrase it; the discourse...

    ^ Alright, John. Let's rephrase it; the discourse between the supremacy of immediate action towards that of 'complete' understanding - as in the discrepancy between practical politics and theoretical...
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    Well, at least they always knew how to use it for...

    Well, at least they always knew how to use it for intended effect.
  11. ^ :lol

    ^ :lol
  12. She applied but was simply considered too softly...

    She applied but was simply considered too softly yellow.

    They tried to recruit Jarboe and Galįs and even wrote to Dagmar, though, but all were found too middleaged and subversively...
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    ^I presume you've got the originals? All of...

    ^I presume you've got the originals?

    All of their output is usually available here:
    https://www.recordheaven.net/index.cfm
  14. I agree. And whether with or without...

    I agree. And whether with or without postmodernist aesthetic, beauty luckily remains relative. :ipa


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkqNCrw02KQ
  15. I know, man - I know. :) But you know, the...

    I know, man - I know. :)

    But you know, the reason why I know was that academia in my own country went through an absurd tax on the same cultural/temporal dynamic, due to a manichaeic dichotomy of...
  16. It's not. Being someone who wasted all too...

    It's not.

    Being someone who wasted all too much of his life on three futile endeavours - women, radical leftist ideals, and "prog" - I can honestly say that superficial surface value and cliché...
  17. But truth be told, there's been a severe and...

    But truth be told, there's been a severe and severely needed debate within the ranks of the NYT itself about the "Duranty mistake"; i.e. not only his employment, his lies, the endurance of his status...
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    Sticky: Helsinki's full of record stores, just like...

    Helsinki's full of record stores, just like Oslo?! Big Dipper have announced the arrival of 2LP-versions of both Fairyport and Being for late July, as they're apparently released on the 17th....
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    ^ Fountains of Light, the single one of theirs...

    ^ Fountains of Light, the single one of theirs I've kept. It's such a masterpiece; I mean, it -must- be since it comes so wholeheartedly deliberately close to Yes, who were the absolute best. So...
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    If someone should start laughing at a "prog"...

    If someone should start laughing at a "prog" clone-band, it's because they simply don't understand the music's extreme and incredible complexity!

    It's not because the very idea of a carefully...
  21. ^ Oh yes, certainly; if you'd mutate the power...

    ^ Oh yes, certainly; if you'd mutate the power precision of Bonham with the wildman antic of Moon and the technical prowess of Williams, you'd be at least halfway there. I can think of perhaps only a...
  22. ^ You oughtta experience Lofthus in action. I...

    ^ You oughtta experience Lofthus in action. I remember hearing that debut Elephant9 and thinking "No way this dude can play like this throughout an entire gig", and yet he certainly does - and more....
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    Such a fabulous mind. And one of a kind. Il...

    Such a fabulous mind.

    And one of a kind.

    Il Sorriso del Grande Tentatore.
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    This is the first time I rate an album 1-star....

    This is the first time I rate an album 1-star. The reason is that it deserves so. This album goes against everything I consider to be music. And I'm not even talking about GOOD music, but music in...
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    Sticky: This is one of perhaps only a handful of Nordic...

    This is one of perhaps only a handful of Nordic progressive rock albums I'd dare namecheck as a true historical masterwork.

    There's practically nothing to be altered here; it's a 100% original,...
  26. Kvazar had two albums too, just like Kvazae....

    Kvazar had two albums too, just like Kvazae. Actually, I believe Kvazae had twenty-two ones. I don't like than back them. But when that Elds Mark album arrives, it will do so in the shape of an old...
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    ^ Here's the thing, and not to digress; my...

    ^ Here's the thing, and not to digress; my (biological) sister and I just lost a preliminary lawsuit on behalf of our insane father against our (wait…) ex-stepsister - for having lured that old...
  28. I concur, but -zum- of dat prog quota (58,34%)...

    I concur, but -zum- of dat prog quota (58,34%) belongs to otha sub genre like space-symph, post-(heavy)meta and gnome-dome. That leaves perhaps only 53,012% to true prog sub bugger.

    re: Jordsjų. I...
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    Triskaidekaphobie, Le Poison Qui Rend Fou, High...

    Triskaidekaphobie, Le Poison Qui Rend Fou, High Infidelity and Barbaro for me. I'm more ambivalent towards the others, I suppose. On the other hand, Fou remains one of my top-25 releases of all time....
  30. Delta Flora and Supersale are both absolutely...

    Delta Flora and Supersale are both absolutely fantastic albums, so I'll be checking out this one with a vengeance.
  31. Have to say that I never really warmed to that...

    Have to say that I never really warmed to that Nordagust. I actually tried to listen again last night after your (Frank's) HU, but my position hasn't changed. It just doesn't seem to take off to...
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    Look. And this is unfathomably relevant. It's sub...

    Look. And this is unfathomably relevant. It's sub genre - WITHOUT the hyphen!!






    Subbadub.
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    I think Guranfoe's studio debut is arguably the...

    I think Guranfoe's studio debut is arguably the single finest thing issued by Apollon Records Prog. And a token of their dedication to the allsorts of the term. You'll hear Man, QMS, Allmans, early...
  34. Oh, come on let's see. There was already an...

    Oh, come on let's see.

    There was already an attempt to formalize another "sub genre" many years back sporting those exact traits - modern (i.e. primarily "non-nostalgic") instrumentation,...
  35. First of all, Jed, solo Wislon is completely...

    First of all, Jed, solo Wislon is completely separate sub genre from the one sub genre that Porcupine Tree already exists in, namely the absolutely inkretipel sub-sub genre. Second, Post Neo-Prog is...
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    There are some solid bands obviously abbreviated...

    There are some solid bands obviously abbreviated from "neo", though - like Discipline, Versus X, Thieves' Kitchen and a whole bunch of Italians and Eastern Europeans.
  37. Well, you know what they say; the truth is often...

    Well, you know what they say; the truth is often both disconcerting and pitiful.
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    I'm not disputing any of this. But truth be told,...

    I'm not disputing any of this. But truth be told, there's a most profound difference between being influenced or encouraged by something - as in the examples you're mentioning - and stuffing a potato...
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    ^ Oh, there were absolutely several highly...

    ^ Oh, there were absolutely several highly entertaining and sometimes also (artistically) fairly interesting candidates among even the most obvious counterfeiters. That Babylon album from 1978 is...
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    I could name perhaps a few hundred just right off...

    I could name perhaps a few hundred just right off my own shelves across from me in my livingroom. A certain percentage of these are even discussed and/or mentioned fairly often here at PE, many of...
  41. I quite like it, although it's not a fave. In a...

    I quite like it, although it's not a fave. In a way I think of it as the 'friendly side of Centipede', and I arguably enjoy it more than I do that mammoth.
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    :up :beer Good for you, man.

    :up :beer

    Good for you, man.
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    ^From what I get, there was only a square short...

    ^From what I get, there was only a square short dozen of 'tron machines exported to the Eastern bloc in all, utilized by the usual suspects (Omega in Hungary, Leb I Sol in Yugoslavia on their debut...
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    ^ Hah! There's both cowbell (listen to the whole...

    ^ Hah! There's both cowbell (listen to the whole thing!) and 'tron - the latter starting at 01:08! They don't use it continuously, though.

    This or Bile Inferno are the places to commence with...
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    It's apparently been out of print for ages now,...

    It's apparently been out of print for ages now, so YT is likely one of the very few places where you'll get the chance to hear this thing - albeit in its entirety. I still think it's one of the best...
  46. Loved it! :up Would love to see Kaiser...

    Loved it! :up



    Would love to see Kaiser with heroes of the obscure old-school like Glenn Phillips, Chadbourne etc.
  47. There was an interview with Bill Laswell in - I...

    There was an interview with Bill Laswell in - I believe - the now forgotten but lamented UK mag Jockey Slut (which constituted a positive anomaly in British music media, in that they also embraced...
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    'Electrollentando' remains one of the most...

    'Electrollentando' remains one of the most psychedelic tracks of all time. Along with 'Grace' from C.J. & the Fish' Electric Music;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwRZHHPaXHo

    Or 'Colors for...
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    OMG, new NEAL MORSE?!! :O

    OMG, new NEAL MORSE?!! :O
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    I developed a love/hate relation with the Wire...

    I developed a love/hate relation with the Wire already from the outset of my reading it (ultimo '94). On the one hand there were adventurous and truly dedicated writers whose literary angles were...
  51. Unfortunately, neither do some apparently...

    Unfortunately, neither do some apparently substantial percentage of folks who claim to adhere to "progressive" in rock yet appear bewildered once they are confronted with a musical actor phenomenon...
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    ^ From my days as a hard-rock fan during the 80s...

    ^ From my days as a hard-rock fan during the 80s I can attest to how the British Metal media - and Kerrang! in particular - were about as reliable and convincing at that as someone like 'Classic...
  53. I also believe he actually "hurt" his hands on...

    I also believe he actually "hurt" his hands on several occasions while living hard and out of carwrecks during his years as a heavy alcoholic and speedfreak. It's a rather well known story with...
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    Now -there's- a prog sub genre I really despise!

    Now -there's- a prog sub genre I really despise!
  55. Thx for posting.

    Thx for posting.
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    ^ If only more Nina Hagen fans would embrace her...

    ^ If only more Nina Hagen fans would embrace her once backing band, Stern Combo Meissen - then the world would surely be a way better place. Or not.
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    ^ In Memory of a Summer Day is indeed a very,...

    ^ In Memory of a Summer Day is indeed a very, very good release. Great to see some love for it. :up
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    ^ :D I thought it a good read to note what...

    ^ :D

    I thought it a good read to note what they wrote on the bandcamp site about the "lack of development in metal since 2015" - as if development is still crucial and a mandatory asset of...
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    Fabulous actor with a most commanding presence....

    Fabulous actor with a most commanding presence. He could do convincing comedy, dramatic, eccentric, menacing and authoritarian. Alien, Chariots of Fire, From Hell, Simon Magus and the extraordinary...
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    I personally think it's really important to note...

    I personally think it's really important to note how BtA - no matter how objectively interesting they'd otherwise might be - aren't truly true prog.
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