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    I think Banks' solo work has also suffered from a...

    I think Banks' solo work has also suffered from a lack of vocal (and therefore, brand) identity. Rutherford at least found distinctive vocalists in Paul's Young and Carrack within the Mechanics.
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    ^The Stafford version is very evidently the model...

    ^The Stafford version is very evidently the model for the Stanshall cover. The arrangement (with that silly 'ooo-ooo' backing vocal) is similar.

    The Elvis Presley version is my favourite-...
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    I'd only seen Fran Kranz in another of Whedon's,...

    I'd only seen Fran Kranz in another of Whedon's, The Cabin In The Woods, which was on TV here last year. Amy Acker was in that too.
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    Yes a big issue (though on a shallow level, I did...

    Yes a big issue (though on a shallow level, I did develop a thing for Adele DeWitt!). I do find it interesting that Whedon apparently saw something of himself in the 'smartest guy in every room'-type...
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    That was one I had in mind when talking about...

    That was one I had in mind when talking about not-so-special episodes. I also noticed that Mal weaponises Inara's 'profession' against her a fair bit.

    I have seen S1-3 of Wynonna Earp early last...
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    Firefly is now twenty years old BTW. I should...

    Firefly is now twenty years old BTW. I should rewatch it and Serenity as I've only seen them once...at least it won't take long!:meh There were a few episodes I didn't think were that special really,...
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    'Congo' I actually prefer in its single/video...

    'Congo' I actually prefer in its single/video edit. That unrelated intro/outro on the album version really doesn't work for me, and again, the outro has one of those stupid fades.

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    I re-watched some of the Katowice show a while...

    I re-watched some of the Katowice show a while ago and the one Collins-era track which worked well was 'Domino', I thought. Wilson seemed to respond to that one more.

    I believe that this tour was...
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    Mostly 60s, really. The obvious Beatles/Beach...

    Mostly 60s, really. The obvious Beatles/Beach Boys/Bacharach-David/Goffin-King etc. A few random favourites which maybe aren't as well known as they should be.


    https://youtu.be/BgnoI4ruPAA
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    ISTR Banks citing 'One Man's Fool' as an example...

    ISTR Banks citing 'One Man's Fool' as an example of a song that Collins might have elevated to greater heights. I've never felt it was that great- it's just sort of alright, really.
  11. ^No chance, as it wasn't recorded for the BBC. ...

    ^No chance, as it wasn't recorded for the BBC.

    I forgot Knebworth 1978, that's another possibility.
  12. A wild guess based on the number of discs: ...

    A wild guess based on the number of discs:

    Discs 1/2- the 1970-2 BBC session recordings. Pretty straight forward, all of these (except the unbroadcast 'Dusk') exist in tape form.

    Disc 3- the...
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    My older CD copy of A Trick Of The Tail is a...

    My older CD copy of A Trick Of The Tail is a plain Virgin/Charisma one- not a 'yellow rays' disc- and sounds great. I prefer almost all of those old Genesis CDs to what followed, although (save for...
  14. BTW there was an old hour-long video from these...

    BTW there was an old hour-long video from these shows called (predictably) Live At The Rainbow which should still be on DVD.
  15. There has been a perfect storm of over-ambitious...

    There has been a perfect storm of over-ambitious venues and, as such, over-ambitious prices! It is odd that they are doing several US shows- where they were a cult act, at best- yet only a few in the...
  16. In their early 2000s reunion shows (not the 70s),...

    In their early 2000s reunion shows (not the 70s), basically everything was in the original key as far as I remember. Now...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rKtvSFLAQ



    Been reading that...
  17. I guess they don't talk about the Alan Douglas...

    I guess they don't talk about the Alan Douglas years.

    I don't remember this being a particularly great show- there was a lot of crowd trouble.

    The slightly later 1969 one at San Diego is a...
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    ^Yes there is an irony, for sure! Some of the RAH...

    ^Yes there is an irony, for sure! Some of the RAH show was like that at the time, Palmer had headphones on for some of it, ISTR.

    It will be a weird thing- in some ways quite literally the same...
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    This isn't holograms or anything like the ABBA...

    This isn't holograms or anything like the ABBA Voyage show. It's Palmer and two others in his band, playing along with video screens of Emerson and Lake. I assume it would be click-track as well or...
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    My memory with the white album is that the deluxe...

    My memory with the white album is that the deluxe set had three discs worth of extra material not on the mass-market set. (Which was the album and then the third disc had the Esher Demos.) That seems...
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    I have finished the three seasons or Veronica...

    I have finished the three seasons or Veronica Mars and the later film of this and I thought it was great! The first two in particular. Not the action/horror show that Buffy was. But the overarching...
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    At this stage I think that ship has sailed, to...

    At this stage I think that ship has sailed, to put it mildly.



    I haven't even heard it but :lol.
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    The exclusion of a Blu-ray of the 5.1 in the big...

    The exclusion of a Blu-ray of the 5.1 in the big set is a dreadful misjudgement and makes it seem like terribly bad value for money. Not that I was buying it anyway. The 2cd looks like the best value...
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    The trailer is all rather low-rent IMHO. And...

    The trailer is all rather low-rent IMHO. And 1500-2000 seaters??



    Well I guess they'll find out!:meh



    Yeah...I don't see that happening. It's blokes playing along to video screens.
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    ^Yes that was the first time the second half of...

    ^Yes that was the first time the second half of that track had ever been in stereo, I think? The original stereo mix just switches to fake stereo around 'Sitting in an English garden...'. I'm...
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    I have issues with the loud-ish mastering, but I...

    I have issues with the loud-ish mastering, but I quite like the Giles Martin stereo remixes I've heard. They also aren't replacing the originals, which was one of the various issues I have with the...
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    I understand that the leaked tracklist is...

    I understand that the leaked tracklist is bona-fide.
  28. I was still just about teenaged when I first...

    I was still just about teenaged when I first heard these, so...

    Steve Hackett- 'Down Street' on Wild Orchids: the first one of his I bought on release. Didn't get this track but over time, I came...
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    ^It's interesting- when I eventually got to hear...

    ^It's interesting- when I eventually got to hear some of the 1976 shows it did seem immediately evident that Bruford wasn't a great fit in Genesis. ('The Cinema Show' is terrific, and made it to...
  30. I don't really listen to any of these bands that...

    I don't really listen to any of these bands that much now. But I think this one has probably held up best for me, and probably because of the things I didn't care for initially like 'Christianopel'...
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    I'm assuming that it didn't make the set because...

    I'm assuming that it didn't make the set because the chorus backing vocals don't come across as well live. It's easily the best song on the album that they didn't bring into the set.
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    Songs I like on CAS, even with the issue of early...

    Songs I like on CAS, even with the issue of early fades etc. The title track, 'Alien Afternoon' (especially the second half), 'There Must Be Other Way', 'The Dividing Line' and 'Uncertain Weather'....
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    It was a somewhat half-hearted relaunch. The...

    It was a somewhat half-hearted relaunch. The album actually has some really good material on it but the arranging feels a little off in places, and then there's those weird early fades on some...
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    I watched that Katowice show on YouTube years ago...

    I watched that Katowice show on YouTube years ago and wasn't particularly impressed. Wilson is a good vocalist and does a fine job on Calling All Stations, but the Collins-era songs simply didn't...
  35. The full recordings of those Then Play On jams...

    The full recordings of those Then Play On jams have been released. A lot of this set is basically session recordings from the later Reprise years, including Spencer's EP of parodies which was...
  36. I think though with The Stones, they didn't...

    I think though with The Stones, they didn't necessarily sound like the records until the late 80s 'comeback tour'. That was the first one with the backing vocalists, digital keyboards etc, making the...
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    The 'reboot' seems to be dead in the water. ...

    The 'reboot' seems to be dead in the water.

    https://tvline.com/2022/08/19/buffy-reboot-cancelled-black-vampire-slayer/

    Though I'm not sure who wanted it in the first place.

    Anyone read that...
  38. Whilst they don't really 'improvise', I think...

    Whilst they don't really 'improvise', I think Genesis tracks can often be better live. They would obviously have 'proper' endings instead of fade-outs and they are usually good ones.

    Really the...
  39. The unfortunate thing here is that the single...

    The unfortunate thing here is that the single 'Man Of The World' will slip through the net. This was their only release on Immediate Records (as opposed to Blue Horizon and Reprise) and is one of the...
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    Sometime In NYC...yeah, I don't like it. I think...

    Sometime In NYC...yeah, I don't like it. I think Yoko's 'Sisters O Sisters' and 'We're All Water' are better than the Lennon tracks on there really. Some of the lyrics like 'Luck Of The Irish' are...
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    ^I think that collection really got the track...

    ^I think that collection really got the track selection right, and also in terms of versions of songs chosen. The general consensus is that they were often better live- although I believe their...
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    John Lennon's Rock 'n' Roll covers album was a...

    John Lennon's Rock 'n' Roll covers album was a saga, to say the least. There's the whole backstory with the infamous Morris Levy, and the initial sessions with Phil Spector devolved into chaos.
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    Unless I'm missing something, I don't see that...

    Unless I'm missing something, I don't see that there would be this same problem with MFSL CDs/SACDs. With those formats, there obviously is a digital element involved, so there's no deception. Unless...
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    I don't personally see this as a 'format war'...

    I don't personally see this as a 'format war' issue, and it shouldn't be really. I prefer CDs for a few reasons- convenience/cost being some- but I like records. Beyond the shocking behaviour of...
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    Ironically, it was a reissue of Thriller with a...

    Ironically, it was a reissue of Thriller with a suspiciously high print run (ten times higher than the norm) which brought the whole house of cards down.

    At least you know where you are with...
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    Even as somebody getting a certain amount of wry...

    Even as somebody getting a certain amount of wry amusement from this saga, e-Mails like this customer service one (from 2020) seem difficult for MoFi. They'd been doing the DSD thing for years by...
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    Indeed. Mobile Fidelity did a very bad thing, but...

    Indeed. Mobile Fidelity did a very bad thing, but these people who completely scorned digital/CDs in favour of these now look a bit silly.
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    Even as a sceptic of these high-priced 'boutique...

    Even as a sceptic of these high-priced 'boutique labels'- as you say, are they really that much better??- and as more of a CD guy, I'm amazed by how many of their titles have had digital involvement....
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    I remember hearing some of the reunion albums via...

    I remember hearing some of the reunion albums via a library (it probably helps being in Wales). I didn't like The Twang Dynasty, too many short and ordinary pub-rock type tracks. But I thought Call...
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    Slow Motion was really the start of a move to a...

    Slow Motion was really the start of a move to a somewhat slicker sound, which continued on The Welsh Connection. But again there are strong tracks on it like 'Hard Way To Die', 'Day And Night' etc....
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    This track was released as a single at the time...

    This track was released as a single at the time so may have gotten some radioplay.

    https://www.45cat.com/record/mca236

    I wouldn't say The Welsh Connection is the best Man album to start with,...
  52. Thread: Lynyrd Skynyrd

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    The first album Pronounced is one of those which...

    The first album Pronounced is one of those which is great pretty much right through, IMHO.

    I have not knowingly heard a note of the post-70s albums.
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    How bizarre that this comes up the week I...

    How bizarre that this comes up the week I rediscovered it. It's still tremendous, but it's quite telling that the epic title track sort of faded in the Rush canon while "The Trees" and "Strangiato"...
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    Yes the debut has some great things on it like...

    Yes the debut has some great things on it like 'Dance In The Smoke' and 'Freefall'.

    Those late 60s Zombies recordings are also worth seeking out if you like that debut. These were recorded after...
  55. Thread: Kayak

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    I only have Royal Bed Bouncer but I like it. TBH...

    I only have Royal Bed Bouncer but I like it. TBH I think it could/should have crossed over internationally (a la Focus/Golden Earring mentioned above) more than it did- it's a very melodic album.
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    I had a look at what is on this best-of and it's...

    I had a look at what is on this best-of and it's not a bad tracklist.

    There was a 5 disc set in the Original Album Classics series which had their first five albums. It's out of print but is worth...
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    I could see how the title tracks of Year Of The...

    I could see how the title tracks of Year Of The Cat and Time Passages, and particularly 'Song On The Radio' sonically would fit within a 'yacht rock' playlist. But otherwise, no. Again, it's like...
  58. Kiln House is let down by Jeremy Spencer's usual...

    Kiln House is let down by Jeremy Spencer's usual nonsense. On that album, I like 'Station Man' and 'Jewel Eyed Judy'. BTW 'Dragonfly' was an A side, its B side 'Purple Dancer' had never received a CD...
  59. There was a Fleetwood Mac episode of the BBC...

    There was a Fleetwood Mac episode of the BBC series Rock Family Trees which spent a fair amount of time on this period. It also delved into the thoroughly bizarre saga of the 'fake Fleetwood Mac'...
  60. ^He had an affair with Fleetwood's wife at the...

    ^He had an affair with Fleetwood's wife at the time.

    Anyway there is great stuff on these albums, particularly Future Games (love the ethereal, somewhat progressive title track on this) and Bare...
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