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    ^Yeah, those didn't come out until years later. ...

    ^Yeah, those didn't come out until years later.

    A few people on Hoffman and Twitter raving about The Keef Hartley Band, whose set has never been heard before. I never thought of them/him as...
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    Has anything other than 'Hush' been played live...

    Has anything other than 'Hush' been played live since the earliest days of Mark II (where 'Wring That Neck' and 'Mandrake Root' were in the set too)? Offhand I can't think.
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    ^Yes I could go along with that. The reason the...

    ^Yes I could go along with that. The reason the WAY tracks sounded good live with Jones is probably because Moon was far from match-fit by then.'Music Must Change' has a pretty negligible...
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    I think that 2cd anthology Catch The Rainbow...

    I think that 2cd anthology Catch The Rainbow pretty much nails their best work. I played it again recently and it's very well compiled, a disc of Dio and another one with the Bonnet/JLT material. A...
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    ^No, nearly ten years later! 1993.

    ^No, nearly ten years later! 1993.
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    ^It's sad watching such a great line-up going...

    ^It's sad watching such a great line-up going down the tubes like that. Blackmore MIA for the first three minutes of the show and then throwing a strop when he is on stage.

    There was one bizarre...
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    ^Halfbreed is a terrific album. Funnily enough...

    ^Halfbreed is a terrific album. Funnily enough I've seen a few people saying how good their set was after all! A major management misstep.
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    ^Some indication of how awful things were in the...

    ^Some indication of how awful things were in the dog days of Mark II can be seen in the footage of that Birmingham NEC show.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2qZJ3BHzjY

    Jaw-dropping.
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    I'm quite fond of 'The Last Farewell' but this...

    I'm quite fond of 'The Last Farewell' but this did make me chuckle!:lol
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    ^It's a really good blues track, it works so well...

    ^It's a really good blues track, it works so well as the last track on the Machine Head reissue they should have had it there in the first place.

    Funny how their hopes for a hit were pinned on the...
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    ^I could imagine...just as Van Halen were said to...

    ^I could imagine...just as Van Halen were said to have wiped the floor with Black Sabbath when those two toured together in 1978.
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    I really don't like the 'water'/'daughter' rhyme...

    I really don't like the 'water'/'daughter' rhyme in 'Water' (especially that 'and I'm sure there ain't one of us who'd say NO! to somebody's daughter' nonsense) but yeah. I wonder why they didn't do...
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    You can, alas, draw a line from the likes of...

    You can, alas, draw a line from the likes of 'Difficult To Cure' (the track) to Yngwie Malmsteen.



    Were they bootlegged, anyone know?
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    I love the segue from 'Babooshka' into 'Delius'...

    I love the segue from 'Babooshka' into 'Delius' on Kate Bush's Never For Ever.

    I forget whether 10cc's 'How Dare You'/'Lazy Ways' is a direct segue (the remaster of this album botched various...
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    They even used to always have this quote from...

    They even used to always have this quote from Richard Wright- 'I've been listening to this amazing new band called Mostly Autumn'- in all the adverts.:meh I remember they had some militant fanboys...
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    It was on the 2004-ish remaster. Also on their...

    It was on the 2004-ish remaster. Also on their singles collections. For me their best B side is 'When A Blind Man Cries'.

    I should play Burn again. I forgot 'What's Goin' On Here' existed until I...
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    Mostly Autumn seemed to appear in most of those...

    Mostly Autumn seemed to appear in most of those DVD documentaries- not that I ever bought any of them, just their names on the back covers! They had a label in common at the time (Classic Rock...
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    'Coronarias Redig' was a non-album B side...I...

    'Coronarias Redig' was a non-album B side...I think the only one from that Coverdale/Hughes era.
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    I like that and 'I Surrender'- Russ Ballard was a...

    I like that and 'I Surrender'- Russ Ballard was a really good writer of this type of song.

    I do enjoy Down To Earth but not so much that Joe Lynn Turner period. The latter had a sort of typical...
  20. From what I've heard, A Curious Feeling- which I...

    From what I've heard, A Curious Feeling- which I love- towers over his other solo output. That album really gets under your skin.

    The Fugitive has the novelty of being entirely sung by him...I...
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    I think Jackson could be an effective singer in...

    I think Jackson could be an effective singer in the right circumstances (he had a certain edge/attitude which was just right for much of The Nice's material). Just not 'Someday' on this album!

    The...
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    I think Townshend went overboard with the synths...

    I think Townshend went overboard with the synths on Who Are You. And musically it feels low on inspiration. Indeed, look at a lyric like 'New Song'; Townshend is basically admitting that he's going...
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    FWIW, the reviews on Steve Hoffman are just as...

    FWIW, the reviews on Steve Hoffman are just as dreadful, for the most part.

    https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/yes-50-live-set-4lp-and-2cd-packages-07-19.832571/page-3
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    My feeling is that big slab of Tommy re-appeared...

    My feeling is that big slab of Tommy re-appeared in the 1975/6 set-lists because of the success of the film.

    After a while, 'However Much I Booze' (played in Texas) was dropped from the set, so...
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    ISTR the most recent Charly release was very well...

    ISTR the most recent Charly release was very well received- the first from the masters, I think. But I haven't got it myself to confirm.



    I don't/won't have any of these mega-sets either. It's...
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    Before my time but I think Caroline's issue of...

    Before my time but I think Caroline's issue of Camembert Electrique was a budget-priced release (a la ELP's Pictures..., Genesis Live...etc., this was popular at the time).



    I bloody hope there...
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    Little from their Woodstock set has ever been...

    Little from their Woodstock set has ever been released. It will be in that big box of every performance from the festival....one hopes it has a separate release.

    Watched a bit of Texas to refresh...
  28. ^Could just be the mastering, really- these new...

    ^Could just be the mastering, really- these new releases have tended to be on the loud side.
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    The orchestra, I'm indifferent, really. It's the...

    The orchestra, I'm indifferent, really. It's the set-list which was impressive. I thought the then-new songs from Magnification didn't disgrace themselves, with the obvious exception of 'Don't Go'.
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    The mastering has sometimes been questionable, to say the least, but I've been impressed with what I've heard of Giles Martin's remixes themselves. The preview suggests that he's done what I'd hoped...
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    Isle Of Wight is good but a bit rough compared...

    Isle Of Wight is good but a bit rough compared with Leeds, IMHO. Some then-new songs were added to the set, none of which were used on Who's Next.

    Houston is a perfectly solid performance, from...
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    I don't think any of the official releases...

    I don't think any of the official releases documented this track being played on this tour. A pity. Indeed I think the only representation of this line-up playing the song live was the doctored Keys...
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    I've never delved into bootlegs of latter-day...

    I've never delved into bootlegs of latter-day Yes. However I do like the official DVDs from the early-mid 00s- Symphonic, Montreux, Tsongas (which grew on me). Quite a strong period for them as a...
  34. I noticed how much had been done to that box on...

    I noticed how much had been done to that box on my very first listen, simply because Gabriel's voice is so different. It's not about being anti- overdubs per se. I don't really care that much about...
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    Never heard much else by them but I also enjoy...

    Never heard much else by them but I also enjoy this album. Love the 'Trouble With A Capital T' riff.
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    Come to think of it I think there's only a few...

    Come to think of it I think there's only a few minutes here and there of Mark III footage, beyond California Jam. And the old BBC video version of that had a better picture source than the 2000s DVD!...
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    I find the edits an act of sacrilege. That...

    I find the edits an act of sacrilege. That explosive intro really served notice of their new direction- talk about a statement of intent. I say 'edits' because the otherwise exemplary compilation...
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    ^The 90s 'Anniversary Edition' remaster certainly...

    ^The 90s 'Anniversary Edition' remaster certainly does (buy it new because early pressings of this had a fault). I think it was only the US/Canada market that had the intro lopped off for some...
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    ^I should say I listened to the 2nd disc of that...

    ^I should say I listened to the 2nd disc of that Rainbow anthology yesterday. Hadn't changed my mind about the JLT-era (why the need for a Foreigner proxy when the real thing was around???), but the...
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    I agree. Was pleasantly surprised by how good...

    I agree. Was pleasantly surprised by how good this one was....maybe because the preview track 'All The Time In The World' was pretty flat. And the album version of 'Hell To Pay' is better than the...
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    The third album had no real 'hits', unlike its...

    The third album had no real 'hits', unlike its two predecessors, so slipped through the cracks. It's probably a more consistent record than those first two but perhaps the highlights were stronger on...
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    ISTR finding 'Difficult To Cure' the track a real...

    ISTR finding 'Difficult To Cure' the track a real cheesefest. Corny old 'rocking the classics' stuff.
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    Three Dog Night never really translated to the...

    Three Dog Night never really translated to the UK, beyond 'Mama Told Me Not To Come'.

    RE; Morse-era Deep Purple. They've had their moments. Purpendicular is a good album, I like the track 'Soon...
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    Miley Cyrus at Woodstock seems baffling to me....

    Miley Cyrus at Woodstock seems baffling to me. But then again we've had Ed Sheeran and Adele at Glastonbury- acts with no counter-culture link at all, purely mainstream. Sad times.
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    John Lawton-era Uriah Heep for me. And this is...

    John Lawton-era Uriah Heep for me. And this is decades after the albums were released! I remain very fond of all three (and much of the still-unreleased fourth!) and think Lawton was/is an...
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    It was his production which made Perfect...

    It was his production which made Perfect Strangers sound like later Rainbow, IMHO...he took exactly the same approach as he'd done with Rainbow. I like Down To Earth with Graham Bonnet, but I'm not a...
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    I'm reminded of this saga from ten years ago in...

    I'm reminded of this saga from ten years ago in the UK.

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/memories-of-woodstock-festival-in-big-cash-241854

    Hardly anyone from the original...
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    I'll have to play it again. You're doubtless...

    I'll have to play it again. You're doubtless right on ...Europe but I don't think it matches Made In Japan, which is one of my favourite live rock albums by anyone. I find Hughes' schtick hard to...
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    I wouldn't disagree. Deep Purple Mark II had a...

    I wouldn't disagree. Deep Purple Mark II had a real intensity which subsequent line-ups did not, IMHO. But Who Do We Think We Are has some things I find dreary, such as 'Place In Line' and 'Our...
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    The Virgin box: ...

    The Virgin box:

    http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=109896&sid=f7239b5406059b6ab2a2490b99cd8764
  51. Definitely the latter. Like I've said before, an...

    Definitely the latter. Like I've said before, an endless game of whack-a-mole. I feel for the moderators.:meh
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    I forgot the other thing worth seeking out if you...

    I forgot the other thing worth seeking out if you like Burn; the DVD of the California Jam performance. Worth having if only for Blackmore's total meltdown towards the end. Tensions were high over...
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    I think Up is my least favourite album by him....

    I think Up is my least favourite album by him. The only other one even in the running is the second album but I enjoy about half of that.

    Apart from two singles 'Steam' ('Sledgehammer' Mark II)...
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    ^An album with a truly terrible reputation....

    ^An album with a truly terrible reputation. There's footage of this show too. Hughes was really getting heavy on the strutting and posing and general showboating in this period. It was reported a few...
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    I find the Mark I albums a little patchy- usually...

    I find the Mark I albums a little patchy- usually thanks to the more overblown, dated covers- but the highpoints are maybe higher than what is on the Mark III/IV albums. 'And The Address', 'Hush',...
  56. ^I fear it's pathological at this point.:meh

    ^I fear it's pathological at this point.:meh
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    Gillan always used to cite Fireball as his...

    Gillan always used to cite Fireball as his favourite. I didn't take to it from the off like In Rock, but I came to enjoy it just as much. The most adventurous record that line-up made, particularly...
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    I don't love 'Sledgehammer' but I do love the...

    I don't love 'Sledgehammer' but I do love the rest of So.
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    No. It's better than Who Do We Think We Are...

    No. It's better than Who Do We Think We Are (which is thoroughly tired sounding, IMHO), and also better than the two which followed. The title track is an all-time classic. 'Mistreated' is an...
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    But they had an album nearly finished. Apparently.

    But they had an album nearly finished. Apparently.
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