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    False equivalence. Jakko is willing to do...

    False equivalence. Jakko is willing to do Adrian's songs, and Ade had no interest in performing Lake and Wetton.
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    (I'm done)

    (I'm done)
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    Okay, we agree and all that. But this is still...

    Okay, we agree and all that. But this is still frustrating/amusing. Why do you keep reiterating things I've acknowledged back at me as if you're telling me something new, and not something that I...
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    I have not criticized Geoff. Please stop twisting...

    I have not criticized Geoff. Please stop twisting my words into something negative.

    My point stands:

    If Geoff is not in a position to explain, that's understandable. But not explaining because...
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    Not to come off like a jerk myself, but...

    Not to come off like a jerk myself, but addressing the weird optics of the situation would involve addressing the weird optics of the situation. I understand that he may be in no position to say...
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    No, I'm sorry, to be clear, he accused me of...

    No, I'm sorry, to be clear, he accused me of calling Geoff a liar for saying "IMO he should acknowledge the optics." Even better. Yeah, very objective.
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    He accused me of libel for saying "I give Downes...

    He accused me of libel for saying "I give Downes the benefit of the doubt for now."
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    His tweets didn't make any mention of the Monkman...

    His tweets didn't make any mention of the Monkman track, so I don't see how he has addressed those optics. Literally the opposite, he has made no mention of the optics.
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    Hey, Henry, remember the other day when I said I...

    Hey, Henry, remember the other day when I said I didn't want to get into a debate with you because I had great respect for you? Since then, in both the Crimson thread and here, you've presented...
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    Do we have an explanation, Henry? Where is that...

    Do we have an explanation, Henry? Where is that champion of clear communication now, that felt people were justified in excoriating Crimson for not being clear enough in explanation?

    We don't have...
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    I'd say there's been a statement, but not an...

    I'd say there's been a statement, but not an explanation. An explanation would explain the situation, Downes' statement has only muddied things further.
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    Interesting. More interesting will be if he...

    Interesting. More interesting will be if he addresses why the piece is in various places on the internet, including a licensed music site, credited to Francis Monkman.
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    From brief research, it seems like this music was...

    From brief research, it seems like this music was used a lot on British television in the 70s and/or 80's, so the official line is going to be it was an intentional homage to a piece of music that...
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    https://youtu.be/56wc8QK_65k?t=1254 The embed...

    https://youtu.be/56wc8QK_65k?t=1254

    The embed isn't acknowledging the start time. Jump to 20:54.
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    It is. This is hysterical. I mean, I guess if...

    It is. This is hysterical. I mean, I guess if Geoff registered and licensed the track legally, they can use the music, but I don't think he can claim to have written it. This is so damn weird.
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    Holy crap this is disappointing. Anyone...

    Holy crap this is disappointing. Anyone suggesting it's just that one melody at the start isn't listening very closely. So effing bizarre. Really curious how this will play out.
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    Totally what I thought of too. As I mentioned...

    Totally what I thought of too. As I mentioned above, the file trading system of recording doesn't allow much for it, but live this song will jam, as the kids say. When the drums and bass have the...
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    Thankfully. Honestly when you compare the attempt...

    Thankfully. Honestly when you compare the attempt to create an album of short prog-pop songs with H&E to what the Asia reunion albums sound like, H&E becomes even more befuddling.
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    Agreed. One of the first things that jumped out...

    Agreed. One of the first things that jumped out at me when the vocals started was that Jon D sounded nothing like Jon A. I mean, in general, I don't think he does anyway - I think people often...
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    One common theme seemed to be that they were...

    One common theme seemed to be that they were making a stand against all exploitation of workers by not allowing this horrible precedent to be set. Others expressed concern for people who needed work...
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    On my third consecutive listen. So happy with...

    On my third consecutive listen. So happy with this so far. Yeah, the opening few notes that sound close to Touch and Go followed by an interval that alludes (unintentionally I'm sure) to Fanfare was...
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    The communication was clear. "Would you like...

    The communication was clear.

    "Would you like to help out the KC merch team on the forthcoming tour by selling tour programmes before the shows?
    The team is looking for assistants for all of the...
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    Yep. The whole affair was a magical head trip...

    Yep. The whole affair was a magical head trip thru the land of zero perspective.
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    You didn't. It wasn't pissy. The same people that...

    You didn't. It wasn't pissy. The same people that made the assumption the original request was for hours of hard labor for exploitative compensation are the ones declaring the clarification as pissy....
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    The original request clearly stated "help selling...

    The original request clearly stated "help selling programmes before the show" and "would need to arrive a little before doors open." Am I genius for inferring "an hour before showtime to sell...
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    It's been hard to get direct answers from...

    It's been hard to get direct answers from detractors on Facebook, so I'll attempt a dialog here. Henry, in your opinion what is the alternative to "being so cheap?" They have their own merch team,...
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    Which is pretty much The Letters with different...

    Which is pretty much The Letters with different lyrics, and man, I have always found the lyrics to The Letters so, so cringey. So agreed; I've always wanted the current lineup to play Drop In.
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    No, he's 100% correct. You were wrong to drop...

    No, he's 100% correct. You were wrong to drop someone else's writing into your post without as much as putting quotation marks around the quote, let alone acknowledging that you were quoting someone...
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    Single version of a track from my recent EP, in...

    Single version of a track from my recent EP, in case you have less than 5 minutes to spare.

    https://casuallyabandoned.bandcamp.com/track/avoidance-distraction-from-what-is
  30. Peter Green? Didn't he pretty much leave FMac...

    Peter Green? Didn't he pretty much leave FMac because he didn't want to make money off of music anymore? (among other issues of course).
  31. Hello!

    Hello!
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    Really? To me it sounds like a warning song, to...

    Really? To me it sounds like a warning song, to curtail all those children falling down wells.

    Is "Leave Well Alone" a British variant on "Leave Well Enough Alone?" Because it reads oddly to me.
    ...
  33. I'm listening to Owner of a Lonely Heart from...

    I'm listening to Owner of a Lonely Heart from that album right and can't help but think this is not what Steve Howe wanted to be doing with his day.
  34. Decloaking after a long time away to say that the...

    Decloaking after a long time away to say that the existence of both Symphonic Music of Yes and Yes: Symphonic Live has never ever confused me. I absolutely always remember which one is which.
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    If there has to be an opening act, at least it's...

    If there has to be an opening act, at least it's Keneally.
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    Hey, it's been ages since I posted anything new...

    Hey, it's been ages since I posted anything new here. If anyone is still interested in what I'm up to, I just released a 3 track EP of ambient post-rock with guitar sounds backed by a bassist and...
  37. This one kills me. When I think of their...

    This one kills me. When I think of their tremendous body of work with H, all the success they've had, the innovation, the relationship they've built with their fan base... how everything they've done...
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    I realize this isn't going to be a popular...

    I realize this isn't going to be a popular opinion in these parts, but having given this a listen and a half since last night, this might be the best live album they've dropped since Lyon. Tempos are...
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    Anne's demos are great. I feel like DBA stuff is...

    Anne's demos are great. I feel like DBA stuff is another level of sounds that I'm not ready for yet.
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    Of course they could. Of course the musicians...

    Of course they could. Of course the musicians that were in PT 15 years ago could get together and make music. And if that was all people were asking for, that would be a totally relevant.

    Do you...
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    Totally. The line between "I don't like his new...

    Totally. The line between "I don't like his new music" and "I don't understand why he doesn't just make music like his old music like we want" is wide, and defined by the sense of entitlement the...
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    Because to the majority of people, people who...

    Because to the majority of people, people who don't make art, art just happens for them. The idea that artists change and their art changes with them is beyond most people's capacity to understand....
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    Thanks! Just came by this thread for the first...

    Thanks! Just came by this thread for the first time in a while to post a little thing from instagram last night, this was a nice surprise. :)

    Pedalboard has undergone more transformation, but I...
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    The thing that always confuses me by the usual...

    The thing that always confuses me by the usual reaction is the "pop music" and "mainstream" comments.

    Maybe I'm just not in touch with the pop music charts anymore. I haven't listened to much BTC...
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    Keys under the stage. ...

    Keys under the stage.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLkvSg9YHxQ&ab_channel=JoeLuca
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    Yes - Leave It - Live - ??

    Anybody know the history of Leave It live?

    I don't recall how it was performed when I saw them on the 90125 tour, but based largely on the 90125 film and the few recordings from that era I've...
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    Haven't seen an official announcement of this yet, but here.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GVCMWH4/?fbclid=IwAR2aBze5ZhFe6oP3X_GHN6WnfgstXAMv_M59OAOvW9S4ukt-m4-2mtgfMU4#immersive-view_1598901265112...
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    Had a Squier strat neck of dubious quality laying...

    Had a Squier strat neck of dubious quality laying around (bought it off reveb for $40 because it was $40), so I decided to make a fretless guitar, because I've never had or played one and it seemed...
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    (Andy's effects settings in this video - filter...

    (Andy's effects settings in this video - filter with the rate at noon and the depth at 9 o'clock - are what I use mostly. They give the drones such a lovely sound (which you can hear in the video of...
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    It's a drone machine, but one I couldn't live...

    It's a drone machine, but one I couldn't live without. Between the superego+ and pog2, I use my volume pedal very little anymore. Aside from drones, the main selling point of the SE+ is swells. Set...
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    Thanks. Trying to get motivated to start...

    Thanks. Trying to get motivated to start composing again, creating compelling grooves to drone over and create something new sounding.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upuZA3yvdmY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upuZA3yvdmY
  54. So what new Yes related music is out there? I'm...

    So what new Yes related music is out there? I'm thinking of just picking it all up, throwing it into a playlist, hitting shuffle, and pretending it's a new Yes album.

    Steve Howe's Love Is
    Rick...
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    Mixed down a longer version of that play on The...

    Mixed down a longer version of that play on The Man Who Waved at Trains.

    https://soundcloud.com/casuallyabandoned/waving-at-trains
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    He's apparently not on board with the reissue and...

    He's apparently not on board with the reissue and just playing it on a bass bass now. :)

    I love that the core of the Softs lineup is still together, although this is from a gig when Marshall was...
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    Right. I always forget the Bass VI release a few...

    Right. I always forget the Bass VI release a few years ago was the return of the Bass VI from olden days, and not a new thing. :)
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    What is Babbington Playing?

    Is that a baritone Jazzmaster, strung/tuned down low?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpaMTgBCx0
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    More ambiance over grooves, this time lifting the...

    More ambiance over grooves, this time lifting the bass line from The Man Who Waved at Trains.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CDVG9bRpGBa
  60. I will add to the chorus, Feast of Consequences...

    I will add to the chorus, Feast of Consequences was excellent. If you're planning on getting this one, pick up Feast now to hold you over until this drops.
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