Top 1970s Italian Prog (excluding Le Orme, PFM, and Banco

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Originally Posted by proggosaurus

you know these already?

Ske - Fraguglie (1000 Autunni/2011)

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indeed! there were many 'post 70s' albums from Italy I had to leave off my list and the Ske is one of the best!

Goblin are the only band to match the other 3 so far. As great as miracoli, rosenbach, alphataurus and maxophone are, they are only one album bands

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Originally Posted by PROGMONSTER

Goblin are the only band to match the other 3 so far. As great as miracoli, rosenbach, alphataurus and maxophone are, they are only one album bands

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according to what I read from your post, wouldn't you have forgotten The New Trolls and their offshoots in your reasoning??

If we have to count by adding every band's output to quantify or list by magnitude of achievement, than my clear Italian winner is Perigeo

their first four are awesome (I could've listed all our in my previous post), not even counting the posthumous double live

I've yet to hear their post 75 album and the two 80's thingies, btw

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Originally Posted by Trane

according to what I read from your post, wouldn't you have forgotten The New Trolls and their offshoots in your reasoning??

If we have to count by adding every band's output to quantify or list by magnitude of achievement, than my clear Italian winner is Perigeo

their first four are awesome (I could've listed all our in my previous post), not even counting the posthumous double live

I've yet to hear their post 75 album and the two 80's thingies, btw

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You Jazzhead you.

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Originally Posted by moecurlythanu

You Jazzhead you.

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I plead guilty

Can I go free, your honour??

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Originally Posted by mozo-pg

Excluding Le Orme, Banco, and PFM, who are the main Italian bands from the 1970s that match the "Big Three" or surpass them. A few that come to mind immediately are Celeste, Latte E. Meile, New Trolls, Semiramis, Alphataurus, Arti E Mestieri, Picchio Dal Pozzo. I think there are dozens of Italian bands that are as good or better then the "Big Three".

What are you top bands and why do you think they are equal or better compared to Le Orme, PFM, or Banco?

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For me, there's only one band who equals or surpasses your Italian "big three," and that's Area. In fact if I did a big three, it would be Area, Banco, and PFM. I like the four Le Orme albums from Collage to Contrappunti a lot, but not as much as the other three bands, whose key albums I think are in a different league.

After those, for my tastes, I don't think there are any that equal or surpass those four bands for quality, and quantity of quality output. Here are those that I think come closest:

Apoteosi
Arti + Mestieri
Il Balletto di Bronzo
Il Baricentro
Bella Band
Etna
Festa Mobile
Goblin (really just for Profundo Rosso and Roller)
Maxophone
Metamorfosi
Napoli Centrale
Picchio Dal Pozzo
L Uovo Di Colombo

Bill

Besides Area, Stormy Six....other albums that are personal gems for me are:

Osanna - Palepoli
Alusa Falux - Intorno...
Cervello - Melos
Pichio Dal Pozzo - s/t and Abiamo...
Locanda Della Fate - Forse....

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Originally Posted by chalkpie

Alusa Falux - Intorno...

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Oops, missed that one in my list. That's a very good one.

Bill

Area is my top italian band, but I cant see anybody mentioning Yugen ???

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

After those, for my tastes, I don't think there are any that equal or surpass those four bands for quality, and quantity of quality output. Here are those that I think come closest:

Apoteosi
Arti + Mestieri
Il Balletto di Bronzo
Il Baricentro
Bella Band
Etna
Festa Mobile
Goblin (really just for Profundo Rosso and Roller)
Maxophone
Metamorfosi
Napoli Centrale
Picchio Dal Pozzo
L Uovo Di Colombo

Bill

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The bold are the CDs I own. What albums would you recommend from the others - and which are the best?

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Originally Posted by chalkpie

Besides Area, Stormy Six....other albums that are personal gems for me are:

Osanna - Palepoli
Alusa Falux - Intorno...
Cervello - Melos
Pichio Dal Pozzo - s/t and Abiamo...
Locanda Della Fate - Forse....

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I have these ones - I like the raspy vocals on Alusa Falux - very emotive.

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Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate

Area is my top italian band, but I cant see anybody mentioning Yugen ???

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Not really surprising in a thread about the 70s, ain't it.

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Originally Posted by mozo-pg

The bold are the CDs I own. What albums would you recommend from the others - and which are the best?

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Not so difficult, Il Baricentro had two albums and Napoli Centrale had three (in the 70s), all others had only one.
Festa Mobile and L Uovo Di Colombo are very good Prog albums. The other bands are more proggy Jazz Rock Fusion (all of them very good)

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Originally Posted by TheH

Not so difficult, Il Baricentro had two albums and Napoli Centrale had three (in the 70s), all others had only one.
Festa Mobile and L Uovo Di Colombo are very good Prog albums. The other bands are more proggy Jazz Rock Fusion (all of them very good)

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Ok - like Jazz but I'll explore Festa Mobile and L Uovo Di Colombo first.

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Originally Posted by TheH

Not so difficult, Il Baricentro had two albums and Napoli Centrale had three (in the 70s), all others had only one.
Festa Mobile and L Uovo Di Colombo are very good Prog albums. The other bands are more proggy Jazz Rock Fusion (all of them very good)

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Yeah, that's about what I'd say. I particularly like the Etna, which is fusiony but also pretty "Proggy" to my ears as well. Bella Band is definitely more jazz rock. I'd also recommend starting with the first Napoli Centrale album, which is probably my favorite of their three 70s albums.

Bill

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

I'd also recommend starting with the first Napoli Centrale album, which is probably my favorite of their three 70s albums.

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Yes the first Napoli Centrale is the best - but all are rather jazzy imo (which is not bad at all)

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Originally Posted by TheH

Not really surprising in a thread about the 70s, ain't it.

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Forgot that :oops - saw Ske mentioned and jumped.

Not yet mentioned, but worth mentioning: Il Paese Dei Balocchi

I was asked to submit my Top 30 for this site a few years back. There are two PFMs, one Banco and one Orme, but other than that it fits the premise of this thread:

http://www.italyprog70s.com/visitorstop30albums.html

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Originally Posted by JeffCarney

I was asked to submit my Top 30 for this site a few years back. There are two PFMs, one Banco and one Orme, but other than that it fits the premise of this thread:

http://www.italyprog70s.com/visitorstop30albums.html

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Nice list, although someone seems to have made a mistake putting Ys at 29. That should have been 2.9, right? ;)

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Originally Posted by PROGMONSTER

Goblin are the only band to match the other 3 so far.

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Er, no they're not.

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Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate

Area is my top italian band, but I cant see anybody mentioning Yugen ???

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are they 70s?

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Originally Posted by Trane

according to what I read from your post, wouldn't you have forgotten The New Trolls and their offshoots in your reasoning??

If we have to count by adding every band's output to quantify or list by magnitude of achievement, than my clear Italian winner is Perigeo

their first four are awesome (I could've listed all our in my previous post), not even counting the posthumous double live

I've yet to hear their post 75 album and the two 80's thingies, btw

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I haven't heard much of them yet. Planning to though

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Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER

are they 70s?

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no, their first album was 2008. Udi Koorman was sound engineer for that one and Iridium too I believe. I only referenced those other albums as recommendations to Jay Dee in his quest for Canterbury style or influenced. I see em that way but others may not. I love the Mooggg album. I keep waiting for Starsky and Hutch to kick my door in. aside from that, I'll still stick with the three "70's" I picked.

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Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth

Nice list, although someone seems to have made a mistake putting Ys at 29. That should have been 2.9, right? ;)

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Yeah, it was just arranged alphabetically by album title. I wasn't asked to make it in any kind order.

Ys would make my Top 5, easy. In fact, my Top 5 would probably be as follows:

5. New Trolls - Searching For a Land (for the 1st LP of the double which is SO strong. Too bad the 2nd isn't 1/10th as good)
4. Reale Accademia Di Musica - S/T
3. Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys
2. PFM - Chocolate Kings
1. Adriano Monteduro & Reale Accademia Di Musica - S/T