Great choice!Quote:
Originally Posted by ronmac
Andy Robinson as Scorpio.
No motive, just pure evil!
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Great choice!Quote:
Originally Posted by ronmac
Andy Robinson as Scorpio.
No motive, just pure evil!
Post #61 above...Quote:
Originally Posted by mozo-pg
James Cromwell as Captain Dudley Smith in LA Confidential was pretty despicable.
Willing to corrupt the police department, send out his police henchman to torture suspects, kill anyone who gets in his way (including fellow officers).
Not to mention, it is the best performance in a movie loaded with great performances.
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I forgot about that one - yes, truly an evil mofo. That "have you a valediction" scene was great. Then again, the movie was packed with great scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by simon moon
Tim Curry in Legend was pretty damn repugnant.
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Dolores Umbridge.
^^^ Oooh, good one, though she's nowhere near as repugnant in the movies as in the book. (A close friend of mine - dead now, alas! - looked almost exactly like the pictures in the [US] books.)
For truly repugnant, there's the creature in the low-budget Monsturd.
Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Jack did get back at her, though.
A less obvious one perhaps, but the character of the train company COO, Yon Suk (played by Korean actor Eui Sung Kim) in Train To Busan.
Anyone who has seen the movie will understand...never have you wanted to see a character get his just desserts before the movie ends so badly.
And like a lot of the best 'villains', you can sometimes understand and sympathise with the reasons for some of his actions.
Great movie by the way, highly recommended.
I have been going back and watching the HBO series OZ from back in the 90's. The character of Vernon Shillinger (played by J.K. Simmons) is a pretty nasty villain.
His victory was short lived though. She survived while he got lobotomized.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronmac
Doh!!!! Spoiler Alert.Quote:
Originally Posted by progmatist
I didn't give the complete ending........what comes after the lobotomy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozo-pg
Is it still necessary to give spoiler alerts for movies made 45 years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by mozo-pg
It may have already been mentioned - in fact it must have - but Robert DeNiro as Max Cady in "Cape Fear" is right up there. The reason I say this must have been mentioned before is due to Robert Mitchum's performance in "Night of the Hunter." (Wikipedia's entry says the original is also called Cape Fear, but it IS "Night of the Hunter," right?). Anyway, I've actually never really seen all of "Night of the Hunter," but my mom loved it and was always telling me to watch it.
I fucking LOVE the part in "Cape Fear" when DeNiro gets out of prison and goes to the movie theater, and he laughs insanely while smoking that huge cigar, blowing smoke in the air. You get the sense that the movie he's watching isn't anywhere near funny enough to elicit his laughter, but he's just celebrating his release from prison, and laughing at a movie and smoking a huge cigar is something he longed to do. Plus, he's thinking about all the crazy shit he's ABOUT to do. Just great.
I actually rewatched "Cape Fear" recently, and in a certain sense it didn't hold up, because I think I've become a bit jaded, and the climax of the movie wasn't quite as extreme as I remembered it to be. But the tension as Nick Nolte and Jessica Lange are trying to prepare for Cady to show up at their house, is still there and effective.
Cady definitely ranks right up there. That film got mixed reviews, but I thought DeNiro was amazing in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKL2000
That "speaking in tongues" bit as the bible quoting Cady is one of the most bizarre and frightening things I have ever witnessed in a movie. Just incredibly effective and all consuming as the pinnacle of fear and loathing.
“With the power vested in me by the kingdom of God, I sentence you to the Ninth Circle of Hell! Now you will learn about loss! Loss of freedom! Loss of humanity! Now you and I will truly be the same.”
I guess I should re-watch Cape Fear. Don't know why but DeNiro didn't strike me as awful as he should have been, except the creepy scene with Lewis.
Now I remember why I searched out this thread. Found a good villain in Alice in Batwoman.
Crikey, I'm bad at this villain game but she's good. The joker and such are too obvious to fit with the theme of the thread.
I always consider the first scene with Hannibal Lector in Silence to be one of the great introductions of an evil character, especially after Clarice Starling has to pass all the other psychopaths, all of whom act like psychopaths. And then there is Lector, seemingly quiet and centered and focused. I also think Captain Vidal is a great and evil villain as others have noted in Pan's Labyrinth. Anton Chigurh is another.
But my vote goes to Asami Yamazaki, in Audition. If you've seen it, you know why. If you have not, be warned.
Allow me one pedantic moment. The others were likely sociopaths, who tend to run a bit hot and impulsive. A true psychopath (and they're far less common) is like Lector. The engine runs cool and calm with absolute no regard for anyone or anything. Those are the ones that are the most dangerous. I saw a psychiatrist on TV several years ago that said until the mid-80s, he didn't think a true psychopath existed. And then he interviewed Ted Bundy.Quote:
I always consider the first scene with Hannibal Lector in Silence to be one of the great introductions of an evil character, especially after Clarice Starling has to pass all the other psychopaths, all of whom act like psychopaths
Have you ever seen the series “Mindhunter” on Netflix? It is about two guys who pretty much developed psychological profiling of psychopaths / sociopaths in the 1970’s. It is an exceptionally good show, which uses real criminals and is based on a book one of the guys wrote. It is well worth checking out if you are interested in that kind of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerjo
Great show and pretty accurate regarding real serial cases ; Kemper, Berkowitz, Wayne Williams etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSly
The screenplay from John E. Douglas' book Mindhunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit (1995) became the show.
Great book btw
There is but one true difference between a psychopath and a sociopath: the psychopath doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. The sociopath knows, but doesn't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerjo
Ironically, only a psychopath can meet the legal definition of "insane" in a criminal proceeding. Psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder rarely do. Yet, a psychopath will gain zero benefit from the treatment prescribed by law, after being found not guilty by reason of insanity.
I have the book loaded into my Kindle, but have not had the chance to read it yet. Too bad it looks like there will not be a 3rd season. I thought the show took a while to grow on me, but ended up really enjoying it, especially the 2nd season.Quote:
Originally Posted by nosebone
In an interview I read with a crime writer or reporter, can't remember which, he said that this concept of urbane cultured serial killers like Lector was a load of rubbish; I think he pointed to Jeffrey Dahmer as a more typical example, someone with absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerjo