Mel Collins ruined Genesis

[GuitarGeek]

Sorry, I was reading another thread where someone referred to Genesis and how you-know-who ruined the band, and referred to him simply as "Collins". And for some reason, my mind defaulted to Mel Collins, rather than Mr. Miami Vice Guest Star.

[rcarlberg]

Mel Collins made KC. ;)

[Obscured]

Mel Collins made KC. ;)
And Camel-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsBWLGdDHkw

[LeFrog]

Contender for best thread title of the year! :lol

[Zeuhlmate]

Didn't Peter Hammill ruin Genesis too (or was it Steve Howe) ? :D

[rcarlberg]

Didn't Peter Hammill ruin Genesis too (or was it Steve Howe) ? :DEve ruined Genesis. :)

[boilk]

I ruined Genesis! I admit it!! IT WAS ME!! I can't carry this burden any more.

Whew, that feels much better.

neil

[JKL2000]

I ruined Genesis! And so did my wife!

[firth5th]

I'd like to see a band made up of:

Peter banks
Steve Howe
Peter hammill
Mel Collins

[BarryLI]

I'd like to see a band made up of:

Peter banks
Steve Howe
Peter hammill
Mel Collins

Little late for that, mate.

[JKL2000]

Barnabas Collins ruined Genesis!

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061021030132/darkshadows/images/1/11/Barnabas_Collins_2.JPG

And he looks a bit like Gabriel!

[Obscured]

'twas Joan...
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01414/joan-collins_1414165c.jpg
...and she looks a bit like Gabriel!
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/photos/2009/genesis_live_5_jk.jpg

[GuitarGeek]

Didn't Peter Hammill ruin Genesis too (or was it Steve Howe) ? :D

It was Peter Hammill, Steve Howe and Lee Harvey Oswald, working in concert on a joint covert mission at the behest of the Mafia, Fidel Castro, Nikita Khrushchev, Nicolae Ceaușescu, Enver Hoxha, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Chairman Mao, Idi Amin, Ferdinand Marcos, Elvis Presley, Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Il, General Tito, Emperor Hirohito, the Shah of Iran Ernst Stavro Blofeld, Emilio Largo, Auric Goldfinger, The Master, Davros, Khan Singh, Kang, Commander Kor, Captain Koloth, Arne Darvin, Count Baltar, Mikkos Cassadine and Dirty Den Watts.

For their roles in the mission, Hammill and Howe were each given a Mercedes 600.

[JKL2000]

I really wish Peter hadn't shaved that Death Star trench into his hair. There was no need for it, and it looked ugly.

[N_Singh]

"Mell'!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kiss my grits!!!!!!!!!!!"

[GuitarGeek]

I really wish Peter hadn't shaved that Death Star trench into his hair. There was no need for it, and it looked ugly.

You mean the reverse mohawk? I seem to recall someone telling me that had to do with his interest in mime and costumes and such. I gather that was a traditional maneuver done by theater performers to aid in the use of masks and such.

[trurl]

Mel Collins ruined everything.

[zravkapt]

Mel Collins ruined Bad Company...and Uriah Heep...and The Rolling Stones...and the Alan Parsons Project...and Tears For Fears.

Just an awful person all around.

[SuperTed]

Mel Collins? What an asshole!

(who is he, again...?)

[Rufus]

Mel Collins? What an asshole!

(who is he, again...?)

He's got an evil twin brother called Phil whi was always jealous of his talent!

[rcarlberg]

I blame their mother Joan.

[Staun]

My dog pissed on their lawn once. That's what did it.

[rcarlberg]

Me, I'm just a lawnmower.

[bill g]

Bad company ruined Boz Burrell.

[mozo-pg]

Mel Collins is my uncle and we resent the accusation! Just because he went a little pop, for crying out loud.

[Zeuhlmate]

Yoko Ono is behind Mel Collins !

[Rufus]

Flak Jacket Required

[JKL2000]

Mel Collins is my uncle and we resent the accusation! Just because he went a little pop, for crying out loud.

I had a bastard child with Mel Collins' sister.

[rcarlberg]

Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.

[flowerking]

You've got it all wrong. Mel Collins ruined ELP. All those out of place sax solos in Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery. What were they thinking???

[syncopatico]

You've got it all wrong. Mel Collins ruined ELP. All those out of place sax solos in Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery. What were they thinking???

Nah, that wasn't Mel Collins-it was Dick Parry. ;)

[ThomasKDye]

Kirk's son ruined Genesis with his damn protomatter.

[Progatron]

Mel Collins pissed on David Jaxon's sax collection and then smoked a cigarette RIGHT in front of the No-Smoking sign. He's a bad seed.

[trurl]

Ironically, I just found out today that 21st Century Schizoid Band has a concert video streaming on Amazon.

[Soc Prof]

My daughter ruined Genesis when she was just a baby. She lent them her plastic shape toys. They were never the same again.

[JIF]

Oh goody!! A thread to take the piss out of Rufus. Did he ever think that maybe Genesis, Tony Banks, and Mike Rutherford ruined Phil Collins? Phil Collins has said in interviews that Tony is a big presence. "You try being in a band with Tony Banks and telling him what to do".

[Obscured]

(From wiki) Selected discography-
The Alan Parsons Project: Eye in the Sky; Ammonia Avenue
Joan Armatrading: Show Some Emotion; Walk Under Ladders; The Key
Bad Company: Bad Company; Burnin' Sky; Rough Diamonds
Barón Rojo: Volumen brutal
Bucks Fizz: Bucks Fizz; Writing on the Wall
Eric Burdon: Darkness Darkness
David Byron: On the Rocks
Camel: Rain Dances; A Live Record; Breathless; I Can See Your House from Here; Nude; Stationary Traveller; Pressure Points
Jim Capaldi: The Sweet Smell of... Success; Let the Thunder Cry; Fierce Heart; Some Come Running
Caravan: Back to Front
Clannad: Macalla; Sirius; Past Present; Anam; Lore
Eric Clapton: Slowhand
Joe Cocker: Cocker
Terence Trent D'arby: Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D'Arby
Dire Straits: Twisting by the Pool [EP]; Alchemy; Money for Nothing
Bryan Ferry: Let's Stick Together; In Your Mind; Taxi
Humble Pie: Thunderbox; Street Rats
King Crimson: In the Wake of Poseidon; Lizard; Islands; Earthbound; Red; A Scarcity of Miracles
Alexis Korner: Accidentally Born in New Orleans; Live on Tour in Germany ; Alexis Korner; Mr. Blues; The Party Album; And Friends
Alvin Lee: Road to Freedom; In Flight; Pump Iron; Pure Blues
Phil Lynott: The Philip Lynott Album
Phil Manzanera/801: Listen Now; K Scope; Guitarissimo (1975–1982)
Meat Loaf: Blind Before I Stop
Miyuki Nakajima: Yoru wo Yuke
No-Man: Flowermouth; Wild Opera
Robert Palmer: Pressure Drop
Cozy Powell: Tilt
Gerry Rafferty: Night Owl; Snakes and Ladders; Sleepwalking; North & South; On A Wing And A Prayer; Over My Head
Cliff Richard: 31 February Street; Now You See Me...Now You Don't
Rolling Stones: Love You Live; Some Girls
Pete Sinfield: Still
Small Faces: Playmates
Phil Thornalley: Swamp
Chris Squire: Fish Out of Water
Stray Cats: Rant N' Rave with the Stray Cats
David Sylvian: Gone to Earth
Tears for Fears: The Hurting; Songs from the Big Chair
Pete Townshend/Ronnie Lane: Rough Mix
Tina Turner: Private Dancer
Uriah Heep: Return to Fantasy
Roger Waters: Radio K.A.O.S.
Kokomo: Kokomo; Rise & Shine
Richard Wright: Wet Dream
Tony O'Malley: Oh!
Pete Bardens: Heart To Heart


Just sayin'

[trurl]

Mel Collins ruined the Small Faces!!

[Squigelyfox]

As much as I like Mel Collins, he never improved Camel! He had his moments with them, but that's all.

[JKL2000]

As much as I like Mel Collins, he never improved Camel! He had his moments with them, but that's all.

Did you say that with a cheesy, fake English accent, then inhale a pinch of snuff from your white-gloved fingers after saying it, or did I imagine that?

I assume you were including his live contributions to Camel in that assessment.

[Scrotum Scissor]

Genesis et al. are ruining PE. Without their own effort.

[rcarlberg]

Camel without Mel Collins would be just Ca.

[daven]

I like her:

http://melcollins.com/

[Squigelyfox]

Did you say that with a cheesy, fake English accent, then inhale a pinch of snuff from your white-gloved fingers after saying it, or did I imagine that?

I assume you were including his live contributions to Camel in that assessment.

Yes. Why not? Just sounded like another type of Camel to me. Different, but not better.

[JKL2000]

Yes. Why not? Just sounded like another type of Camel to me. Different, but not better.

Well, on the live albums that Mel Collins is on, he plays all flute and other wind instruments - not Andy Latimer. IMO, Camel with wind instruments is better than Camel without wind instruments - IMO they're an important part of Camel's sound, and make the band sound better. But if you think they add nothing to the band's sound, you're of course free to have your own opinion.

[Classic Progressive]

Well the Camel video was interesting for sure.


BTW Genesis did exactly what it wanted to do.... Collins is a great musician and the early prog work, TOTT & W&W and the pieces that stand out in their later (pop) work is all great stuff.... I, like may fans would have lovd to have had more of the progressive rock. But Genesis decided to go the way of $$$ sales. And they did well for themselves. So I do not feel betrayed or dissapointed really. Phil and the band made Millions...! However with that said.... They are all obviosly quite wealthy, and have been for some time. It would be a real testiment to them and to their loyal fans from the early days if they could just all have some fun and write a prog album with Peter Gabriel again.... and if they need session musicians to help perform it live then so be it. That would be a tour worth seeing.... I wonder if they can remember how to write like they once did.

Randy

[Squigelyfox]

Well, on the live albums that Mel Collins is on, he plays all flute and other wind instruments - not Andy Latimer. IMO, Camel with wind instruments is better than Camel without wind instruments - IMO they're an important part of Camel's sound, and make the band sound better. But if you think they add nothing to the band's sound, you're of course free to have your own opinion.

Camel with flute I like. Are you sure it was just Mel playing flute? I saw them in 77 and Andy and Mel both played flute at the same time. I remember it well, and it was really nice! Andy played flute on the latest tour too, and many others, before and after Mel.
I really love the Pan Pipes on ' Stationary Traveller ' too. :)

[JKL2000]

Camel with flute I like. Are you sure it was just Mel playing flute? I saw them in 77 and Andy and Mel both played flute at the same time. I remember it well, and it was really nice! Andy played flute on the latest tour too, and many others, before and after Mel.
I really love the Pan Pipes on ' Stationary Traveller ' too. :)

I'm going by the Personnel listings for the live albums on Wikipedia.

[Hurm]

I always thought it was the serpent....

But I'm an athiest, so how do I know.

[chalkpie]

Mel Collins ruined this great song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7sLYNwevDQ

[Dave (in MA)]

I always thought it was the serpent....

But I'm an athiest, so how do I know.Athier than thou.

[JKL2000]

What is this concept of a god of which you speak?

[firth5th]

Mel Collins blows!

[JIF]

Mel Collins blows!Rimshot!!

[Rarebird]

Mel Collins blows!

At least he doesn't suck.

[flowerking]

Camel without Mel Collins would be just Ca.

I love a bad joke. This is one of the best worst jokes I've seen in a long time!

[JKL2000]

Mel Collins blows!

Camel without CAME would just be l.

[Dave (in MA)]

Camel without Mel Collins would be just Ca.
I love a bad joke. This is one of the best worst jokes I've seen in a long time!
This thread is starting to calcify.

[Rufus]

This thread is starting to calcify.

Phil Collins ruined PE!

[GuitarGeek]

Phil Collins ruined PE!

PE ruined Phil Collins!

[JIF]

Phil Collins ruined PE!Ouch!! Did someone hit a nerve by starting this thread? I hope you see now why your Phil bashing is not cool. Now, can we get back to talking about how Mel Collins ruined Genesis?

[GuitarGeek]

Now, can we get back to talking about how Mel Collins ruined Genesis?

Wait a minute. I thought we agreed it was General Tito who ruined Genesis.

[JIF]

Wait a minute. I thought we agreed it was Roger Vadim who ruined Genesis.But isn't thread titled Mel Collins Ruined Genesis?

[trurl]

Mel Collins ruined the Bible!

[Rufus]

Ouch!! Did someone hit a nerve by starting this thread? I hope you see now why your Phil bashing is not cool. Now, can we get back to talking about how Mel Collins ruined Genesis?

Yeah, lets deflect the blame to poor old Mel!

[JIF]

Yeah, lets deflect the blame to poor old Mel!It's a joke, Rufus.

[GuitarGeek]

Mel Collins ruined the Bible!

No, that was Cecil B. DeMille!

[JIF]

Mel Collins ruined Bad Company and King Crimson.

[Mr.Krautman]

I allways thought there was way too much saxophone on the early Genesis records and never liked their jazzy sound. Now I know who's responsible of this and It's good to know he has been fired. I sincerely hope Mel wil be not take part in the next Genesis reunion tour. I heard he also can play flute quite well, thus he might be a good replacement for Ian Anderson in the next Jethro Tull reincarnation. But no more saxophone in Genesis, PLEASE !!!

[Jerjo]

Mel Collins was responsible for Lino leaving PE

[Progatron]

I allways thought there was way too much saxophone on the early Genesis records and never liked their jazzy sound. Now I know who's responsible of this and It's good to know he has been fired. I sincerely hope Mel wil be not take part in the next Genesis reunion tour. I heard he also can play flute quite well, thus he might be a good replacement for Ian Anderson in the next Jethro Tull reincarnation. But no more saxophone in Genesis, PLEASE !!!

Totally agree with all of this. The blaring saxes virtually ruin the entire middle section of "Can-Utility", and are even more out of place in songs like "Dusk" and "The Lamia".

[trurl]

The sax in Can-Utility was Ian McDonald. It's a common mistake.

[Mr.Krautman]

The sax in Can-Utility was Ian McDonald. It's a common mistake.

I stand corrected. Thus Ian Mc Donald ruined Genesis too... and he already ruined Steve Hackett's "Genesis Revisited (I)". Didn't he also ruined King Crimson long ago ?

[JIF]

Didn't he also ruined King Crimson long ago ?No, but he ruined Starrider by Foreigner with his flute playing and Long, Long Way From Home with his sax playing. ;)

[paulus]

Actually, I quite like Phil.

Purists sniff that he ruined Genesis, but he has a good voice, and the compositions were OK. Genesis simply evolved. It had to. Just as Rabin didn't really ruin Yes. They just evolved.

(Talk about a hornet's nest.)

[Homburg]

Mel C ruined The Spice Girls.

[ronmac]

What ever happened to that project Mel was working on with Chris McGuire? I suppose he would've ended up ruining that, too.

[JKL2000]

Anyone remember in an episode of 30 Rock, Liz is visited by the ghosts of three people who lost their jobs because they became irrelevant or something like that, and one of them was a black guy who said something like "I played dynamite sax solos in rock and roll songs." I LOL'd.

[Zeuhlmate]

Mel Collins' Witnesses declares: Genesis brought it upon themselves !

[NogbadTheBad]

Mel Blanc ruined Bugs Bunny

[syncopatico]

Mel Collins improved Roger Waters!

[Mr.Krautman]

Mel Collins ruined many many other talented musicians... Just look at this poor trombone player in the picture below.

[JIF]

Actually, I quite like Phil.

Purists sniff that he ruined Genesis, but he has a good voice, and the compositions were OK. Genesis simply evolved. It had to. Just as Rabin didn't really ruin Yes. They just evolved.

(Talk about a hornet's nest.)Did you want to incur the wrath of Rufus? This is a thread about how Mel Collins ruined Genesis. Saying the name of that other Collins makes Rufus the troll wake from his slumber.

[Scott Bails]

Mel Collins ruined many many other talented musicians... Just look at this poor trombone player in the picture below.

That's quite a booty.

[ronmac]

Did you want to incur the wrath of Rufus? This is a thread about how Mel Collins ruined Genesis. Saying the name of that other Collins makes Rufus the troll wake from his slumber.

Why are you so obsessed with Rufus?

[trurl]

Chaka Kahn ruined Rufus.

[JIF]

Why are you so obsessed with Rufus?Do me a favor, Ron. Look at the opening post in this thread. Who do you think inspired this thread? Here's a quarter, buy a clue. ;)

[Scott Bails]

Chaka Kahn ruined Rufus.


:lol

[GuitarGeek]

Chaka Kahn ruined Rufus.

Stevie Wonder and Prince ruined Chaka Khan.

[Rarebird]

Chaka Kahn ruined Rufus.

She didn't ruin Ruphus.

[JIF]

Peter Collins ruined Flying Colors.

[firth5th]

Phil Collins ruined Flaming Youth.

[JIF]

Phil Collins ruined Flaming Youth.He also ruined Eric Clapton.

[firth5th]

Phil Collins ruined Flaming Youth.


http://youtu.be/4fj9JZhG8s4

[ronmac]

Do me a favor, Ron. Look at the opening post in this thread. Who do you think inspired this thread? Here's a quarter, buy a clue. ;)

:lol !! If there was anyone who needed a clue, I'm pretty sure we can start a fund for you.

Listen, Skippy. I am simply tired of opening threads for a recent comment and seeing yet another one of your obsessed posts about Rufus. We get it. You don't like his opinion. We get it. So, please, do us all a favor and move on.

[Shadow]

Genesis ruined Phil Collins.

[dpt3]

Don't know about Mel or Phil ruining anything, but Phil's daughter Lily is welcome to "ruin" me anytime she likes.

[Scott Bails]

:lol

[Shadow]

Phil's daughter Lily is welcome to "ruin" me anytime she likes.

http://cdn2-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2013/04/The-Mortal-Instruments-City-of-Bones-Lily-Collins-e1365490804364.jpg

[GuitarGeek]

He also ruined Eric Clapton.

I thought it was JJ Cale who ruined Eric Clapton.

[NogbadTheBad]

No it was JJ Cale who made Eric Clapton

[JKL2000]

Mel Collins was the genesis of Ruins. That band was his idea.

[JIF]

:lol !! If there was anyone who needed a clue, I'm pretty sure we can start a fund for you.

Listen, Skippy. I am simply tired of opening threads for a recent comment and seeing yet another one of your obsessed posts about Rufus. We get it. You don't like his opinion. We get it. So, please, do us all a favor and move on.Um, you ought to tell that to the person that started this thread, and the people that are replying(unless they also don't know why this thread was started). Btw, I'm not the only one making fun of Rufus. Since this whole thread was started because of Rufus and you don't like people making fun of him, why did you open this thread? I'm just asking. ;)

[JIF]

Phil's daughter Lily is welcome to "ruin" me anytime she likes.I'm kinda put off by her eyebrows, but I'd go for some of that.

[GuitarGeek]

Um, you ought to tell that to the person that started this thread, and the people that are replying(unless they also don't know why this thread was started).

Actually, I'm not sure Rufus had anything to do with it. I saw a post about Genesis, Phil was mentioned, but only by his surname, and somehow my mind defaulted to Mel Collins for some reason. I don't know if Rufus was the poster or not in question. Given some of the ridiculous things some people post on his forum, I thought it might be interesting yet another ridiculous post up the flagpole and see who salutes it.

[JIF]

Actually, I'm not sure Rufus had anything to do with it. I saw a post about Genesis, Phil was mentioned, but only by his surname, and somehow my mind defaulted to Mel Collins for some reason. I don't know if Rufus was the poster or not in question. Given some of the ridiculous things some people post on his forum, I thought it might be interesting yet another ridiculous post up the flagpole and see who salutes it.You mean there's someone else around here besides Rufus that uses a thread to bash Phil Collins? Give me his name and I'll time him up and I'll make him watch Mirror Mirror a thousand times.

[JKL2000]

Phil Bashing is like "Yo Mama" jokes around here. Yo Mama ruined Genesis!

[ronmac]

Actually, it was Phil's Mama.

[GuitarGeek]

Phil Bashing is like "Yo Mama" jokes around here. Yo Mama ruined Genesis!

That's it! It was Frank Zappa who ruined Genesis!

[JIF]

There should be a show called How Your Mother Ruined Genesis.

[Rarebird]

There should be a show called How Your Mother Ruined Genesis.

I ruined Genesis.

[Rufus]

I ruined Genesis.

Are you AKA Phil Collins ?

[allanon]

I didn't even know Genesis was ruined.
But the rumour of Mel ruining Joan while Phil watched are totally true.
His sister Suzanne told me herself.

[firth5th]

There should be a show called How Your Mother Ruined Genesis.

Oh mama, mama, your taking away my last chance!

HA HA HA ... HA HA!!

[ronmac]

Mel gets a lot of flak for writing sappy music. But, you have to admit, the holidays just aren't the same without "The Christmas Song."

[Rarebird]

Are you AKA Phil Collins ?

No. I'm not balding.

[Jvalvano]

Dinsdale...

[JKL2000]

I didn't even know Genesis was ruined.
But the rumour of Mel ruining Joan while Phil watched are totally true.
His sister Suzanne told me herself.

Mel Collins banged Joan Collins?

[JKL2000]

Mel gets a lot of flak for writing sappy music. But, you have to admit, the holidays just aren't the same without "The Christmas Song."

A little aside : a few weeks ago was riding in the car with my 4 1/2 year old son listening to Christmas music on Sirius XM. Mel Torme comes on singing The Christmas Song and my son asks "Why is his voice so smooth?" He truly was the Velvet Fog!

Also, auto spell wants to change Torme to Torment. LOL.

[ronmac]

Also, auto spell wants to change Torme to Torment. LOL.

I always referred to him as Mel Torment, anyway. Got that from a friend of mine.

[TheLoony]

I confess, it was me that ruined Mel Collins. I'm a bad seed, what can I say? Therefore, I'm the one who ruined Genesis, which is sort of a bit of pride, as I don't like them much at all.

YAY me!

[Shadow]

I ruined my underwear, now will you please excuse me.

[JIF]

Inspired by the David Longdon Joins Genesis thread(and you know who), can we talk about how David Longdon ruined Genesis?

[Rufus]

Inspired by the David Longdon Joins Genesis thread(and you know who), can we talk about how David Longdon ruined Genesis?

He didnt!By not giving him the job his integrity remains intact. Therefore Genesis SAVED David Langdon!

[JIF]

He didnt!By not giving him the job his integrity remains intact. Therefore Genesis SAVED David Langdon!You fell for it; hook, line, and sinker. Enough, man.

[ronmac]

He didnt!By not giving him the job his integrity remains intact. Therefore Genesis SAVED David Langdon!

:lol

[ronmac]

You fell for it; hook, line, and sinker. Enough, man.

Well, you re-opened the door, didn't you?

[JIF]

Well, you re-opened the door, didn't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S44gL1-bZxs