Are we missing anyone - did we lose some??

[Trane]

From PE v2.0, that is...

Some where refractory to change, but most did it anyway: I was very happy to see some come in despite heavy reserves...

OK, some of the members that were rare on 2.0 are maybe not here yet, but from the frequent posters... is anyone not here??

[sonic]

"Ladies and gentlemen: the story you are about to hear is true. Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent."

[Vic2012]

... is anyone not here??

I'm sure they'll find their way eventually. I think some people are still resisting the change and they're gonna stand their ground. I'm sure there are a few stubborn goats that ain't changin' fer nuthin.' :lol

[per anporth]

Haven't seen JJ hereabouts... :huh

[sonic]

There's no MITTY unless he changed his name. I guess he just couldn't handle a screwed pooch! :lol

[80s were ok]

are those stats right? Are 2500+ looking at the main forum, even right now?

[JKL2000]

The old PE is still upside down, and PE equivalents of Shelly Winters, Gene Hackman, Ernest Borgnine, and Roddy McDowell are trying to reach the hull.

[Vic2012]

:lol

Out of curiosity I went to "Old PE" too see what was going on. I just posted on a thread titled "I'm Never Posting Here Again" or something or other. I read a few posts and the old Teryton cigarette commercial came to minds. Sure enough, Shadow posted an old add with the slogan "I'd rather fight, than switch." Hilarious :lol.

[Jerjo]

Shadow has been posted in the new NSFW group so I would say he has successfully made the switch. Haven't seen Mr. Nasser, Kid Running Fox, and thank god, Jegheist. My apologies for including the two former gentlemen in the same sentence as the later.

[progeezer]

Luis and Mark (the Fox) have both migrated. Just not posting much yet, I guess.

[Yodelgoat]

I hope we get lots of new people here who want to post their definitions of Prog.

[Gruno]

It's rather fun (and funny) to see some so uptight about the new board. I'm actually loving that some are so against it.

[80s were ok]

It's rather fun (and funny) to see some so uptight about the new board. I'm actually loving that some are so against it.

i think the new board is very good too. Took me about a 10 days or so to move over, but now that I'm on, the old board just seems 'old' - but i'm not surprised about people who don't want change - I mean half the people on PE still want Yes to record "another Fragile" instead of doing something new - and half of those people still think it's 1973.

[Hobo Chang Ba]

I still here, unfortunately for you all.

[Dave (in MA)]

Before the plug got pulled in PEII, some people were complaining that they couldn't figure out how to work the new site, despite the fact that it's about as hard to operate as a doorknob.

[Vic2012]

I still here, unfortunately for you all.

Joo estill heer?

:)

[JKL2000]

On old PE they just killed a wild pig.

[rapidfirerob]

I miss the Earth spinning around. Other than that, it's all right.

[zombywoof]

It certainly seems like there are less here than on the old PE.

[trurl]

Is Nestor here?

[progeezer]

Click on "Community" and then click on "Member List" in the dropdown menu. It's alphabetized properly:O.

[Gruno]

Click on "Community" and then click on "Member List" in the dropdown menu. It's alphabetized properly:O.

By the way, nice avatar, progeezer!

[progeezer]

By the way, nice avatar, progeezer!Aw shucks! Thanks!:)

[Trane]

Is Nestor here?

He said he would join, but haven't seen him yet
Mysterious traveller is about to do the same

On the other hand, you're right some change of name has happened
Haven't seen Tom/yanks post yet >> new name?? Reiss is Digital man, I believe

on the other hand Rick (Baku llama) hasn't been here, and I haven't seen Jeff Carney either

[NogbadTheBad]

Yanks is here with no name change

[3LockBox]

I'm not here

[sonic]

I don't see everybody's favorite poster, ThegirlwhocriedYES.

[wideopenears]

On old PE they just killed a wild pig.

LMAO, coffee almost out the nose on that one, thanks!:D

[rottersclub]

^^^ Same here, except I started choking while laughing. A potentially deadly combination, but I came through it.

P.S. TOIB/SMcFee has indicated he will not be coming to the dance, as he has to do his homework. Or he's been grounded.

[Progmatic]

As usually with any transaction some casualities are expected...;)

btw...I have not seen anything from Lynnette (Red Masque) recently...is she still with us?

[3LockBox]

I don't see everybody's favorite poster, ThegirlwhocriedYES.
I think this poster is potentially:

a) a dude pretending to be a 13yr old girl...
b) a female not really 13yrs old...
c) an actual 13yr old girl...

- who has a sexually suggestive moniker

no thanks

[Gravedigger]

If someone as "technology challenged" as myself can switch over to the New PE, there is no excuse for anyone else not to.

[bill g]

Shadow has been posted in the new NSFW group so I would say he has successfully made the switch. Haven't seen Mr. Nasser, Kid Running Fox, and thank god, Jegheist. My apologies for including the two former gentlemen in the same sentence as the later.

Jegheist now posts under the name canterburyscene, I believe. I don't know though if he, as canterburyscene, has made the switch.

Edit: canterburyscene is not yet on the members list (as of 11/19)

[Vic2012]

They killed a pig and cooked it in a Chinese Box. The meat is suck-u-lant and falls right off the bone :lol.

[The Silent Man]

Actually... I haven't seen Silver Shoes here. As I recall... he was never away from PE v2... ;)

[Gravedigger]

I think Silver Shoes is now Guitar Geek.

[NorCalKurt]

I can think of a few that wouldn't be missed. ;)

[Trane]

On old PE they just killed a wild pig.



Is Nestor here?

It's easy to make the link, ain't it??

JK, Nestor!!! :P ;)

[JKL2000]

It's easy to make the link, ain't it??

JK, Nestor!!! :P ;)

Hey!! :yell I can pull his load though - let me know when someone needs me to point out that illegal downloading IS NOT THEFT. It's copyright infringement which is entirely different.

[Camelogue]

I'm here, I am not Queer, (not that there is anything wrong with that.)
Get used to it!

[Jerjo]

Hey!! :yell I can pull his load though - let me know when someone needs me to point out that illegal downloading IS NOT THEFT. It's copyright infringement which is entirely different.

Now there's a signature line :bad

[Corbie]

I see that Imperial (John) hasn't joined us yet.

[Mick]

I think Silver Shoes is now Guitar Geek.
A bunch of us siezed a rare opportunity to change our monikers when we changed over, 'cos us early arrivees found there was an open market on available new screen names here.
I'm still Mister Bee in some circles... but to my friends, I'm plain Mick...
& weez ARE all frendz here... right?

[3LockBox]

When this site first got up-n-running, I registered under several old PE monikers.

PM me if you want to buy back your old moniker.

[Kim Olesen]

I don't think Raindances is here.

[Jerjo]

Just post a thread about Tull bonus tracks and he'll beat down the doors to get in.

[moecurlythanu]

Has the Phidiferous one surfaced here yet? He would be missed greatly, if not.

[Trane]

Hey!! :yell I can pull his load though - let me know when someone needs me to point out that illegal downloading IS NOT THEFT. It's copyright infringement which is entirely different.

hey don't get angry... I was not aware of any issues between you two

[sonic]

I like Nestor. The man knows what he is talking about and he's not afraid to cut to the chase even if he ruffles a few feathers.

[Calabasas_Trafalgar]

Where is Intestine Brain?

[Hunnibee]

I hopped over here as soon as the link leaked out!


The old PE is still upside down, and PE equivalents of Shelly Winters, Gene Hackman, Ernest Borgnine, and Roddy McDowell are trying to reach the hull.

I love that movie! I haven't seen the remake, and don't want to.

[The Red Masque]

hi all
Finally found my way here :) still looking around and figuring out what goes where but I kind of like it.
Sorry I have not been on much here as of late. Life gets in the way sometimes!
I missed the whole debate about the new PE so I was unaware we were switching over to this new forum.
Anyway, looking good so far....

[NogbadTheBad]

Lynnette!!

Great to see you here.

[The Red Masque]

thank you. Nice to be back but in new spiffy digs!

[Sean]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlhTkPBYo5s

[progeezer]

^^^^^^^^

:rofl Almost (but not quite) caused incontinence!:O

Waddya wanna bet he comes back w/a different name?

Oh yeah...welcome back Lynette!:)

[GuitarGeek]

I hopped over here as soon as the link leaked out!



I love that movie! I haven't seen the remake, and don't want to.

Prog related fact: that movie was based on a book written by Paul Gallico, the same author responsible for The Snow Goose.

[3LockBox]

I love that movie! I haven't seen the remake, and don't want to.

Don't. It isn't a patch on the old one.

[sonic]

Don't. It isn't a patch on the old one.
True. But it wasn't that bad either. It just didn't bring anything new to the table.

[Esoteric]

Hey guys--tech ignorance here --how do you do the avatar?

[Progmatic]

Do we have Maided (sorry about spelling) around ?

[Jerjo]

Hey guys--tech ignorance here --how do you do the avatar?

Go up to Forum Actions and hit "edit profile" on the drop down. I think it has to be an 80x80 pixel character.

[Sean]

Edit your profile and upload one. 80 x 80 pixels, tops. Note- it is not the same as the pic on your profile.

[Esoteric]

think Ive got that one now--bit of a devil finding nice 80 X80s for free.

[Duncan Glenday]

think Ive got that one now--bit of a devil finding nice 80 X80s for free.

It will actually let you load one that's a bit bigger - and the system will resize it down to 80x80.

[Sean]

It will actually let you load one that's a bit bigger - and the system will resize it down to 80x80.
That's good to know! Less work too!

[moecurlythanu]

Whatever happened to the Prog Rabbi? Sorry I don't remember his name. Did he make it here?

[progeezer]

I think his PE name was Shakurav or something like that.

I presume you don't mean "Rick", who isn't a Rabbi but is involved with music at his synagogue.

[moecurlythanu]

No, you have it right, Geez. Shakurav. Haven't seen him here.

[Poisoned Youth]

No, you have it right, Geez. Shakurav. Haven't seen him here.

Yeah, but he hasn't posted on PE for years.

[Jerjo]

I wonder if Huques is ever going to show up.

[Trane]

I wonder if Hugues is ever going to show up.

The Brussels guy is here :D

The Montreal one, I haven't seen or read yet

[progeezer]

The Brussels guy is here :D

The Montreal one, I haven't seen or read yetI seriously doubt that you'll see Hugues Photo/Ooog here again. It's a very long story and others here (truthfully not me) are involved, so end of story.

[Uncle Norm]

Testing 123. Just me!!!

[Magnashine]

Yes, where is Marla :D

[Jerjo]

Yes, where is Marla :D

I see what you did there.

Mitty ever bite the bullet and show up?

[Magnashine]

Nah! Must have been scared.

[kid_runningfox]

I am here! Just not much time to post right now, though - and still getting my head around the very non-intuitive format of the new forum... :meh

[kid_runningfox]

Besides which, i seem to have been exlcuded from my favourite thread entirely...:(

[progeezer]

Send Eric the Doofus (not to be confused with Erick the Red) a PM, Mark. Wake him up. I'll post something in the thread too.

[kid_runningfox]

I already have - honest!!

[Yves]

Mark, you don't have a notification stating you've been invited into a private group? I'd toss you in but on this new board, the originator of the group is the moderator and only he can send invitations...

[Gruno]

I see what you did there.

Mitty ever bite the bullet and show up?

I was wondering this also.

[Big Block 454 part 2]

I am here! Just not much time to post right now, though - and still getting my head around the very non-intuitive format of the new forum... :meh

Yes, I'm struggling with it too. Clumsy, messy - just not any fun to use.

[Magnashine]

Sorry all. I stepped into an unknown land without knowing it. Ignore whatever I posted previously please.

[Brian Griffin]

Clumsy, messy - just not any fun to use.

Wow

BG

[moecurlythanu]

I did notice a shortage of mind blowingly incredible threads here...Did echolynfan come over?

[kid_runningfox]

Yes, I'm struggling with it too. Clumsy, messy - just not any fun to use.

Indeed, in fact in all honesty I'd say it's pretty horrible compared to the old board - Sorry Sean, just my humble opinion!!

[kid_runningfox]

Mark, you don't have a notification stating you've been invited into a private group? I'd toss you in but on this new board, the originator of the group is the moderator and only he can send invitations...

Nope - at least not yet in any case.

[nosebone]

Indeed, in fact in all honesty I'd say it's pretty horrible compared to the old board - Sorry Sean, just my humble opinion!!

Agreed.

It was so simple, direct & easy on the eyes.
This place feels bloated & impersonal.

No offense Sean, I'll get used to it.

[3LockBox]

Wow, some of you act as though keeping the old board was a choice.

[Christopher Henry]

Indeed, in fact in all honesty I'd say it's pretty horrible compared to the old board...

I agree with this. I miss the ol' board.

:(

[moecurlythanu]

Not me. I think v3 mops the floor with the old board.

[NogbadTheBad]

Wow, some of you act as though keeping the old board was a choice.This is the key point, if the admins could have kept the old board they would have. Sean has admitted the new place is getting little getting used to.

Personally I think they've done a great job considering the fact that they had to change. I'm getting used to the place. I like it, still not as much as the old place, but we'll get there.

[80s were ok]

seriously, People are still bitching and moaning about switching to the new board??

[-=RTFR666=-]

seriously, People are still bitching and moaning about switching to the new board??

Yet here you are once again, popping in to bitch about other posters' bitching. :roll :rofl

[80s were ok]

right..cause i go to every single thread and do that...by the way...who are you?

[sonic]

Yet here you are once again, popping in to bitch about other posters' bitching. :roll :rofl
Yes. 80s constant attacking of people with an opinion is getting tiresome.

[80s were ok]

Yes. 80s constant attacking of people with an opinion is getting tiresome.

you got me sonic. I go to every single PE and thread and do nothing but attack opinions. Good job Magnum.

[Trane]

I am here! Just not much time to post right now, though - and still getting my head around the very non-intuitive format of the new forum... Yes, I'm struggling with it too. Clumsy, messy - just not any fun to use.

Yes, 3.0 is very un-intuitive, IMHO

But you get used to it...


I did notice a shortage of mind blowingly incredibly obtuse threads here...Did echolynfan come over?

Oh, please no!!! Not him...

Though you do make a point with the fact that no spellbinding threads have been opened... A few might have turned out nice, but they didn't get followed by the right people...

[Trane]

Indeed, in fact in all honesty I'd say it's pretty horrible compared to the old board - Sorry Sean, just my humble opinion!!


Agreed.

It was so simple, direct & easy on the eyes.
This place feels bloated & impersonal.

No offense Sean, I'll get used to it.

Yeah, just to do what I did (quote in a quote) takes too much manipulation...



Wow, some of you act as though keeping the old board was a choice.

Well of course it isn't a choice


I agree with this. I miss the ol' board.

It's pretty depressibng out there nowadays.... but I keep checking it out once a day...


This is the key point, if the admins could have kept the old board they would have. Sean has admitted the new place is getting little getting used to.

Personally I think they've done a great job considering the fact that they had to change. I'm getting used to the place. I like it, still not as much as the old place, but we'll get there.

Yeah, un-intuitive 3.0.... but kudos for Sean Coz, Duncan and whoever else did the 3.0... luv you guys, despite my bickerings


Yes. 80s constant attacking of people with an opinion is getting tiresome.

Best ignored... like some kind of pesky skeeter... swat him away ;)

[Vic2012]

I'm suprised at how some diehards just can't adapt to the new board. I went through a bit of withdrawal with the old board for a couple weeks, but I stopped missing the ol' board a few weeks ago. I'm fine with the v3. I'm just amazed that some people just can't adapt. These are "progressive" music fans, who are progressive, intelligent, collidge edumacated, forward thinkers (and all kidding aside), they can't get used to using a message board. What are these guys (like Nestor) gonna do when v2 finally gets shut down? They'll either get with the program, or just move on. All because of stubborn pride.
Seriously, I'm truly amazed at how stubborn some people are about adapting to the new board. I really don't miss the old board. The mods have done a great job. :up

[sonic]

What are these guys (like Nestor) gonna do when v2 finally gets shut down? They'll either get with the program, or just move on. All because of stubborn pride.

I'm also puzzled by Nestor. He's the last person I would have thought would cling to PE 2.0. Whatever. No doubt he's here lurking under a new name.

[roddenberry]

Well I like the new forum, kind of reminds me of the Portnoy forum. I think it uses the same type of database. Only a few minor things annoy me a bit... like the access to private threads which is a bit meandering, and the fact that I would have preferred only three forums: Main, Off Topic (music related) and Way off topic (anything goes)... all three grouped on the main welcome page, with the main forum directly viewable by default upon login.

With those two points addressed, the new forum would feel exactly like the old forum, but with all the bells and whistles of the new one. We old proggers are indeed a bit resistant to change... we could be compared to the republicans of modern music. LOL!

Robert

[Vic2012]

What I don't get is why the there is still a link/button to the Old Progressive Ears at the top. Why not remove it altogether? My guess is that at some point, before the plug is pulled completely on the old site the mods will have to give a final warning to the stubborn few (I'm imagining something like Rush's 2112, in that booming voice, attention all inhabitants of the old PE, this is your final warning ........:bad).

[Trane]

I'm suprised at how some diehards just can't adapt to the new board. I went through a bit of withdrawal with the old board for a couple weeks, but I stopped missing the ol' board a few weeks ago. I'm fine with the v3. I'm just amazed that some people just can't adapt. These are "progressive" music fans, who are progressive, intelligent, collidge edumacated, forward thinkers (and all kidding aside), they can't get used to using a message board. What are these guys (like Nestor) gonna do when v2 finally gets shut down? They'll either get with the program, or just move on. All because of stubborn pride.
Seriously, I'm truly amazed at how stubborn some people are about adapting to the new board. I really don't miss the old board. The mods have done a great job. :up


I doçn't think that in my case, it's a question of wanting to adapt... and pride has nothing to do with it, IMHO... cos no-one would take pride in getting stck behi,nd for being unable to adapt

I participate to five or six forums in both French or English... some of them have an antiquated platform (RYM for ex) , others are now also showing their age (ProgArchives and sister sites >> software dates from 03)... Others are modern modern (BDgest, Rock6070).... But I got the hang of those forum almost instantly, or at least I don't remember struggling as I do here (as I did with PE2.0)... Here, it doesn't come intuitively ... I appreciate a few plus (like the shortcuts, without which3.0 would be a real pain) here, though... but calling 3.0 more functional or easy-to-use would be misleading to me...

It's actually kind of puzzling how a newer version of software is less intuitive than a previos model.... a bit like Office 2010 is much less intuitive than office 2003...


I'm also puzzled by Nestor. He's the last person I would have thought would cling to PE 2.0. Whatever. No doubt he's here lurking under a new name.

Yeah, I can't help but thinking somehow this may be part of his generally provocative attitude... but no doubt we'd have spottezd him under a different username

[Jerjo]

I'm also puzzled by Nestor. He's the last person I would have thought would cling to PE 2.0. Whatever. No doubt he's here lurking under a new name.

No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream. PE 2.0, not sane, stood by itself against its hills, holding Nestor within; it had stood so for eighty years and might stand for eighty more. Within, walls continued upright, bricks met neatly, floors were firm, and doors were sensibly shut; silence lay steadily against the wood and stone of PE 2.0, and whatever walked there, walked alone

[80s were ok]

Yeah, just to do what I did (quote in a quote) takes too much manipulation...




Best ignored... like some kind of pesky skeeter... swat him away ;)
i agree best to ignore annoying posters who only post to troll...:lol

[moecurlythanu]

we could be compared to the republicans of modern music. LOL!

Robert

No need to be insulting, Robert! ;)

[moecurlythanu]

It's actually kind of puzzling how a newer version of software is less intuitive than a previos model.



Maybe your intuition needs a checkup. ;)

[Gruno]

I'm suprised at how some diehards just can't adapt to the new board.

You've seen prog fans at festivals right? Not all, but some, appear to have not adapted to many things through the years. Yet, you say...


I'm just amazed that some people just can't adapt. These are "progressive" music fans, who are progressive, intelligent, collidge edumacated, forward thinkers (and all kidding aside), they can't get used to using a message board.

Yeah, many live with music that is considered ancient and still want it to be as such. Many do not adapt to new music. Some can't adapt here.


What are these guys (like Nestor) gonna do when v2 finally gets shut down? They'll either get with the program, or just move on. All because of stubborn pride.
Seriously, I'm truly amazed at how stubborn some people are about adapting to the new board.

Anyone can adapt to the new board. I think some just want to complain. If these prog fans are so well educated, they sure don't show it with the way they complain about this new board. I know it is just a few, but there is more fun in using a blanket statement here. :bad


I'm also puzzled by Nestor. He's the last person I would have thought would cling to PE 2.0. Whatever. No doubt he's here lurking under a new name.

He comes off as a sniveling baby on the other board regarding this new board. I chalk that up to the character he portrays on PE.


It's actually kind of puzzling how a newer version of software is less intuitive than a previos model....

I am amazed that you are on other boards and this one seems to give you a certain amount of trouble. That is puzzling and odd. :oops

[progeezer]

If I can adapt with the IT knowledge of a rabid ferret, then anyone can.

[Gruno]

If I can adapt with the IT knowledge of a rabid ferret, then anyone can.

:up

[Duncan Glenday]

What I don't get is why the there is still a link/button to the Old Progressive Ears at the top. Why not remove it altogether?

A few reasons:

1). There are still a few long-running PM threads (though they will die out soon).

2). We promised a run-out of a few months - and plan to stick to that promise. (I think we'll be closing it down for new posts within the week.)

3). That's where the reviews are. Until I have a chance to convert them to PEv3 - we need to go to PEv2 for the 4,000+ reviews.

[Vic2012]

Duncan, I think you should just pull the plug on Jan. 1, 2013 at 00:01 am. Just do it. Get er done ;).

[kid_runningfox]

I'm suprised at how some diehards just can't adapt to the new board. I went through a bit of withdrawal with the old board for a couple weeks, but I stopped missing the ol' board a few weeks ago. I'm fine with the v3. I'm just amazed that some people just can't adapt. These are "progressive" music fans, who are progressive, intelligent, collidge edumacated, forward thinkers (and all kidding aside), they can't get used to using a message board. What are these guys (like Nestor) gonna do when v2 finally gets shut down? They'll either get with the program, or just move on. All because of stubborn pride.
Seriously, I'm truly amazed at how stubborn some people are about adapting to the new board. I really don't miss the old board. The mods have done a great job. :up

I can adapt well enough. I just don't like the new board, as I find it very cumbersome, over-complicated, and considerably less immediate than the old board. When you don't have a huge amount of time in the day to persue what's happening here that's important. And thank you to all those who suggest the only reason I might mention this is because I simply 'want to complain' about something. Tell you what, next time I discover something that Iused to enjoy a great deal, but has ben altered in a manner that is not to my taste I'll keep my mouth shut and humbly suggest that you do the same.

[Duncan Glenday]

Duncan, I think you should just pull the plug on Jan. 1, 2013 at 00:01 am. Just do it. Get er done ;).

I was thinking of midnight on 12/21 ... to coincide with the end of the world!



(Kidding)

[Jerjo]

Two easy ways to use the new board - go to "new posts" or "new group messages". You'll get all the hot topics right there.

[rottersclub]

I'm actually enjoying the new board more than I initially thought I would. Some of the differences make things easier for me to zero in on what I'm after. For example, the relative timestamps are much more meaningful to me than the whacked out GMT timestamps on V2.

Sure, the trading facility isn't as good as the old one, but overall, I'm enjoying V3 just fine.

Thanks to all who made the transition as smooth as it was.

[Yves]

I can adapt well enough. I just don't like the new board, as I find it very cumbersome, over-complicated, and considerably less immediate than the old board. When you don't have a huge amount of time in the day to persue what's happening here that's important. And thank you to all those who suggest the only reason I might mention this is because I simply 'want to complain' about something. Tell you what, next time I discover something that Iused to enjoy a great deal, but has ben altered in a manner that is not to my taste I'll keep my mouth shut and humbly suggest that you do the same.

Yeah, I have to agree. Even when I do have time to post here, I rarely do. The site just doesn't "invite" me to do so. There are forums I have opened maybe once. There are way too many threads for me to try to keep up with. I have come to loathe the "group" feature. I truly feel this new board is designed for forum junkies, of which I am not. Long live PE in whatever form it takes, but I have become a fringe member now. Hell, February will mark my 10-year anniversary as a member, so you gotta figure I'd get bored eventually.

(note: I am posting this here and will most likely forget where I posted, thus not making me want to engage in further conversation on the topic. I feel that way about every thread I have posted in on this new board with the exception of maybe 2 or 3. That, to me, is this site's biggest problem.)

[Yves]

I can adapt well enough. I just don't like the new board, as I find it very cumbersome, over-complicated, and considerably less immediate than the old board. When you don't have a huge amount of time in the day to persue what's happening here that's important. And thank you to all those who suggest the only reason I might mention this is because I simply 'want to complain' about something. Tell you what, next time I discover something that Iused to enjoy a great deal, but has ben altered in a manner that is not to my taste I'll keep my mouth shut and humbly suggest that you do the same.

Yeah, I have to agree. Even when I do have time to post here, I rarely do. The site just doesn't "invite" me to do so. There are forums I have opened maybe once. There are way too many threads for me to try to keep up with. I have come to loathe the "group" feature. I truly feel this new board is designed for forum junkies, of which I am not. Long live PE in whatever form it takes, but I have become a fringe member now. Hell, February will mark my 10-year anniversary as a member, so you gotta figure I'd get bored eventually.

(note: I am posting this here and will most likely forget where I posted, thus not making me want to engage in further conversation on the topic. I feel that way about every thread I have posted in on this new board with the exception of maybe 2 or 3. That, to me, is this site's biggest problem.)

PS: You don't have to understand it Vic, just accept it as the opinion of certain members here. In fact, the older members seem to like this forum less than the "second wave" members who joined more recently. I do not think that is a mere coincidence.

[Duncan Glenday]

Get into the habit of "subscribing" to threads - then you won't have to remember where your posts are.

I'm tracking my posts in a few dozen different threads. I couldn't tell you what forum they're in, and I don't need to know either.

Pretty easy, really...

[NogbadTheBad]

Get into the habit of "subscribing" to threads - then you won't have to remember where your posts are.

I'm tracking my posts in a few dozen different threads. I couldn't tell you what forum they're in, and I don't need to know either.

Pretty easy, really...This is what I do, I go to Setting whenever I first get here & it shows all the threads I've posted in where there are new posts. Dead easy.

[firth5th]

If you're not here, please identify yourself.

[Vic2012]

Yeah, I have to agree. Even when I do have time to post here, I rarely do. The site just doesn't "invite" me to do so. There are forums I have opened maybe once. There are way too many threads for me to try to keep up with. I have come to loathe the "group" feature. I truly feel this new board is designed for forum junkies, of which I am not. Long live PE in whatever form it takes, but I have become a fringe member now. Hell, February will mark my 10-year anniversary as a member, so you gotta figure I'd get bored eventually.

(note: I am posting this here and will most likely forget where I posted, thus not making me want to engage in further conversation on the topic. I feel that way about every thread I have posted in on this new board with the exception of maybe 2 or 3. That, to me, is this site's biggest problem.)

PS: You don't have to understand it Vic, just accept it as the opinion of certain members here. In fact, the older members seem to like this forum less than the "second wave" members who joined more recently. I do not think that is a mere coincidence.

At first there was a bit of confusion. What thread did I post that on? What forum? WTF? I mainly stick to "New Posts." From there I'll check 3 or 4 threads in total (main board, site matters, WOT, and OT Music). I haven't gotten into all the extra features (groups, subscribing to theads, RSS Feeds, Chat). The simpler the better. I'm glad the birthday threads have their own forum. Great idea. I'm kind of on the fringe myself. I haven't even tried starting a thread. Okay so it'll take some time for some people to get used to it.

[sonic]

You can subscribe to a thread just as you could in PE2. Also, if you go to settings, you can set it up to automatically subscribe you to any thread you post in.

[Vic2012]

Tell you what, next time I discover something that Iused to enjoy a great deal, but has ben altered in a manner that is not to my taste I'll keep my mouth shut and humbly suggest that you do the same.

C'mon don't take it so personally Kid. I really meant no offense to anyone.

[firth5th]

I think there are too many forums to choose from. Isn't there several OT forums? Might be simpler to boil it down to two boards, the main one and one OT.

[Duncan Glenday]

When I get here - it's 2 clicks, and I can immediately see of there are any new posts on all of the threads I'm watching.

Sorry if that seems hard :meh

Then I hit "New Posts" - and if there's a thread I want to watch, I hit "Thread Tools" and "Subscribe To This Thread" - and it's added to my watch list.


Pretty easy, really...

;)

[Facelift]

. I have come to loathe the "group" feature. I truly feel this new board is designed for forum junkies, of which I am not. Long live PE in whatever form it takes, but I have become a fringe member now.

Well, I find PE3 to generally be an improvement, but I agree that the "group" feature was a real mistake.

[sonic]

When I get here - it's 2 clicks, and I can immediately see of there are any new posts on all of the threads I'm watching.

Sorry if that seems hard :meh

Then I hit "New Posts" - and if there's a thread I want to watch, I hit "Thread Tools" and "Subscribe To This Thread" - and it's added to my watch list.


Yeap. That's exactly what I do.

[Duncan Glenday]

Also ... if you hit "New Posts" - just scan the left-hand-side of the list for icons with a little green and white arrow. The arrow means that you have posted in that thread.

As I said ...


Pretty easy, really...

;)

[Jerjo]

If you go to "quick links" on the upper left menu and go to "subscribed threads" you'll see all of your threads, everything you've commented in.

[moecurlythanu]

Long live PE in whatever form it takes, but I have become a fringe member now.

You're in good company. Daniel Boone was a fringe guy too.

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[Gruno]

Get into the habit of "subscribing" to threads - then you won't have to remember where your posts are.

I'm tracking my posts in a few dozen different threads. I couldn't tell you what forum they're in, and I don't need to know either.

Pretty easy, really...

Very easy. Once you change your setting to auto-subscribe to the threads you reply to, you are set.

[Gruno]

When I get here - it's 2 clicks, and I can immediately see of there are any new posts on all of the threads I'm watching.

Sorry if that seems hard :meh


"How Many Clicks Does It Take?"

[Trane]

Get into the habit of "subscribing" to threads - then you won't have to remember where your posts are.

I'm tracking my posts in a few dozen different threads. I couldn't tell you what forum they're in, and I don't need to know either.

Pretty easy, really...

This is what I do, I go to Setting whenever I first get here & it shows all the threads I've posted in where there are new posts. Dead easy.


Yeah, I've done that at first.... but even sunbscribing to a thread is so much more complicated (well it's not complicated per se, but it's click and time consuming) than the good old bookmark check on 2.0...

It happened there that I bookmarked (one click) a thread before even opening it, just to make sure I'd remember to check it out later and if I didn't want to keep it, one click and it was a goner...
No way I'll do that here given the many superfluous clicks it takes to do the same...

[NogbadTheBad]

Yeah, I've done that at first.... but even sunbscribing to a thread is so much more complicated (well it's not complicated per se, but it's click and time consuming) than the good old bookmark check on 2.0...

It happened there that I bookmarked (one click) a thread before even opening it, just to make sure I'd remember to check it out later and if I didn't want to keep it, one click and it was a goner...
No way I'll do that here given the many superfluous clicks it takes to do the same...You can change your settings to auto subscribe any threads you post in. There are zero extra clicks. It has no complication.

[moecurlythanu]

No way I'll do that here given the many superfluous clicks it takes to do the same...

I've asked for a hand exerciser for Christmas. Soon these clicks will be a breeze! Right now...man, I'm outta shape!

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[Trane]

You can change your settings to auto subscribe any threads you post in. There are zero extra clicks. It has no complication.

Actually I didn't know that, thanks... How does one go about that?? in my profile settings??

Not that I'd want auto-subscribe to threads like BLT or this one... ;)

[Trane]

I've asked for a hand exerciser for Christmas. Soon these clicks will be a breeze! Right now...man, I'm outta shape!

811

Laugh all you want, but as a prevention officer in my research institute, we've got five colleagues with RMS (repeated movement syndrome) due to mouse clicks... and they've yet to discover PE 3.0 :p

[moecurlythanu]

Laugh all you want, but as a prevention officer in my research institute, we've got five colleagues with RMS (repeated movement syndrome) due to mouse clicks... and they've yet to discover PE 3.0 :p

Well then...The Hand Exerciser makes a great Christmas gift!

You can thank me later.

[NogbadTheBad]

Actually I didn't know that, thanks... How does one go about that?? in my profile settings??

Not that I'd want auto-subscribe to threads like BLT or this one... ;)Setting - General Setting - Default Thread Subscription Mode - Via Control Panel Only

[Trane]

Setting - General Setting - Default Thread Subscription Mode - Via Control Panel Only

OK, I'll see if I find it more manageable that way... thanks ;)

[sonic]

I've asked for a hand exerciser for Christmas. Soon these clicks will be a breeze! Right now...man, I'm outta shape!

811
:lol
I've got one of those. I'll have to dig it out so I can keep up with the arduous task of clicking my way through PE3. ;)

[nosebone]

Yeah, I have to agree. Even when I do have time to post here, I rarely do. The site just doesn't "invite" me to do so. There are forums I have opened maybe once. There are way too many threads for me to try to keep up with. I have come to loathe the "group" feature. I truly feel this new board is designed for forum junkies, of which I am not. Long live PE in whatever form it takes, but I have become a fringe member now. Hell, February will mark my 10-year anniversary as a member, so you gotta figure I'd get bored eventually.

(note: I am posting this here and will most likely forget where I posted, thus not making me want to engage in further conversation on the topic. I feel that way about every thread I have posted in on this new board with the exception of maybe 2 or 3. That, to me, is this site's biggest problem.)


PS: You don't have to understand it Vic, just accept it as the opinion of certain members here. In fact, the older members seem to like this forum less than the "second wave" members who joined more recently. I do not think that is a mere coincidence.


I'm on the same page.

I joined ten years ago also, and a lot of the excitement has dissipated.


I could write a book about Yes and Genesis at this point.:lol

[Poisoned Youth]

In fact, the older members seem to like this forum less than the "second wave" members who joined more recently. I do not think that is a mere coincidence.

I'm not so sure this is a factual correlation. I think the majority of people old and new have come to enjoy - or at least accept the PEv3 experience. And for many others, the move from PEv2 to v3 was about as important to them as their next bowel movement.

I'd classify those having trouble with or not comfortable with PEv3 at this point in three categories:

1) They just hate change - period. (Who, prog fans?!?!?)

2) They were habitual users of the PMs, for which the groups have not become an adequate replacement.

3) They are like nestor or a few others, almost being intentionally contrarian.


I think your case, I feel like you're going through what I did when many of us shifted from RMP (and Usenet) and AIM chats to PE years ago. Not everyone is willing to or is interest in changing over from one system to the next.

[Yves]

Hey! I found this thread again! ;)

I used to combine forums and find thread immediately. Now I am sifting through sub-menus etc... I find that a bit more tedious. I do not totally dislike this version, but I feel less compelled to post since the switch.

[progeezer]

I know he registered on v3, but Yanks has been conspicuously silent for a while.

No childish jokes now, all my fellow liberals:lol.

[Scott Bails]

I'd classify those having trouble with or not comfortable with PEv3 at this point in three categories:


2) They were habitual users of the PMs, for which the groups have not become an adequate replacement.




I was a very vocal, very big fan of the PMs on the old site, and I really like that we have a 3rd forum (or more) to discuss that kind of stuff.


And I have no problem at all using groups. It would be a major improvement if they would behave like the public forum, but it's really not that big of a deal.

[NogbadTheBad]

Hey! I found this thread again! ;)

I used to combine forums and find thread immediately. Now I am sifting through sub-menus etc... I find that a bit more tedious. I do not totally dislike this version, but I feel less compelled to post since the switch.Yves, you should really try subscribing to threads you post in. I hardly ever navigate via forums as Settings shows me all the threads I'm in with new posts and New Posts shows me everything else. Two place are all I need for everything.

[Duncan Glenday]

Hey! I found this thread again! ;)

...Now I am sifting through sub-menus etc... I find that a bit more tedious...

Is there a reason you won't do what I've suggested?

I can get to the newest post in this thread, regardless of what page it's on, with 2 clicks.

Scroll up and read (and heed) my suggestions.

PM me if you need details.

[100423]

Yves, you should really try subscribing to threads you post in. I hardly ever navigate via forums as Settings shows me all the threads I'm in with new posts and New Posts shows me everything else. Two place are all I need for everything.

Yep.

[Gruno]

Yeah, I've done that at first.... but even sunbscribing to a thread is so much more complicated (well it's not complicated per se, but it's click and time consuming) than the good old bookmark check on 2.0...

It happened there that I bookmarked (one click) a thread before even opening it, just to make sure I'd remember to check it out later and if I didn't want to keep it, one click and it was a goner...
No way I'll do that here given the many superfluous clicks it takes to do the same...

I do wonder which is more time consuming in your case: clicking around the board or complaining about clicking around the board.

[Mick]

Subscribing to threads is by far the easiest access because it is automatic..
Once it's set up, no more clicks are really required to start reading posts,
especially if you've already set up PEv3 with "new threads" as the opening page.
Merely click "quick links" then "subscribed threads" to see ALL the threads you've either subscribed to or have posted in...
any NEW postings are shown in bold print at the top.
So yes, it's just TWO clicks to find ANY thread, once you've logged in.
BTW, did anyone figure out how to turn planet Earth yet?

[Trane]

1) They just hate change - period. (Who, prog fans?!?!?)

2) They were habitual users of the PMs, for which the groups have not become an adequate replacement.

3) They are like nestor or a few others, almost being intentionally contrarian.


none of the above m'lord...

sincerely trying, but struggling to find a good deal of the positive points some are hailing...

[Jerjo]

Hmm, I haven't seen Thomas in a while either. Hopefully he's just being contrary and not having some medical issue.

[sonic]

sincerely trying, but struggling to find a good deal of the positive points some are hailing...
Positive points: last viewed post function, text Editing, adding links, adding video (adding photos is not so straight forward until you know what you're doing).
Negative: Subscribed threads are 2 clicks away instead on one (PE2); subscribing to a new thread you haven't posted in takes several clicks instead of one; threads will disappear from 'New Posts' after you look at it. So unless you subscribed, if you want to find that thread again you'll have to go through the sub menus.

[Hunnibee]

Hmm, I haven't seen Thomas in a while either. Hopefully he's just being contrary and not having some medical issue.

Does anyone have his phone number, or knows where he lives to go check on him?! Now you've got me worried.

[Trane]

adding photos is not so straight forward until you know what you're doing

Negative:
Subscribed threads are 2 clicks away instead on one (PE2); >> I'll learn to live with that ;)
subscribing to a new thread you haven't posted in takes several clicks instead of one; >> same with un-subscribing
threads will disappear from 'New Posts' after you look at it. So unless you subscribed, if you want to find that thread again you'll have to go through the sub menus. >> That's one of the thing I was wondering about... thanks for letting me on this strange quirk >> though it's not a bad option per se: if you've read it up, it shouldn't be a problem and you'll see it again if more posts are entered or next time you'll log in



Adding pictures is theoretically much easier in 3.0 than on 2.0 if the system works correctly... You don't need to rely on some stupid photobucket site (and having to load your piccies there).... That's an immemse plus... however if the system works correctly (though the sizing is still an issue >> it's often either way too big or miniscule) on normal threads from both work and home.... it's not the case in groups >> it works fine at work and not at home, only offering an URL possibility...

Ex: how do I post on NSFW from photobucket since photobucket censors the least amount of nudity and takes the incriminated pictures away

I'll give you another weird quirk of mine >> i was so used in writing out the smileys in 2.0 that I still do so in 3.0 and don't use the normally easy selection on the side

[Trane]

Yves, you should really try subscribing to threads you post in. I hardly ever navigate via forums as Settings shows me all the threads I'm in with new posts and New Posts shows me everything else. Two place are all I need for everything.

you're basically right, though it's not as simple as that >> finding a thread (even one subscribed to) that has no new posts is a bit more fastidious >> having to go to that feature

and you'll need to check out the groups (I think you're often participating often there) as well, unless the settings was to warn you of new posts there (not sure it does)

[Vic2012]

Is Chris from Cleveland around? I forgot his screen name on old PE, but I'd know a post by him easily. People rib him a lot for starting a lot of his paragraphs with "actually" :lol (as if he's the only one that does that). Anyway, hope he isn't one of the stubborn diehards that hasn't migrated over.

[Trane]

Does anyone have his phone number, or knows where he lives to go check on him?! Now you've got me worried.

He posted last night on the Sabbath thread... I'd tend to think he(Tom)'s being contrary or busier than usual, but nothing like Nestor >> he's nearing annoying with hs stubborness (and I like Nessie)

[Vic2012]

He posted last night on the Sabbath thread... ................ (and I like Nessie)

Yeah, I've seen Thomas around a lot. I kinda like Nessie too. Whenever I see someone get ganged up on and labelled "troll" I usually like them (because everyone else hates 'em). But there's always at least one or two exceptions to that rule. No matter how much you feel sorry for them being picked on, they (the troll) seem to enjoy the attention ;).

[Poisoned Youth]

Does anyone have his phone number, or knows where he lives to go check on him?!

He's been posting here. I'm sure he's okay. But here's his last known address...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m79quw2N6W1qeqsgmo1_500.jpg


Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

[NogbadTheBad]

you're basically right, though it's not as simple as that >> finding a thread (even one subscribed to) that has no new posts is a bit more fastidious >> having to go to that feature

and you'll need to check out the groups (I think you're often participating often there) as well, unless the settings was to warn you of new posts there (not sure it does)Under Settings you can also see Groups you subscribe to with new posts, the Group name is shown in bold if there are new posts.

I agree that it's tougher to find a thread that you haven't posted in that has no new posts for a bit, but that's a pretty small selection, and you still had to go onto page 2 or 3 on PE2 to find those. The search function is excellent so if you know a word in the title it's pretty easy to find.

[Scott Bails]

Is Chris from Cleveland around? I forgot his screen name on old PE, but I'd know a post by him easily. People rib him a lot for starting a lot of his paragraphs with "actually" :lol (as if he's the only one that does that). Anyway, hope he isn't one of the stubborn diehards that hasn't migrated over.

Assuming you're talking about Silver Shoes, I believe he's Guitar Geek now.

Definitely a name that fits! ;)

[moecurlythanu]

Adding pictures is theoretically much easier in 3.0 than on 2.0 if the system works correctly.. (though the sizing is still an issue >> it's often either way too big or miniscule)


The pictures only seem to be too small. If you put your cursor over the pic, it will give name, number of views, and size. If you then click on the pic, it acts like a thumbnail, and opens up a larger and much more viewable pic on the same page you are viewing. I think it's a pretty cool feature. No more side bar scrolling!

[Duncan Glenday]

Does anyone have his phone number, or knows where he lives to go check on him?! Now you've got me worried.

You can easily see whether a person has been around recently.

- Find them. (Go to an old post, do a search to find them, look them up in the members list ... and there are a few other ways to find them.)

- Click on their name or avatar.

- Click "Find Latest posts"

[Jerjo]

Last photo taken of Nestor and Mitty:

http://olympicfanatic.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/statler-waldorf.jpg

[80s were ok]

are Nestor and Nessie the same person?

[moecurlythanu]

If you mean Nessy da Monsta, or whatever, no.

[Scott Bails]

Though they share the same views on the current iteration of Yes.

[Vic2012]

Assuming you're talking about Silver Shoes, I believe he's Guitar Geek now.

Definitely a name that fits! ;)

I had a feeling that was him.

[Klonk]

I'm on the same page.

I joined ten years ago also, and a lot of the excitement has dissipated.

I'm in the same boat entirely with you and Yves. No disrespect as I know the change needed to be done, but to me there's no charm anymore. Even with all the navigation tips it's tedious and a drag.

The whole 'groups' thing gets a big :down but I did check out chat one night and that is excellent.

Sorry if this offends, but I'm disappointed.

[Gruno]

You can easily see whether a person has been around recently.

- Find them. (Go to an old post, do a search to find them, look them up in the members list ... and there are a few other ways to find them.)

- Click on their name or avatar.

- Click "Find Latest posts"

I hope you realize that you just added more clicks for the Click Mafia to campaign against! :yell

[100423]

Clicks or cliques be damned at this place!

[Gruno]

Hey, why does 100423 have a post count of 1 ????

[Trane]

are Nestor and Nessie the same person?


I guess that's my fuck up, sorry ... I tend to refer to Nestor as Nessie when he's in a saurian mood like he's been over 3.0

[Hobo Chang Ba]

I'm in the same boat entirely with you and Yves. No disrespect as I know the change needed to be done, but to me there's no charm anymore. Even with all the navigation tips it's tedious and a drag.

The whole 'groups' thing gets a big :down but I did check out chat one night and that is excellent.

Sorry if this offends, but I'm disappointed.

Stop having opinions that are different than the majority, would you... ;)

[Duncan Glenday]

Hey, why does 100423 have a post count of 1 ????

He doesn't.








any more ;)

[100423]

He doesn't.








any more ;)

Damn! I was the only one for a while! :D

[Hunnibee]

Damn! I was the only one for a while! :D

Maybe they were using you as a guinea pig for post count testing!

[Scott Bails]

I guess that's my fuck up, sorry ... I tend to refer to Nestor as Nessie when he's in a saurian mood like he's been over 3.0

You mean, like, always?

[Gruno]

He doesn't.

any more ;)

Why you little... I oughtta... ;)

What happened?

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/goblynzgroove/misc/postcount_zps45df60c0.png


I guess that's my fuck up, sorry ... I tend to refer to Nestor as Nessie when he's in a saurian mood like he's been over 3.0


You mean, like, always?

:)

[Duncan Glenday]

What happened?

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/goblynzgroove/misc/postcount_zps45df60c0.png


The post counts were only disabled a few days after we opened the site. A few counts snuck in while we weren't looking.

[moecurlythanu]

The post counts were only disabled a few days after we opened the site. A few counts snuck in while we weren't looking.

Count Dracula made a living off of that shit.

[progeezer]

Count Five had a psychotic reaction to that shit.

[Yves]

Clicks or cliques be damned at this place!

Not singling out the poster here, but this sort of comment has been made several times on this board and I need to comment. I can respect that some would rather post anonymously or that others live in more "prog-isolated" areas which do not allow them to travel to festivals and meet others from this board. But for others, it is a different situation. We met virtually on this board, found many things in common beyond music, met in person for certain events, got to become "flesh and blood" friends. Therefore, it is only logical to conclude that the manner of our posts towards each other would change. Inside jokes would start creeping into our posts. We would want to start PMs or groups to continue to cultivate our friendships. To me, that is the raison d'etre of a board such as this one. So if that is the definition of "clique" then I say the abolition of cliques be damned at this place. If some of you are unwilling or incapable of making friends, then don't take it out on those who are. If this board eliminated the sort of friendly banter that flies around here between members of "cliques", then this site would be a sterile and dull place indeed.

[Vic2012]

Good post Yves. Good points made. I might be one of those isolated ones you refer to so that's why I've never been able to warm up to most of you guys beyond just the usual, anonymous banter and music talk. But I agree with you. When you know people personally that post here the friendships are on another level. It's been an interesting experinment for me, knowing a few of you for ten years or so, never meeting in person, never talking on the phone, etc. Just text on a screen and some pics here and there. Now, the whole pet peeve thing about private threads is probably because I'm isolated and far away from all the action and comraderie you guys feel. That's why I like this new PE better. It may not function better than old PE, but I think it's formatted better. Unless the topics are hard politics, religion, sex, etc. there really shouldn't be any underground, "private" communities." That's just my opinion and my preference. No else has to agree with that.

Anyway, I feel I need to apologize to you if I've been a little antagonistic recently. I never thought the migration from old to new was gonna be so troublesome for some people. It really caught me by surprise. Like I said before, I give this place a KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) and it works fine enough.

[Yves]

No worries Vic. As you stated, we go back to the old ProgNet days together. I never dreamed that those early posts would lead to the things I've done and the people I've met in the decade or so since. For example, I remember first hearing about NF back in '99. It was all the way in PA. No way did I think I'd ever get to see one. I ended up going to 4. When I joined PE in 2003, I had never met anybody from this board, not even proggers from my city. Today, I can look at a PE photo taken from NF or FMPM, and instantly start pointing out dozens of PE members that I have engaged in conversation or who have become friends I communicate with almost daily. I don't think Sean or Lee ever envisioned just how far reaching, and dare I say somewhat life-changing, their old Yahoo message board would be. That is the strength of PE. To want to eliminate that in order to just have very strict "prog talk" would suck all the fun out of this place, imo.

[Jay G]

Just found out my son has not yet migrated over to the new PE. I also don't think a couple of the guys from my guitar forum migrated over yet.

[Brian Griffin]

At some point on the boards I've been a part of, everyone has pretty much said what they have to say and moves on

The PFM board from years back was a good example, it had absolutely great discussion for a couple of years, but got to a "saturation point" and withered pretty quickly from there.

Towards the end of PE2 I had the impression it was heading there honestly, but if anything the new board has kind breathed some new life into it, for me anyway

BG

[Klonk]

I have met Yves in person and was surprised to find out that he sounded more like my mechanic than Gerard Depardieu.

[Brian Griffin]

I have met Yves in person and was surprised to find out that he sounded more like my mechanic than Gerard Depardieu.

Do you drive a Peugeot?

BG

[Klonk]

I can't even say that word.

[Yves]

"Na-Na-Na-Napa know how, Napa know how..."

[progeezer]

Not singling out the poster here, but this sort of comment has been made several times on this board and I need to comment. I can respect that some would rather post anonymously or that others live in more "prog-isolated" areas which do not allow them to travel to festivals and meet others from this board. But for others, it is a different situation. We met virtually on this board, found many things in common beyond music, met in person for certain events, got to become "flesh and blood" friends. Therefore, it is only logical to conclude that the manner of our posts towards each other would change. Inside jokes would start creeping into our posts. We would want to start PMs or groups to continue to cultivate our friendships. To me, that is the raison d'etre of a board such as this one. So if that is the definition of "clique" then I say the abolition of cliques be damned at this place. If some of you are unwilling or incapable of making friends, then don't take it out on those who are. If this board eliminated the sort of friendly banter that flies around here between members of "cliques", then this site would be a sterile and dull place indeed.My closest friends on the planet as I grow old & approach the great white light/nothingness (take your pick) are the "flesh & blood" friends I initially met on PE over the last 6 plus years, and those I subsequently met through them. They're scattered all over the world & not just the USA, and they are making my "golden years":p a hell of a lot of fun (that I wouldn't have had were it not for PE). Yes, this is a prog music site, but whether intended or not, it's a hell of a lot more to a lot of people.

Long live small private groups of close "more than virtual" friends!:up

[Adrian]

I'm also puzzled by Nestor. He's the last person I would have thought would cling to PE 2.0. Whatever. No doubt he's here lurking under a new name.

:lol I didn't realize that stupid troll was clinging to PE 2.0. Just went over there and looked at him spewing his nonsense. Whatever. This place will be better off if that disgusting piece of garbage never migrates to this site.

Not really surprised that he'd be a Luddite, though. I think he still pines for the unmoderated days of RMP, where he could be as huge of a dick as he wanted to with no one around to check him. Let him wither away along with Usenet, if that's what he wants. No skin off my nose.

[80s were ok]

just went to the old forums and they are gone now.

[Gruno]

just went to the old forums and they are gone now.

That is because you are banned from PEv2.0

PEv2.0 is still alive... for now.

[80s were ok]

That is because you are banned from PEv2.0

PEv2.0 is still alive... for now.

um, nice try. And frankly it wouldn't matter anyway. There are basically no posts (of merit) on PE2 anyway.

[Scott Bails]

Anyone know if Phil79 is here?

I usually see him on the hockey and baseball threads.

[moecurlythanu]

just went to the old forums and they are gone now.

Not if you click on Mobile.

[Trane]

just went to the old forums and they are gone now.

saw that too, but it's not the first time it happened >>> It's like a fuse vblowing because tioo few posts being posted
the Admins have reinstated it before...

[Duncan Glenday]

...the Admins have reinstated it before...

Actually ... not.

It's a relatively new problem that our old ISP doesn't understand - they feel we've done something to the site, yet it goes away by itself after a while. That's just one of the many reasons we had to dump PEv2 and create this site.

We haven't fought with the ISP about the issue because (1) we're on PEv3 now, (2) in the event of emergency there's still PE-Mobile, and (3) we will be shutting down the forums on PEv2 any day now anyway.

[Trane]

Oddly enough, I find myself still typing out the smileys (like in 2.0) instead of clicking on the function above and selecting one...

Does anyone still do that???

[Vic2012]

Oddly enough, I find myself still typing out the smileys (like in 2.0) instead of clicking on the function above and selecting one...

Does anyone still do that???

Yup. I still use the same smileys (the ones that work) here that I used there. The one that I've typed out a few times that doesn't works is :horns ..... :lol I like :horns + :bad.

[Scott Bails]

Oddly enough, I find myself still typing out the smileys (like in 2.0) instead of clicking on the function above and selecting one...

Does anyone still do that???

I do.


We need more emoticons here.

[sonic]

We lost the troll (banned). Let's hope he doesn't come back.

[-=RTFR666=-]

We lost the troll (banned). Let's hope he doesn't come back.

Which one? Lord knows there's a shortlist to tackle at present *cough*jymbot*cough* *cough*cough* 80s*cough*cough*

[sonic]

Which one? Lord knows there's a shortlist to tackle at present *cough*jymbot*cough* *cough*cough* 80s*cough*cough*
One down, one to go. ;)

[Duncan Glenday]

We need more emoticons here.

A PE member has volunteered to help develop a full suite of matching smileys specially for this site.

When they're completed, we'll deploy them both here and in the chat room.

[80s were ok]

One down, one to go. ;)

don't talk about yourself like that.

[80s were ok]

Which one? Lord knows there's a shortlist to tackle at present *cough*jymbot*cough* *cough*cough* 80s*cough*cough*

love you too.

[Amy]

A PE member has volunteered to help develop a full suite of matching smileys specially for this site.

When they're completed, we'll deploy them both here and in the chat room.

Good news! Sometimes you need...just...the right...one. :)

[100423]

One down, one to go. ;)

I'm not sure I understand the gleeful response to someone getting banned. I don't always like the way someone people act around here, but it's the different styles that keep it interesting for me. Maybe I missed a post that was too "over the top".

People who I miss seeing posting on PEv3.0 (either entirely or far less...)

Chalkpie
Avestin
Just Eric
Luis Nasser

[80s were ok]

I'm not sure I understand the gleeful response to someone getting banned.

some people on here take themselves seriously and yes, enjoy seeing people get banned. It's sad, but usually someone wants to see someone else get banned because they hold different opinions. Just look at the last few posts to be who really should be the ones getting banned. I mean if three out of five of your posts are "so and so should be banned"...well, then that person should be banned. But whatever, I don't care who is banned or not banned unless you have someone who disrespects everyone or starts on tirades about sects of people, religions, etc. That type of talk is grounds for banning.

[sonic]

I'm not sure I understand the gleeful response to someone getting banned. I don't always like the way someone people act around here, but it's the different styles that keep it interesting for me. Maybe I missed a post that was too "over the top".

I asure you the person who was banned deserved it. He was insulting many posters on a frequent basis. Posters like that can end up being a parasite that destroy entire forums. I hope it doesn't happen here.

[Scott Bails]

A PE member has volunteered to help develop a full suite of matching smileys specially for this site.

When they're completed, we'll deploy them both here and in the chat room.

NICE! :up

[Jerjo]

Hey, at least we don't have the indecipherable rantings of Jegheist. |)

[Adrian]

I'm not sure I understand the gleeful response to someone getting banned.

I'd be gleeful if one person from the old site got banned. Hopefully it was him.

[Gruno]

Oddly enough, I find myself still typing out the smileys (like in 2.0) instead of clicking on the function above and selecting one...

Wasting more clicks! Click! Click!! Click!!!


I asure you the person who was banned deserved it. He was insulting many posters on a frequent basis.

Who was banned?

[100423]

Who was banned?

I'm assuming it was jymbot as his name is no longer on the members list.

[80s were ok]

I'm assuming it was jymbot as his name is no longer on the members list.

wow, some of his posts were rambling and nonsensical but I never saw anything ban-worthy. Then again, I don't go into every single thread either.

[Poisoned Youth]

I'm not sure I understand the gleeful response to someone getting banned. I don't always like the way someone people act around here, but it's the different styles that keep it interesting for me. Maybe I missed a post that was too "over the top".

People who I miss seeing posting on PEv3.0 (either entirely or far less...)

Chalkpie
Avestin
Just Eric
Luis Nasser

PE operates best when people are respectful to each other. Obviously this won't be the case all the time. But I can certainly see when someone disrupts this site in some way why, after they are banned, people would express relief about it.


As far as the list of people you mention, outside of Luis (who can come off abrasive), there's no connection between their personality and their frequency of posting on PE. I have no idea where Assaf is. I appreciated him personally because he had his pulse on today's scene. Maybe he got tired of talking about music that most people didn't care about. :)

As far as Eric goes, I haven't seen him around lately, but he wasn't posting on the main boards of PEv2 very often over the last few years that I recall.

[Poisoned Youth]

Hey, at least we don't have the indecipherable rantings of Jegheist. |)

I'm not 100% positive, but you might want to check again. :)

[Gruno]

Who was banned?


I'm assuming it was jymbot as his name is no longer on the members list.


I found this:

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/goblynzgroove/misc/ban_zps9efbbfa9.png

I started this thread to hopefully get the lowdown -- (non-drama version, of course ;)

http://www.progressiveears.org/forum/showthread.php/1405-Banned-from-PE

[100423]

As far as the list of people you mention, outside of Luis (who can come off abrasive), there's no connection between their personality and their frequency of posting on PE. I have no idea where Assaf is. I appreciated him personally because he had his pulse on today's scene. Maybe he got tired of talking about music that most people didn't care about. :)

As far as Eric goes, I haven't seen him around lately, but he wasn't posting on the main boards of PEv2 very often over the last few years that I recall.

I wasn't implying that they weren't active because of people's reactions to them. :)
It was more of a separate subject thrown in the same post.

[Poisoned Youth]

Ahh, no problem.

[moecurlythanu]

I fully understand why Walter was banned, but I think he could have been an asset to the board. His knowledge is extensive, and to be honest, he was much more well behaved than he has been in the past on other boards, (and perhaps PE2, I don't know if I was paying much attention when he was on PE2.)

Just curious- I saw one post where Duncan replied sternly to him and a large number 3 was in the post. I took that to be the start of a countdown to banning, as in 3...2...1. But were any private warnings issued about modifying his behavior, or anything like that? I know we have a ToS, and you shouldn't need to hold people's hand, but it's still a question I have. I'm guessing because of past behavior, the ice where he trod was a little thinner, and that too is understandable. The reason I ask is that on a discussion group yesterday, he posted that he did not know the reason for the banning.

[Scott Bails]

I found the guy to be incredibly insulting and condescending, but could never tell if it was an act or if he was serious.

Of course, there are others here who I know are serious and are just as insulting and condescending, and they're still here.


Who knows, how all of this stuff works...

[Jerjo]

I'm not 100% positive, but you might want to check again. :)

Fuck! What next, the return of the Omega Monkey? I heard if you say that three times he appears.

[-=RTFR666=-]

Of course, there are others here who I know are serious and are just as insulting and condescending, and they're still here...

QFT. I'd speculate that the nudge over the cliff for this one particular member might have had something to do with the incredibly offensive NSFW graphics that typically accompanied every assault. (Now, if the mods could only eradicate his garbage from the prog memes thread...)

[willyswing]

I'm here, & I don't like it much (the site, not the people).

[LASERCD]

I fully understand why Walter was banned, but I think he could have been an asset to the board. His knowledge is extensive, and to be honest, he was much more well behaved than he has been in the past on other boards, (and perhaps PE2, I don't know if I was paying much attention when he was on PE2.)


Mark:

History has shown that Walter self-immolates on any forum or discussion group he posts on. Sure he could have been an asset to the board but that doesn't seem to be of interest as his egocentricity won't allow it. That's not his agenda. For all the deep knowledge he supposedly has when does he find the time to impart it? Why does someone have to be "more" well behaved? Why can't they just be well behaved? He lasted longer than I expected and thankfully he was kind enough to not adopt that fake dialect nonsense. At least this go around his stay here was marginally more pleasant and I'll even admit sometimes humorous. He's probably a pisser to be around in person but it doesn't seem to translate over the 'net.

[progeezer]

I'm pretty much in step with what Ken's saying, Mark.

[Gruno]

History has shown that Walter self-immolates on any forum or discussion group he posts on.

Anyone care to share the history? I am unaware of this person except for his recent postings here.

[moecurlythanu]

I can't take issue with anything Ken (or Steve) said. Just was looking for info and wondering aloud if a different approach might have led to a different outcome.

[Trane]

Yup. I still use the same smileys (the ones that work) here that I used there. The one that I've typed out a few times that doesn't works is :horns ..... :lol I like :horns + :bad.

wasn't that :devil or :evil ???

One that has changed slightly is the tongue smiley... it went from a capital P to a lowercase p



Wasting more clicks! Click! Click!! Click!!!


Actually not!!! :up

Typing them out avoids needless clicks :p

I try to remember useful KB shortcuts, once I decide ti-o type something

[Trane]

Anyone care to share the history? I am unaware of this person except for his recent postings here.

If it is indeed the wallace of a few years back (PA & PE) that we speak of, the guy is a real weirdo... apprently he really needs to get himself a life too... though his Jymbot incarnation was more intelligible than wallace ever was...

But I didn't think he was Canadian, though...

==============

BTW, I don't think 80's is troll material... despite rarely being on the same wavelength, he's (almost) ok

[Gruno]

If it is indeed the wallace of a few years back (PA & PE) that we speak of, the guy is a real weirdo... apprently he really needs to get himself a life too... though his Jymbot incarnation was more intelligible than wallace ever was...

But I didn't think he was Canadian, though...

But what is his pattern? All I saw were his strange ramblings. Almost seemed obsessed with using words/phrases that others couldn't follow.

Also, he kept posting images of some old, haggard man; was that him?

[Trane]

But what is his pattern? All I saw were his strange ramblings. Almost seemed obsessed with using words/phrases that others couldn't follow.

Also, he kept posting images of some old, haggard man; was that him?

It used to be much worse in the wallace days... he tried to sound/write as if he was an old Welsh dude that had never left his valley for all his life and never learned English... Never cared to try to understand him back then... Though a bit weird Jymbot didn't seem to be quite that bad...

if jymbot = wallace, then the man's medical treatment is working... ;)

[80s were ok]

I just want to know what JEMMIAH was or whatever that term was that he always used.

[Hunnibee]

One that has changed slightly is the tongue smiley...

Hee hee... "tongue smiley"... hee hee

:p

[Trane]

I just want to know what JEMMIAH was or whatever that term was that he always used.

I'm not sure I want to... Don't care to, anyways... ;)



I have no idea where Assaf is. I appreciated him personally because he had his pulse on today's scene. Maybe he got tired of talking about music that most people didn't care about. :)



Assaf has not been posting regularly in PA as well (just checked >> last visit Dec 4th), so most likely, it's not related to PE and it's not formula (but this doesn't make it less worrysome >> it could be more important than wearryness)... Yeah, he was/is very much on the beat of new stuff

[scags]

Where's Johnny Quest when we(don't) need him?

[Yves]

I think you should all be banned.

[spacefreak]

We lost the troll (banned). Let's hope he doesn't come back.

The "troll" was knowlegeable. And he could open the ears to many Genesis/Rush noobs on a thing or two...

I personally can tolerate any amount of agit/prop, as extreme as it might get. Even Walter's, who I guess plays the role of an agent provocateur on a secret mission (from the Gods of Prog probably ;) )

[NogbadTheBad]

The "troll" was knowlegeable. And he could open the ears to many Genesis/Rush noobs on a thing or two...

I personally can tolerate any amount of agit/prop, as extreme as it might get.Well this is the question really isn't it? Clearly different people have different tolerances for BS. Some are hyper sensitive, some could care less, and everyone else is somewhere in between.

I think the Mods do a wonderful job here balancing the banter to make this place vibrant and interesting rather than boring and placid without the nonsense going over the top. There are going to be people who differ on the banning on both sides of the argument. I'll trust the Mods to get the balance right, they have a history of showing good judgement.