Times have changed, eh?

[wideopenears]

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[Scott Bails]

Wow. That's pretty cool, woe

[wideopenears]

I thought so, too...found it on a bass forum....posted it to FB, and here. Cracks me up.

[JKL2000]

LOL! "We can't use the word 'Bitches'!"

BTW, the Neil Young Archive 1 box has some cool stuff like this, like a letter to his mother from the music publisher. He was too young to sign his own contract, so his mother has to sign it for him. The letter is very cute - the woman from the music publisher says something like "You should be very proud of your son. He is a young gentleman."

[Wisdomview]

Sweet!

[3LockBox]

Times have changed, eh?

yes, fall back one hour

[Progmatic]

There was an article yesterday on auction of Rock memorabilia. John Lennon mail to Eric Clapton is expected to fatch around $30-40k.

[nosebone]

I like that..thanks!

[3LockBox]

Sprung ahead yet?

[GuitarGeek]

Here's Alien Planetscapes' rejection letter from Geffen Records (I kept getting an "invalid URL" error message when I tried to post the image itself). Yes, that's right, Doug Walker got it in his head to send demos out to the majors, and this was one of the responses:

http://www.alienplanetscapes.com/Images/Geffen%20Reject%20letter%2088.jpg

I recall Doug telling me he was told by one A&R guy (apparently from a different label, he didn't say which one) that they were told that (paraphrasing Doug's quote here) "Nobody's going to buy art rock made by black people from Brooklyn".

[rcarlberg]

Well he's right you know -- Doug Walker is in his own little world!

But I'm curious about the first post -- why do you say "Times have changed"? Miles was a big name in '69, if he wanted the album called "Fuck You Whitey" they'd have probably done that.

[Mister Triscuits]

Miles was a big name in '69, if he wanted the album called "Fuck You Whitey" they'd have probably done that.

He was a big name, all right, but that doesn't mean the record companies, who have both eyes on what's commercial, are going to give him carte blanche. Even the Beatles and the Stones had their album covers and titles censored. (Seen a copy of Could You Walk on the Water lately?) Columbia was actually pretty hip to go along with Bitches Brew in 1969.

[nosebone]

Well he's right you know -- Miles was a big name in '69, if he wanted the album called "Fuck You Whitey" they'd have probably done that.

No way. Not in 68.

[mogrooves]

Miles had little clout at Columbia by the late 60s; he was threatened with release if he didn't start selling some records. Hence, Bitches Brew (and a significant publicity campaign).....

[trurl]

Miles was a big name in '69, if he wanted the album called "Fuck You Whitey" they'd have probably done that.

I'm pretty sure that was his first choice.

[WHORG]

This is the weekend we move our cocks forward.

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[notallwhowander]

Times have changed, eh?

Take off, you hoser.

[trurl]

Beauty eh.

[Reginod]

If Miles had lived to 2000, he'd have done an updated hip-hop version called Bitches and Ho's.

[iguana]

insert accordingly: BITCHES BE LIKE _____________________________

[Trane]

LOL! "We can't use the word 'Bitches'!"


Given the return of politically correct and a serious return of pendulum on freedom of speech, Bitches would probably pass much harder nowadays than in the early 70's



But I'm curious about the first post -- why do you say "Times have changed"? Miles was a big name in '69, if he wanted the album called "Fuck You Whitey" they'd have probably done that.

Naaah, not that one... Though there was plenty of reverse racism (however justified it was given the context), that wouldn't have worked in attreacting white crowds, which is exactly what Miles wanted to do.



Times have changed, eh? Take off, you hoser.

See even on PE, some are wishing a return to 50's law & order :p ;)

[wideopenears]

No way. Not in 68.

Agreed. This wouldn't have flown.....heck, not even sure it would fly until the mid 70's at the earliest!

[Yanks2014]

Just wondering, why is that album called "Bitches Brew"? Is there any coherant reason? I guess maybe it's just hard to title instrumental music.

[rcarlberg]

Just wondering, why is that album called "Bitches Brew"? Is there any coherant reason? I guess maybe it's just hard to title instrumental music.The term "witches brew" is well known, and Miles was fond of calling his favored musicians "bitches" so he must've just come up with it in the middle of the night November 13, 1969.

See also: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100911210739AA8tdsT
And here: http://jazztimes.com/articles/20243-miles-davis-and-the-making-of-bitches-brew-sorcerer-s-brew

[rcarlberg]

(Seen a copy of Could You Walk on the Water lately?) Yup.
http://suite101.fr/article/le-rolling-stone-brian-jones-fut-il-assassine--a9963

[Yanks2014]

The term "witches brew" is well known, and Miles was fond of calling his favored musicians "bitches" so he must've just come up with it in the middle of the night November 13, 1969.

See also: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100911210739AA8tdsT
And here: http://jazztimes.com/articles/20243-miles-davis-and-the-making-of-bitches-brew-sorcerer-s-brew

Classy guy. :roll talented musician and all, I get it, but it seems he wasn't terribly likable a person.

[rcarlberg]

That's common knowledge.

[No Pride]

Miles certainly had some "issues," but practically every musician who's been in one of his bands raves about what a great learning experience it was working with him. Sometimes you have to wade through some shit to get to a better place.

[rcarlberg]

There's also this:
The influence of Hendrix and especially Sly Stone on Miles Davis was obvious on the album Bitches Brew, which ushered in the era of jazz fusion. The origin of the album's title is unknown, but some believe Miles was subtly paying tribute to Betty and her girlfriends. In fact, it is said that he originally wanted to call the album Witches Brew — it was Betty who convinced him to change it. Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_mabry)

[wideopenears]

Madamoiselle Mabry, AKA Betty Davis.....a force to reckon with, for sure. The best kind of Bitch.

[Trane]

Madamoiselle Mabry, AKA Betty Davis.....a force to reckon with, for sure. The best kind of Bitch.

Couold be easily topped by another Davis bith...



Angela