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Rufus
12-13-2012, 03:51 PM
Following the golden decade of prog , which albums from the proceeding decades deserve classic prog status ?
Name 10 !
1.Scenes From a Memory -DT
2.Space Revolver - FK
3.Bridge Across Forever-TA
4. Contagian-Arena
5.Ever-IQ
6.Misplaced Childhood-Marillion
7.Talk-Yes
8.Moving Pictures -Rush
9.Hypothetical - Threshold
10.?-Neal Morse

ItalProgRules
12-13-2012, 04:06 PM
Pallas - The Sentinel
Rush - Moving Pictures
Marillion - Clutching at Straws
Ozric Tentacles - Erpland
Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways
Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun
Opeth - Still Life
Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard
Astra - The Weirding
Spock's Beard - V

Mind Drive
12-13-2012, 04:14 PM
Rush-Moving Pictures
Marillion-Misplaced Childhood
IQ-Dark Matter
Spocks Beard-Snow
Porcupine Tree-In Absentia
Opeth-Heritage
Storm Corrosion-Storm Corrosion
Anathema-Weather Systems

Progmatic
12-13-2012, 04:28 PM
After Crying Megalazottak Es Megszomoritottak
Änglagård Hybris
Barnabe, Arrigo Clara Crocodilo
Bi Kyo Ran Parallax
Desooorden, La Ciudad De Papel
Deus Ex Machina Deus Ex Machina
Drake, William D. The Rising of the Lights
Koenji Hyakkei II - Viva Koenji
Metheny, Pat & Lyle Mays As Falls Wichita So Falls Wichita Falls
Thinking Plague In Extremis

Scrotum Scissor
12-13-2012, 04:56 PM
After Crying Megalazottak Es Megszomoritottak
Änglagård Hybris
Deus Ex Machina Deus Ex Machina
Koenji Hyakkei II - Viva Koenji
Thinking Plague In Extremis
Impressive, although I'd replace DeM with Equilibrismo da Insofferenza and possibly Hybris with Epilog, although "objectively" speaking the former made more of a buzz than the latter. Others, and obviously rather subjective:

Landberk - Riktigt Äkta (1992)
Thule - Natt (1989)
Ezra Winston - Ancient Afternoons (1990)
5UU's - Hunger's Teeth (1994)
Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (1997)
Happy Family - Toscco (1997)
The Spacious Mind - Organic Mind Solution (1994)
Anekdoten - Nucleus (1995)
Cynic - Focus (1993)
Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante (1995)
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1995)
Iva Bittova & Dunaj - Pustit Musis (1996)
Porcupine Tree - Signify (1996)
Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis (1997)
Robert Wyatt - Shleep (1997)
Don Caballero - II (1997)
D.F.A. - Duty Free Area (1999)
Bubblemath - Such Fine Particles of the Universe (2000)
Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye (2004)
Dungen - Ta Det Lugnt (2005)
Sigur Ros - () (2003)
White Willow - Sacrament (2000)
Jaga Jazzist - The Stix (2003)
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History (2006)
Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune (2009)

Oh, and if the "classic" criteria is something akin to "well known", an album like And the Glass Handed Kites by Mew (or anything by the above mentioned Dungen) has done more for European diplomacy towards the grand concept of progressive rock than any 70s pastiche ever will.


And these were all 90s/00s titles - 80s faves are in abundance; too much.

Trane
12-13-2012, 05:04 PM
in no particular order (and only one per artiste)

80's
Love Over Gold,
Brother Where You Bound
Script For A Jester's Tears
Letter Home (News From Babel)
Le Poison Qui Rend Fou
Le Mariage du Ciel et l'Enfer (Art Zoyd)
Vemod
UZed

90's
Hybris
Mundus Incompertus (PLP)
Hyönteisiä Voi Rakastaa (Hoyry Kone)
Thrak
Schleep
Hymnemonde (Pangee)
Common Daze (Ravana, Norway)
Elastic Juggling (Miriodor)
In Extremis

00's
Timeloss
Eris (Baku Llama)
Kaarmelautakunta (Alammailman Vasarat)
03,02,01 (Globalys)
Grosso Modo (P Verveloesem)
The Land of the Giant Dwarves (X-Legged Sally)
Finnegans Wake 4
Songs From Mirage (Aranis)
Cycle 1 (Setna)
Trisector
Espers II
Well Of Memory (PG Six)
Mosaic (Woven Hand)

Scrotum Scissor
12-13-2012, 05:12 PM
Le Poison Qui Rend Fou (Present)
Elastic Juggling (Miriodor)
Yup, Elastic Juggling fell out of my list but certainly should have been there - Miriodor needs to be. And Present's Le Poison is on my top-20 of progressive albums ever - arguably my altogether fave from the 80s.

Levgan
12-13-2012, 05:17 PM
80s faves are in abundance; too much.
Agreed. The 80s deserve their own thread.

As for the 90s/00s here's my list of classics:

L'Ensemble Raye - Meme en Hiver / Comme un Pinson dans l'Eau
Flat Earth Society - Trap
Polite Refusal - Geese & Swans / Steel on Stone
U Totem - s/t
Sergey Kuryokhin - Sparrow Oratorium
Rinnesya - s/t
Charming Hostess - Eat
Gatto Marte - Danae
Koenji Hyakkei - nearly all of them
Le Grande Formation - Anyone Lived in a Pretty How Town
DAAU - Tub Gurnard Goodness
Scrooge - Happy What Else & Cinematograph
Hidria Spacefolk - Symbiosis
Les Projectionnistes - Copie Zero
Cardiacs - All that Glitters is a Mares Nest
Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune
The Ex - Mudbird Shivers
Guapo - Black Oni
Magma - K.A.
Palinckx - The Psychedelic Years (gets my vote as the best album no one ever talks about - not that I see much discussion about others in this list, but at least they get mentioned every now and then, while this one is just criminally overlooked)
QOPH - Kalejdoskopiska Aktiviteter
Thinking Plague - In Extremis
Uz Jsme Doma - Usi
X-Legged Sally - Eggs and Ashes

I left out those that I rate as high as these, but they only marginally belong to the "prog" subgenre.

Trane
12-13-2012, 05:19 PM
Yup, Elastic Juggling fell out of my list but certainly should have been there - Miriodor needs to be. And Present's Le Poison is on my top-20 of progressive albums ever - arguably my altogether fave from the 80s.

Your list is pretty good as well.... I could've placed Finisterre's In Limine, Germinale's second, Universale TotemOrchestra's debut and DFA's DFA in mine too, but one has to stop somewhere (I was way beyong ten)

Though I personally don't think the 80's stand out more than the 90's or 00's (especially if one was to withdraw the RIo crowd)

bondegezou
12-13-2012, 05:26 PM
Many great suggestions above (Rush, 5uu's, Mew, Marillion). Many more could be added. What about...

Marillion: Afraid of Sunlight
Torn/Karn/Bozzio: Polytown
Towering Inferno: Kaddish
Biota: Object Holder
Pure Reason Revolution: The Dark Third

Henry

gregory
12-13-2012, 05:30 PM
How do you define 'classics'?

Rufus
12-13-2012, 06:29 PM
Gonna add one more !
Subterranea-IQ

bill g
12-13-2012, 07:30 PM
Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream (Dirge is right there, too)
Advent - Cantus Firmas
Tony Banks - Six Pieces for Orchestra
Anglagard - Viljans Oga
Kenso - Yume No Oka
Prefab Sprout - Jordan: The Comeback
Flower Kings - Stardust We Are

close to classic:

Big Big Train - English Electric
Thieves' Kitchen - Water Road
several Thinking Plague albums, a couple Ant Phillips albums, some Camel, and I'm sure I've forgotten some gems.

simon moon
12-13-2012, 07:35 PM
After Crying - De Prefundis
Thinking Plague - In Extremis
Magma - K.A.
Underground Railroad - The Origin of Consciousness
Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane
Cynic - Traced in Air
Anglagard - Hybris
DFA - 4th
Discus - ...Tot Licht!

zravkapt
12-13-2012, 07:52 PM
In chronological order:

Univers Zero - Heatwave
5uu's - Hunger's Teeth
Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante
Universal Totem Orchestra - Rituale Alieno
Magyar Posse - Random Avenger

Progmatic
12-14-2012, 07:40 AM
How do you define 'classics'?

you know when you hear one ;)

Poisoned Youth
12-14-2012, 09:01 AM
While I feel that 30+ years is being marginalized in the process, here's my personal tops (no order):

Änglagård - Hybris
Änglagård - Epilog
Archive - Controlling Crowds
The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
One Shot - Ewaz Vader
Cai - Noche Abierta
Crucible - Tall Tales
Djam Karet - The Devouring
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Kada - Bucsuzas
Miasma & The Carousel of Headless Horses - Perils
Present - No 6

GuitarGeek
12-14-2012, 09:11 AM
IQ: The Wake
Marillion: Misplaced Childhood
Magma: KA
Djam Karet: Reflections From The Firepool
Les 4 Guitaristes D'Apocalypso Bar: World Tour
David Torn: Cloud About Mercury
King Crimson: Three Of A Perfect Pair
Doctor Nerve: Did Sprinting Die?
King Crimson: Thrak

Facelift
12-14-2012, 10:25 AM
Without getting too creative with what constitutes "prog": (alphabetically)

Happy Family - Tossco
Allan Holdsworth - Metal Fatigue
King Crimson - Discipline
Magma - Félicité Thösz
Present - Triskaidékaphobie
Present - Le poison qui rend fou
Rush - Moving Pictures
The Science Group - A Mere Coincidence
Thinking Plague - In Extremis
Thinking Plague - In This Life
Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors
Univers Zero - UZED
Univers zéro - Heatwave
Von Zamla - 1983
Robert Wyatt - Cuckooland

Progmatic
12-14-2012, 10:28 AM
10 means different thing to different people...

Facelift
12-14-2012, 10:35 AM
^ I did list ten. I also listed five more. He never said that the lists had to be limited to ten.

walt
12-14-2012, 10:44 AM
O.L.D.-Formula

Skeptrick
12-14-2012, 10:45 AM
One that would top my list and I haven't seen mentioned is Phideaux-Doomsday Afternoon

Progmatic
12-14-2012, 11:05 AM
^ I did list ten. I also listed five more. He never said that the lists had to be limited to ten.


Name 10 !

let me restate it then "Name 10 !" instruction means different thing to different people...

notallwhowander
12-14-2012, 11:35 AM
I don't know from classics, but I'll list 10 favorites:

Brian Eno & David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
King Crimson - Discipline
The Residents - Mark of the Mole
Dead Can Dance - The Serpent's Egg
Änglagård - Hybris
King Crimson - THRAK
Bruford/Levin Upper Extremities - BLUE Nights
Djam Karet - Ascension
King Crimson - Level 5
Setna - Cycle I

Poisoned Youth
12-14-2012, 12:50 PM
let me restate it then "Name 10 !" instruction means different thing to different people...
Relax. :) This isn't some sort of official poll or anything. Feel free to throw out any 2 of my 12 if it pleases you.

Progmatic
12-14-2012, 01:03 PM
Relax. :) This isn't some sort of official poll or anything. Feel free to throw out any 2 of my 12 if it pleases you.

I am just kidding...you may dump in the post your whole post 70's albums database for what I care :D...

Poisoned Youth
12-14-2012, 01:15 PM
I am just kidding...you may dump in the post your whole post 70's albums database for what I care :D...

I don't think the site can handle that much bandwidth. ;)

gregory
12-15-2012, 04:28 PM
Don't care if it's 'classics' or not, but I like to point out these:
Page/Plant Walking Into Clarksdale
Bruford Levin Upper Extremities debut '99
Andy Summers Green Chimneys
Oregon 45th Parallel
Eberhard Weber Endless Days
Citizen Cain Raising The Stones
Van der Graaf Generator Present
Peter Hammill As Close As This
Jethro Tull Catfish Rising
ELPowell
Keith Emerson Band featuring Marc Bonilla '08
Steve Hackett To Watch The Storms

Big Ears
12-17-2012, 07:10 AM
How do you define 'classics'?

This was the first entry after typing 'definition of classic' in Google:

clas-sic
/ˈklasik/

Adjective
Judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.

Noun
A work of art of recognized and established value.

Synonyms
classical - standard

It strikes me that no matter how you attempt to qualify the term, such as by using the adverb 'widely' (which is vague anyway), it remains subjective.

gregory
12-17-2012, 06:17 PM
This was the first entry after typing 'definition of classic' in Google:

clas-sic
/ˈklasik/

Adjective
Judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.

Noun
A work of art of recognized and established value.

Synonyms
classical - standard

It strikes me that no matter how you attempt to qualify the term, such as by using the adverb 'widely' (which is vague anyway), it remains subjective.
I quite share the J.L.Borges defifnition, though he spoke about classical books. His thought could be extrapolated on any kind of art, I suppose so. Classic is not something that must have some this or that essential merits, but it is work of art, which make different generations of people, prompted by different reasons, return to it again and again with inapprehensible devotion.
Mystical probably, but intention is clear.

Progbear
12-17-2012, 07:56 PM
Ain Soph: A Story of Mysterious Forest
Änglagård: Hybris
Asia Minor: Between Flesh & Divine
Deus Ex Machina: De Reppublica
Gorizont: Summer in Town
Kenso: II
Metamorfosis: Papallones i elefants
Stern Meissen: Reise zum Mittelpunkt des Menschen
Tako: U vreći za spavanje
Univers Zéro: Ceux du dehors

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MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

‘“What blow, Goblin?” said Corinius.’ --E. R. Eddison

N.P.:nothing

italprogfan
12-19-2012, 05:50 PM
As close as i dare get to 10, otherwise be cutting out a gem. A lot of South American and Eastern European countries were just coming on line with some really meaningful stuff, mostly because of their political situations.

Änglagård Hybris Swe 1992
Artsruni Cruzaid Arm 2002
Bacamarte Depois Do Fim Bra 1983
East Huseg Hun 1982
Eskaton 4 Visions Fra 1980
Flught Flught Mex 1981
Formas Largos Suenos Spa 1981
IQ Subterranea Eng 1997
Jaivas, Los Alturas de Machu Picchu Chl 1981
Montefeltro Il Tempo di Far la Fantasia Ita 1993
Ovni Humans But Not Terrestrials ElS 2004
Pablo El Enterrador Pablo El Enterrador Arg 1983
Porcupine Tree Stupid Dream Eng 1999
Scarlet Thread Psykedeelisiä Joutsenlauluja Fin 2003
Solaris Marsbeli Kronikak Hun 1984
Tibbetts, Steve Yr USA 1980

NogbadTheBad
12-20-2012, 09:48 PM
Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors
Ahvak - s/t
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Radiohead - OK Computer
The Future Kings Of England - The Fate Of Old Mother Orvis
Tool - Laterus
Guapo - 5 Suns
Anglagard - Hybris
Polite Refusal - Geese & Swans
Thinking Plague - Decline & Fall

Very hard to stick to 10 so here are my next 10

Pikapika Teart - Moonberry
Present - Triskaidekaphobie
Uz Jsme Doma - Caves
Miriodor - Avanti!
Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune
Simon Steensland - Fat Again
3 Mice - Send Me a Postcard
Sleepytime Gorilla Musem - Of Natural History
Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm of a Dying Sun
Sigur Ros - Ágætis Byrjun

JIF
12-21-2012, 01:52 AM
Yes-Drama
IQ-Tales From The Lush Attic
Rush-Moving Pictures
Spock's Beard-V
Dream Theater-Scenes From A Memory
King Crimson-Discipline
Jethro Tull-Roots To Branches
Marillion-Script For A Jester's Tear
Arena-Immortal

Trane
12-21-2012, 06:07 AM
Bacamarte Depois Do Fim Bra 1983
Jaivas, Los Alturas de Machu Picchu Chl 1981
Pablo El Enterrador Pablo El Enterrador Arg 1983


I ndidn't think about those and list, patly because I never think of them as 80's stuff





Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm of a Dying Sun




I had thought of Aion (which is their proggier album IMHO), but I tried to limit my list somehow