[PEDANT] It can't be most perfect, its either perfect or not perfect[/PEDANT]
It's not even my favorite Genesis album, that would be Foxtrot. Personally I'd go with Close To The Edge, Animals, Larks Tongues In Aspic, Godbluff, Ommadawn, Rotters Club.
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I managed to hold myself backOriginally Posted by LeFrog
I agree with you for what it's worth. I'm also quite certain you would have found many others to agree with you on other prog sites. But, hey, this is PE, the place where they can actually give you a list of 50 RIO albums that are so much better than SEBTP
Ian
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Tell it to those guys who wrote the United States Constitution.
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Your self restraint is admirable.I managed to hold myself back
I think they're dead.
Ian
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
I'm with you, though I find myself concentrating on the instrumental work over the vocals. Absolutely love 'After The Ordeal'. I've heard nothing like it as well. That, Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show make for a stunning nucleus for sure.
I think taken as a whole I prefer a concept album for prog, so my vote would go to Lamb, or perhaps Nektar's Remember the Future, or Oldfield's Amarok or countless others over Selling England. That being said, I would consider it a very hard choice to put something like Supper's Ready over Close to the Edge as the best prog "song", and there's many more songs that could be added to that list like some things by the Flower Kings, or Crimson, or Floyd, or Porcupine Tree, or Renaissance, or etc.
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It's a great album, for sure.
But, to me, Close to the Edge is the apex of "Prog Rock." Most folks call it symphonic, and I would agree, but I would also say that limits it to some degree. There's nothing remotely "pop" about it, no standard "song structures," and I hear clear jazz influences, as well. It's also psychedelic as hell. I have played it at least 1,000 times and it keeps my interest, decades later, all the way through. Very few albums do that for me.
"And this is the chorus.....or perhaps it's a bridge...."
Just because they said "more perfect"? Harsh.
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Is "Selling England..." a concept album? Interesting question. Some people muse that it might be, focusing on 'englishness'. What I really like about that album is how it closes with extending the segment that was introduced during the album opening. It does not fall for the foolish consistency and slavishly mimic the opening segment. Instead, it riffs off it -- a brilliant example of perfection in musicianship. Ten stars from me!
You like that word "perfection" don't you? Like previously mentioned, hard to top "perfect" if you are looking for only that in other prog albums especially if you want to explore newer more recent music in various genres, like your hip hop/prog hybrid for example
To my way of thinking, life is too short to waste it on anything less than perfect.You like that word "perfection" don't you? Like previously mentioned, hard to top "perfect" if you are looking for only that in other prog albums especially if you want to explore newer more recent music in various genres, like your hip hop/prog hybrid for example
I see. Well, good luck with that quest feldman.
Thank you. There are over 7 billion people on the planet today, at least a couple of billion working on all kinds of things. Statistically speaking there's gotta be a few perfect products out there. I remember the band called the Beatles -- they produced some perfect songs.
No. "Epping Forest" is a two minute joke that drags on for nearly 12 minutes, and "More Fool Me" is a fairly maudlin piece. I'm not sure there is a "perfect Prog album". I would probably put Close to the Edge and Thick as a Brick higher than Selling England, but even with those two there are significant flaws (Siberian Khatru is not anywhere close to the other 2 songs on CTTE, and the first part of the second side of TAAB is a bit slow, for instance)
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Thats a bizarre approach, this thing is stupendously wonderful but not quite perfect, I'm going to ignore it and keep looking.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Please share your findings.
Not sure, but I have a T-shirt of this album cover on right now. So the answer is: my shirt is great and will need a wash after today.
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Yep.
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
Life is a series of compromises.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
SEBTP is an excellent album but not my fav of Genesis. Comes in about fourth of theirs. Shows the incredible work they did over a period of years
Can't find much fault with "Thick as a Brick", but it's more like a string of standalone rock songs that weave in and out, than a monolithic piece of symphony-like composition. As such, I view it more like the best Jethro Tull album in terms of quality of songs. I don't really see it as Prog, more like regular rock-pop. Nothing wrong with that, in my book.
It's a great album, but I've never cared much for Epping, and while I don't really mind I Know What I Like, I don't think it fits well with the rest of the album. I rank Foxtrot higher, and possibly Nursery Cryme as well. I prefer the somewhat less polished sound of those two. But I love all three albums.
Curious about your ranking of Foxtrot. For some reason, I was never able to get into that one. What should I pay attention when listening to that album? I wanna give it another chance...
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