Thjis Van Leer on the current state of progressive rock

[Camelogue]

Much ado about nothing.

[JKL2000]

I didn't get through everything that Bruno posted, but I think Derek Shulman had the best take on it.

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

The quotes Bruno posted were interesting. Most of the artists involved saw it the same way I experienced it in the 70s. Rock music combined with Classical and Jazz and the fact that artists known then for making progressive music using Rock rhythms varied greatly in sound from one another. It's why my friends back then saw the Afro Prog artists like Mandrill and Osibisa as just part of the greater progressive scene that emerged from the late 60s

[moecurlythanu]

The quotes Bruno posted were interesting. Most of the artists involved saw it the same way I experienced it in the 70s. Rock music combined with Classical and Jazz and the fact that artists known then for making progressive music using Rock rhythms varied greatly in sound from one another. It's why my friends back then saw the Afro Prog artists like Mandrill and Osibisa as just part of the greater progressive scene that emerged from the late 60s

That's wild...I was reading those posts and thought, "LP's gonna blow a gasket!"

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

they pretty much confirm what I've always said about the term "prog" and the idea that progressive Rock music was always multi-cultural and multi-national; never centered around British artists (as the Symph Weenie revisionists make it out to be)

[moecurlythanu]

they pretty much confirm what I've always said about the term "prog" and the idea that progressive Rock music was always multi-cultural and multi-national; never centered around British artists (as the Symph Weenie revisionists make it out to be)

Erm...

All Progressive Music is; is music that uses European influences rather than American influences. You know; that's the main hallmark of Progressive Music. ... It is Rock and Roll actually from a different influence than American music. That's all it is really." - Greg Lake (Emerson, Lake & Palmer)

Then there's what Van Leer said in post 47. (Though they don't make it a completely British thing either, and I don't know anyone who does, so fwiw.)

[moecurlythanu]

Btw, I agree with whoever said that what these guys think is pretty irrelevant. They didn't invent or choose the term, and if left up to them, no genres would exist, because, you know, each band is so unique that they can't possibly be put into the same category as another band.

[JKL2000]

Btw, I agree with whoever said that what these guys think is pretty irrelevant. They didn't invent or choose the term, and if left up to them, no genres would exist, because, you know, each band is so unique that they can't possibly be put into the same category as another band.

Yeah, that's a good point. You don't have Slaughter denying that they could be in the same genre as Ratt.

[nodak]

Does the keyboard player wearing a cape classify a band as Progressive Rock?

[moecurlythanu]

Does the keyboard player wearing a cape classify a band as Progressive Rock?

Not if the keyboard player's name is Batman.

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

Erm...



Then there's what Van Leer said in post 47. (Though they don't make it a completely British thing either, and I don't know anyone who does, so fwiw.)

sure there were one or two isolated thoughts. The consensus though was congruent with my 70s experience

should I go through and quote all those?

[moecurlythanu]

sure there were one or two isolated thoughts. The consensus though was congruent with my 70s experience

should I go through and quote all those?

Don't bother, but they didn't state it how you usually do, so you may be seeing what you want to see.

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

ok, I'll quote them

[Mister Triscuits]

Thjis, it seems to me, is put off with new prog. I wonder if it is because he observes musicians lurking on his perceived lawn. Which is actually an open field, with some well worn trails, but plenty of space for new footpaths, and occasionally, the ground can be rototilled, to allow for fresh growth and new pathways.

But does there really have to be quite so much fertilizer?

[Splicer]

There are only two kinds of music in the world: What I like and what I don't like. Period. End of paragraph. Everything else is outside my own head and therefore not my problem. There's plenty of music, even new music, for me to enjoy. That's all that matters to me.

[Scrotum Scissor]

Definitions from now on are slim but absolutely definitive and unchangeable through perpetuity.

Purely musical or strictly cultural assets and/or virtues aren't the main thing at all. You simply have to have played one of these:
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[jarmsuh]

There are only two kinds of music in the world: What I like and what I don't like. Period. End of paragraph. Everything else is outside my own head and therefore not my problem. There's plenty of music, even new music, for me to enjoy. That's all that matters to me.

You can tell that to someone who is trying to open a music store

[moecurlythanu]

Purely musical or strictly cultural assets and/or virtues aren't the main thing at all. You simply have to have played one of these:
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The Love Boat!...Stubing booked all the best bands!

[Scrotum Scissor]

The Love Boat!

Exactly. And as goes with Love, Forever Never Changes.

So much pun'fun.

[Top Cat]

Much ado about nothing.

+1

[miamiscot]

This also makes me wonder how different Focus 11 is from the band's previous albums? Have they progressed to a whole new sound?

Good point. Focus 11 is excellent but covers no new territory. Although hearing Pierre van der Linden behind the kit again is pretty cool!!!

[miamiscot]

And I really like the PROG magazine cover with that Focus quote ...

...and then Neal Morse right underneath. Coincidence or is their anti-Morse bias showing?

Either way it's pretty funny.

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[Zalmoxe]

Another traitor to the cause of the Prog?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lou...of-todays-prog

Everyone's entitled to an opinion

[moecurlythanu]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion

For which they will die.

[Zeuhlmate]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion

...but not their own facts, and this is where the debate starts...