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    Bonds: 1) Moore 2) Connery 3) Dalton 4) Lazenby 5) Craig 6) Brosnan.

    Craig is good, but he looks like a Russian. Hard for me to get over, after watching all those early Bond flicks.

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    Connery was Bond

    I skipped the Dalton and Brosnan eras

    I like Craig, but he doesn't have the wit of the Connery era Bond
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    I love 60s Connery Bond.
    70s /80s Moore Bonds were waaaay too campy.

    Moonraker?!?!
    That was like a big budgeted episode of the six million dollar man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
    70s /80s Moore Bonds were waaaay too campy.
    Exactly.
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    Because it's in the horror genre, you expect it to be frightening, intense, scary, or something along those lines.

    That's like saying an action film, should not be action or fast paced.
    I don't think it's important which genre the film is a part of. There are films which are even difficult to classify. A good film is a good film no matter what.
    And what's so fast paced about Dirty Harry? Absolutely nothing. It's a well disciplined, inelligently shot film with a bit of action. The only loose thing are the Eastwood catch phrases which are like precursors to a lot of so called one liners. There is so much more going on in that film which is very patient with its rhythm.
    In one of his rare interviews Walter Hill said that most action films just aren't good movies (an interesting thought).
    First Blood is a decent film and an example of craft no matter what compared to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
    Moonraker?!?!
    That was like a big budgeted episode of the six million dollar man.
    exactly why I loved it so much when I saw it as a kid. Seeing it today, sure, it makes me cringe I liked it so much, but back then it was a treat. As was The Six Million Dollar Man



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    Man, I loved The Six Million Dollar Man so much when I was a kid. I remember being so freaked-out by the Fembots.
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    Six Million Dollar slo-mo!
    no tunes, no dynamics, no nosebone

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    Quote Originally Posted by selmer View Post
    I don't think it's important which genre the film is a part of. There are films which are even difficult to classify. A good film is a good film no matter what.
    And what's so fast paced about Dirty Harry? Absolutely nothing.
    While I agree that a good film is a good film no matter the genre, but if you are going to make a genre horror film, viewer expect certain tropes as do other genre films to a degree.

    I don't agree about the pace of the Dirty Harry film. Granted it's not fast paced as say Speed or Fast & Furious or some other example, but there's tension & ACTION. What about the scenes where Harry has to run to phone booth to phone booth to intercept calls? He literally has to jog to get to certain locales before his time runs out. In other Harry films there are car races and crashes, etc. You can amp up action in other ways like running, jogging, fight scenes, etc.

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    Dark Star: H. R. Giger's World--doc on the famed surrealist painter who helped mold the images in Alien, Dune, Species and influenced many other films. It's a bit low key, but was made about a year before his demise. I thought it was interesting.

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    Michael Fassbender would probably make a good 007.

    I just saw On Her Majesties Secret Service and it was really good.

    I also saw the film, Kingsmen: The Secret Service, which is sort of a spoof on the 007, spy genre, and thought it was fun. It's a story by the same writer that created Kick Ass, and Wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Man, I loved The Six Million Dollar Man so much when I was a kid. I remember being so freaked-out by the Fembots.
    Yeah, but did you have the action figure. You know the one where you could look through the back of his head and see through his bionic eye? The one that had the arm flap exposing his robotics? Well, I did!

    But in regards to Bond favorites, Connery gets my vote. Although I really like the badass, no bullshit Daniel Craig Bond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonk View Post
    Yeah, but did you have the action figure. You know the one where you could look through the back of his head and see through his bionic eye? The one that had the arm flap exposing his robotics? Well, I did!
    Hell yeah!

    That and my Evel Knieval figure (with the windup box for the motorcycle) used to fight bad guys all the time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonk View Post
    Although I really like the badass, no bullshit Daniel Craig Bond.
    That's the thing about Craig, his Bond just gets shit done. That first big action piece in Casino Royale, where he chasing that guy that has all those parkour moves. The fugitive jumps through a narrow window with finesse and Bond just rams through the drywall like a battering ram. He's just a force of nature. Connery (and the others to a lesser extent) played it cool. Craig plays it like this Bond doesn't give one fuck.

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    While it's been years since I watched them, I don't recall Roger Moore's performances as "campy." I thought he was cool, suave, debonair, and very British, which is exactly what Bond should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    That's the thing about Craig, his Bond just gets shit done. That first big action piece in Casino Royale, where he chasing that guy that has all those parkour moves. The fugitive jumps through a narrow window with finesse and Bond just rams through the drywall like a battering ram. He's just a force of nature. Connery (and the others to a lesser extent) played it cool. Craig plays it like this Bond doesn't give one fuck.
    Yeah, that was about the most intense opening scene I've ever seen! Like I said, he's the best Bond as far as the action hero angle goes. But he doesn't have Connery's sex appeal or deadpan humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Eric View Post
    All this focus on Bond is misguided. What's really important are the Bond girls, hubba hubba!
    There are girls in the Bond films? I'll have to watch more carefully next time!

    I really liked Roger Moore, both as Bond and earlier as The Saint. In fact I'd say Connery and Moore are my two favourite Bonds, for different reasons. I liked how Moore always seemed to be winking at the audience as if to say "We both know this is a load of bollocks".

    I only saw Dalton as Bond once - that was The Living Daylights, which I did not like. It was not so much Dalton's fault - he did not seem to have much of a plot to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hippypants View Post
    Dark Star: H. R. Giger's World--doc on the famed surrealist painter who helped mold the images in Alien, Dune, Species and influenced many other films. It's a bit low key, but was made about a year before his demise. I thought it was interesting.
    There was another film called Dark Star. I saw it as part of a science fiction film festival in about 1982, which makes the film at least pre-1982. It was rubbish. If you ever get the chance to see it, don't waste your time. One of the silliest movies I ever saw, and not even silly in a humorous way.

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    Right, that early Dark Star was John Carpenter's first film. I've never seen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippypants View Post
    While I agree that a good film is a good film no matter the genre, but if you are going to make a genre horror film, viewer expect certain tropes as do other genre films to a degree.

    I don't agree about the pace of the Dirty Harry film. Granted it's not fast paced as say Speed or Fast & Furious or some other example, but there's tension & ACTION. What about the scenes where Harry has to run to phone booth to phone booth to intercept calls? He literally has to jog to get to certain locales before his time runs out. In other Harry films there are car races and crashes, etc. You can amp up action in other ways like running, jogging, fight scenes, etc.
    I don't know if I expect a film to be something. I expect it to be good or if I have seen a trailer, I can imagine what it will be like. "Jaws" has so many qualities outside of the horror content. The way the town is presented, the leading actors, the way it's shot etc.

    The last time I saw "Dirty Harry" I was surprised at how patient with its rhythm it was. Compared to today, it is slow but the artistry in it is fantastic. The night scenes make the film. I don't think it's great but it's a decent film and deserves to be called a classic.
    I think "Bullitt" is a better piece of art with even more patiently paced scenes. It's a bit more intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippypants View Post
    Right, that early Dark Star was John Carpenter's first film. I've never seen it.
    It's worth seeing. There are some stylistic choices which are distintively Carpenterian. A really exciting piece of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippypants View Post
    Right, that early Dark Star was John Carpenter's first film. I've never seen it.
    If you can stomach low-budget films, get it --- its very tongue-and-cheek but it was more than decent for its time/budget constraints. I also read the book by Alan Dean Foster

    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    There was another film called Dark Star. I saw it as part of a science fiction film festival in about 1982, which makes the film at least pre-1982. It was rubbish. If you ever get the chance to see it, don't waste your time. One of the silliest movies I ever saw, and not even silly in a humorous way.
    1974 but I disagree

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    I think that Dalton and Brosnan saw the most formulaic scripts of the series. Both actors repeatedly lobbied for the series to cast off its tropes and dig a little deeper. Well it happened but not in time for either of them. Anyone ever see Pierce Brosnan in The Matador? He plays a hit man, kind of a James Bond gone to seed and it's a brilliant part. Timothy Dalton of course was hilarious in Hot Fuzz and man, he just turns up the heat in the series Penny Dreadful on Showtime.
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    Speaking of Books VS Movies (should be its own thread)

    Logan's Run: The 1976 movie is a HORRIBLE story loosely based on characters and events from the book. The only thing good about the movie was Jenny Agutter running around in her very revealing tunic.........

    ...............The book by William F. Nolan is absolutely phenomenal

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    Quote Originally Posted by klothos View Post
    Speaking of Books VS Movies (should be its own thread)

    Logan's Run: The 1976 movie is a HORRIBLE story loosely based on characters and events from the book. The only thing good about the movie was Jenny Agutter running around in her very revealing tunic.........

    ...............The book by William F. Nolan is absolutely phenomenal
    Yeah, the ice cave scene w/Box is about the only decent part of that one...(and let's not forget her role in American Werewolf in London )_
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