but what the hell are those two bands doing on that show?
but what the hell are those two bands doing on that show?
Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
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“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
At first I wasn't sure, but the drummer's name is Eli Litwin, and it turns out the host of the show is named Ralph Litwin.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
I also love the production and sound processing
take a listen to the live clip to get an idea how they can sound just as convincing without the studio wizardry
Maybe like Beefheart the vocals and lyrics add that extra dimension that raises them above the rest of the pack like Zs etc.
What an amazing album
Agreed on the originality aspect. Beefheart never came close to the textural components in this music. Maybe some of the rhythms perhaps, but otherwise, pretty much this is in a league of its own. I would be curious to know if they are Ives fanatics or not? Thanks for the reminder - gonna dust this sucker off and let it invade my bones today.
Denser.
Zs or Ellipsis still sound "musical" to me, if confusing - even at first listening - and I can eventually make some sense out of them with repeated plays. Zs seem like absolutely uncompromising avant chamber music, but scored for guitar, drums, and sax rather than perhaps clarinet and prepared piano. Ellipsis seem more like a compositional interpretation of free jazz. But both still have a sense of melody, harmony, and recognizable structure, even if unconventional, jagged, and very chromatic.
Normal Love are something else again. The only context I've been able to hear for them is as skilled musicians and composers inspired by No Wave, noise music and other fringe idioms mostly populated by musical primitives. And like their influences, it's hard for me to hear anything in them beyond a pure barbaric yawp. It may be there, but I have trouble finding it.
Another great track
Yeah, I agree about Inzinzac. Just another one of those great avant-free jazz-type of bands that Philadelphia is cranking out these days. Plus I love the album cover.
Alban Bailly, their guitarist, was running a really cool free-jazz night at a Philly coffee shop a few summers ago. A bunch of great acts performing brief, high-intensity sets. Plus, he's buds with Nick Millevoi from Many Arms (and many other groups too).
But yeah, Normal Love... I have their s/t album, and it is quite angular and mathy. Survival Tricks seems like it might be a bit too difficult for me - I'd have to be in the right mood to listen to it.
Anything Udi likes is worth checking out.
I think Normal Love sounds like a cross between The Residents and Mnemonist Orchestra. I haven't heard all of their output so I don't know if they occasionally lapse into more normal / less stressful music-making, but for me that's what makes bands like Faust and This Heat great, is that contrast.
I've always had Normal Love as analogs to Zs. Their album 2007 (or is it 2009?) reminds me alot of pre-New Slaves Zs. Twisting chambery pieces, though with more rock influences in NL. Then, Zs released New Slaves which is electronic, difficult, and dense and NL released Survival Tricks which is in the same ballpark again (similarly with a bit more energy and rock feel).
I'm not sure of the timing, so I suppose Survival Tricks may have came out before New Slaves, but IIRC it did not.
Not trying to call Normal Love a clone band at all, btw. Just mentioning the resonances by ears have made.
Please don't ask questions, just use google.
Never let good music get in the way of making a profit.
I'm only here to reglaze my bathtub.
Anyone know their debut ?
It is very good but different. No electronics, no vocals. I posted a live video on the first page from the first album period.
I saw them in 2006; it was VERY different.
Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
Kermanator - you dig these guys?
Last year I took Chris Cutler and Tim Hodgkinson to lunch before their soundcheck and I told them about Normal Love
None of them heard of them
Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
Blistering performance - razor sharp-super tight - impressive
Even this horrible "camera man" could ruin it for me
Wow
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
It's a shame the band appears to be no more. Would have loved a follow up to Survival Tricks.
Last edited by Morpheus; 01-14-2017 at 02:05 PM.
Damn
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
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