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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    Except that, while Parks has Ives's jones for corny musical Americana, he never had the old man's bent for turning that into something utterly bizarro. I don't think Parks had, as a formative musical experience, the sound of two marching bands entering a town square from opposite sides playing the same Sousa march in two keys a minor third apart, in different tempi, and out-of-sync.
    I'm not so sure about that. I chose the comparison with Charles Ives intentionally; there are parts of Song Cycle where it feels to me like the melodic line and the orchestration are coming from different universes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    I don't think Parks had, as a formative musical experience, the sound of two marching bands entering a town square from opposite sides playing the same Sousa march in two keys a minor third apart, in different tempi, and out-of-sync.
    So few of us do.
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    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

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    The loud middle section of Decay of Cities, with brass and electric guitar, scares the shit out of me every time I am listening to it. It is one of the most intense musical moments I can think of.
    Inexhaustible richness this Western Culture, always ahead of the listener.

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    From the latest ReR newsletter :
    "The 3-BOX Henry Cow set is now out of print and will not be repressed in this form. We hope there will be a reissue later next year, with all 16 CDs in slipcases and a single box, at a reasonable price".

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    Ben Piekut's book, to be published in september 2019 :
    https://www.dukeupress.edu/henry-cow/?viewby=title

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    He had contacted me about using some of my personal photos of when I saw Cow that I took, but he never followed it up.

    But he's been working on it for some time.
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    anyone else feel like the heavy drums after the intro of "Industry" had an inspiration on the drums when they kick in on 5uu's "Roan"?


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    ^^^^^^^

    Anything HC is an inspiration to Dave Kerman. I don’t think he would argue with me on that....
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    HC escaped me until 30 years ago. I still remember the first time I heard them. Loved the album I heard from day one!
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    re: experiencing two marching bands playing simultaneously:

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    So few of us do.
    Not today they don't. Ives grew up in a very different time, and which things like parades and marching bands were a much bigger part of the culture.

    Mind you, I imagine Ives wasn't the only person who regularly heard two marching bands playing simultaneously, in different keys and tempi, but only Ives was wily enough to create music with that element built into it. At least, at the time he was, anyway.

    I need to dig out my Ives CD's. I've got about three or four of them floating around the house someplace. Or did I leave them in the TARDIS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by auxfnx View Post
    anyone else feel like the heavy drums after the intro of "Industry" had an inspiration on the drums when they kick in on 5uu's "Roan"?

    It's true that Dave and I had been very inspired by H Cow in the 70's, but we certainly weren't thinking of any particular song or sound when we did Roan or any other recording. Like everything else it was a combination of things - how the drums sounded (and whatever drums or drum-like things we could scrape up for the session), how he tuned and played them, how I recorded and mixed it, what else was going on in the track, etc.

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    I always thought the 5UU's were as "influenced" by Yes as you were by HC. Onw of my grand arguments towards the "prog" folx.
    "Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
    "[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM

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    Clearly Led Zeppelin influenced

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    The troooojan horse is burning, this is genius, full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    I always thought the 5UU's were as "influenced" by Yes as you were by HC. Onw of my grand arguments towards the "prog" folx.
    Them too. I don't recall if Sanjay had also been into Henry Cow, but like Dave and myself he had been a Yes fan. We were aware it was occasionally quite obvious but to quote Dave: "fuggit!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Drake View Post
    Them too. I don't recall if Sanjay had also been into Henry Cow, but like Dave and myself he had been a Yes fan. We were aware it was occasionally quite obvious but to quote Dave: "fuggit!".

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    i love Yes and all but gosh it goes so much further than Yes would have dared, I love it.
    There are a few moments on this album that are like Yes GONE WILD
    it is the coolest thing.

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