Punk Attitude

[Cats On Glue]

spot on glawster. some people on these prog boards look at punk like it is all degenrits playing. meanwhile 90% of their prog heros got swept up in it as fans lol

[glawster2002]

spot on glawster. some people on these prog boards look at punk like it is all degenrits playing. meanwhile 90% of their prog heros got swept up in it as fans lol

In many ways what went before and Punk could be likened to the dinosaurs and the asteroid that struck the earth 65 million years ago. Those that could adapt survived, those that couldn't died. The likes of Pink Floyd and Genesis survived and, like the dinosaurs, 90% of the rest simply died.

There were some fantastic albums made that came directly out of Punk, Siouxsie & The Banchees The Scream is a perfect example, it still sounds as fresh today.

Like most genres, most of it was rubbish, but the cream still rose to the top and shouldn't be either ignored or derided.

[klothos]

There were some fantastic albums made that came directly out of Punk......

Like most genres, most of it was rubbish, but the cream still rose to the top and shouldn't be either ignored or derided.

^this

New Wave, New Romanticism, College Rock, Industrial, 90s "Alternative", etc were all later evolutionary branches of the Punk tree, not mainstream rock.

Musically, 80s Bands like ABC, Depeche Mode, and Duran Duran were more related to what had happened in the punk underground in the previous decade than by corporate stadium rock from the same timeframe

It continued into the 90s, with Marilyn Manson (and if a person just hates these guys to hate them, they really need to give them a spin and they will see what a great band they really were...i'm a great example of that person).

In the 2000s, bands like The Killers were newer branches, well away from the tree's core "punk trunk".........

On the other hand, Rock also mutated and carried through the mainstream decades, giving us 80s hair bands, 90s bands like Creed, and Nickelback in the 2000s <--- mulls over this statement

hmmmm

Yeah, thank god for punk!!!!

[Trane]

Tonight on BBC 4, there is a rockumentary about the Sex Pistols, who despite their so-called hatred of everything non-punk, did a Dec 77 X-mas charity concerts for some steel and coalmine strikers

The thing is called" Never Mind The Baubles" mdr250.gif


(not sure if everyone knows but baubles are christmas trees balls in the UK >> had to look it up )

[rcarlberg]

spot on glawster. some people on these prog boards look at punk like it is all degenrits playing.

I don't mean to denigrate punk music but it doesn't appeal to me. And for degenrit fans of punk, "denigrate" means to belittle or minimalize.

[rcarlberg]

In many ways what went before and Punk could be likened to the dinosaurs and the asteroid that struck the earth 65 million years ago. Those that could adapt survived, those that couldn't died. The likes of Pink Floyd and Genesis survived and, like the dinosaurs, 90% of the rest simply died.

Yes, and darkness covered the land for a thousand years, millions of species died out through no fault of their own, and only the cockroaches survived. You're right, that's a pretty good analogy.

[glawster2002]

Yes, and darkness covered the land for a thousand years, millions of species died out through no fault of their own, and only the cockroaches survived. You're right, that's a pretty good analogy.

I think you will find it was more than just the cockroaches that survived, if that had been the case we wouldn't be here now.

The same with music in the UK after Punk, there were some great bands that came out of that period and I for one am glad it happened. I love Progressive Music but give me Joy Division or Siousxie & The Banschees over 99% of '70s Prog Rock any day of the week.

[klothos]

Yes, and darkness covered the land for a thousand years, millions of species died out through no fault of their own, and only the cockroaches survived. You're right, that's a pretty good analogy.

For the record, only the following things will survive the next apocalypse:

1) Roaches
2) Hostess Twinkies
3) 1980s Peavey T-40 bass guitars
4) Keith Richards and Ozzy Osbourne

[Reginod]

For the record, only the following things will survive the next apocalypse:

1) Roaches
2) Hostess Twinkies
3) 1980s Peavey T-40 bass guitars
4) Keith Richards and Ozzy Osbourne and Lemmy

Corrected.

[Rarebird]

Tonight on BBC 4, there is a rockumentary about the Sex Pistols, who despite their so-called hatred of everything non-punk, did a Dec 77 X-mas charity concerts for some steel and coalmine strikers

The thing is called" Never Mind The Baubles" mdr250.gif


(not sure if everyone knows but baubles are christmas trees balls in the UK >> had to look it up )

And then tinking Olli Rehn became a liberal because of them.

[GuitarGeek]

For the record, only the following things will survive the next apocalypse:

1) Roaches
2) Hostess Twinkies
3) 1980s Peavey T-40 bass guitars
4) Keith Richards and Ozzy Osbourne

and Cher

[JKL2000]

Some friends of mine when they were in high school.

[Rune Blackwings]

the addition of Lemmy to Ozzy and Keith did not age well

[Mythos]

I guess I missed this thread back in 2013, but since everyone has their own version of what punk is (was?), here's mine:
Punk was a way for bands to rebel against the dinosaur bands of the 70's, they were the complete opposite of Tales from Topographic Oceans, from The Allman's Mountain Jam, from every band that played 10+ minute jams, with drum solos.

Sure the musicianship was greatly scaled back, but it was a new fresh direction, that paved the way for New Wave, Synth-pop, and opened the door for Ska (2nd wave), Rockabilly (80's style), Reggae (Mainstream), Gloom (Goth) and all the other genres and their permeations of creativity that followed.

I was into music in the 70's, having seen Hawkwind, Yes, TYA, Genesis, Black Sabbath, Rory, etc. But I too was looking for something fresh, new and exciting and saw a lot of early punk bands, including: Social Distortion, Clash (London Calling tour), Stiff Little Fingers, Dead Kennedys, Fear, Crowd, TSOL, Theater of Hate, Lords of the New Church, MDC, and tons of other local So. Cal. Punk bands. The were great times, I have tons of fun... I did not consider myself a punk, but those were great times..

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

interesting, polarized opinions in this thread

for me, Punk Rock was a means of venting frustration regarding the injustices perpetrated during the 80s. I loved the live shows and the albums by the Bad Brains, Scream and Minutemen; excellent musicians all

[spacefreak]

Check Viagra Boys. Punk as fuck! With the late 70s attitude (not the political one of the 80s). There is still a need for such type of rock'n'roll nowadays.