There are numerous tutorials on YouTube that re very helpful.Originally Posted by Digital_Man
There are numerous tutorials on YouTube that re very helpful.
Yes I did that last year. I have my own Tales From Topographic Oceans of about 38 min.
“One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.”
i have a short version of Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick on a CD somewhere.... approx. 12 minutes.
I just rememembered what spurred to me do my "special radio edit" of Close To The Edge (which I incidentally played on Journey Of The Sorcerer's Apprentice tonight). It was because I thought the single that Atlantic actually put out wasn't very good. As I recall, it starts with a sped up version of the "rainforest" intro (I think I've seen it called The Birds Of Paradise), and then abruptly cuts to the Total Mass Retain section. So I tried to pull off my own version, to see if I could come up with something I found more aesthetically pleasing. I think I was kinda successful, though surely it's a subjective point and I imagine a lot of people wouldn't dig it.
That reminds me I still need to do a It's Yourself/Los Endos segue, as I've been meaning to do for the last couple years.
I did that with the Earthbound version of Groon. I cut from just a little bit after the rest of the band drops to the point where ring modulated drums kick in. I think I ended up cutting something like 3 or 4 minutes out.
Does a tape exist? I'm using mp3's and the Spreaker console, but I do a lot of cool segues on my show too. Once I did a perfectly timed segue from Oscillations by Silver Apples into As You Said by Cream. I managed to lift my finger off the play button at just the right moment so as to have the first beat of As You Said occur simultaneously with the last beat of Oscillations. Sounded perfect.
Another time I crossfaded the two sections of the studio version of Shine On You Crazy Diamond together. That took a bit of careful work, because I can only work one fader at a time, so I had to fade up Part VI, then fade out Part V. The effect I created was the wind effect fades up, with the guitar arpeggios at the end of Part V fading out as the "heartbeat" rhythm began on Part VI. And I think I got it just about perfect, with just a little bit of the hum that kicks of Welcome To The Machine audible.
Well, that probably would have been up to the record company to call for such a single release. Given all the stories I've heard of Ahmet Ertegun's active involvement with some of the bigger artists on Atlantic, it's kind of a shame he didn't hear Leaves Of Green and say "That could be a hit, let's release it as a single".
One of these days I'm going to do an edit of The Remembering and get it down to about 15 minutes. Although every time I try to figure which sections to cut, I think, "well, it would be a shame to cut the lute section out, or Rick's Mellotron padding since I like Steve's Rutherfordesque strumming. Sometimes, its better to leave well-enough alone.
I'm curious- is Journey Of The Sorcerer's Apprentice a radio show? Is it online?
Strangely enough I just did an edit of TFTO, dunno if it's an improvement but at least it's shorter.
I took some minutes out of LZs Achilles Last Stand.
And also some minutes off of side one on Kraftwerks Electric Cafe album. The last minutes of the middle part in the three song suite.
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make.
Yeah, making a single CD of The Lamb is easy, if you can use all of the available space , but cramming it into a single vinyl album is another thing...
First, I'd mostly concentrate on the first disc, keeping a lot of it, and add whatever tracks I like on side 3
Side A
2. Fly on a Windshield/Broadway Melody of 1974
5. In the Cage (8:15 >> maybe shorten it by 2 minutes if needed)
6. The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging (2:45)
7. Back in N.Y.C. (5:42 >> not essential, though)
9. Counting Out Time (3:42)
10. The Carpet Crawlers (5:15 >> edited to 3 minutes length)
Side B
1. The Chamber of 32 Doors (5:40 >> can be edited by 1/3)
2. The Waiting Room (5:24 >> edited to 3-mins length
3. Anyway (3:07)
5. The Lamia (6:57)
7. Colony of Slippermen (8:13)
a) The Arrival
b) A Visit to the Doktor
c) Raven
Of course the story won't make much sense, but it doesn't anyway
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
Yeah, in both my Cd-r and XL II-S compilations, I left Achilles close up my selection, precisely because I knew I didn't have enough time to include everything I wanted if I included it in its entirety... So I let the tape or CD-r end without having the whole thing.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
I don't really get into much, if any, classic prog stuff. I have edited some of the prog that I have liked.
I edited the FUCK YOU part of "The Water" by Spocks Beard. What I did was made two songs out of one (parts 1 and 2 separated completely). That FU part is so clumsy, so ugly, so stupid, and it ruins an otherwise killer epic.
Yes, it's online. I go live every Friday night at 8:00pm Eastern, but there's a web archive, where you can listen to any of the last few weeks' shows. The trick is, each set is archived individually, so every half hour or so, you have to go back and start the next set manually (assuming of course you haven't been nauseated by my at times questionable tastes).
The website is http://www.spreaker.com/thesorcerersapprentice
I do it all the time, I'm very selective. I edit out the parts I don't like and segue what remains as best I can.
Where did the ocean waves and synths at the beginning come from?
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MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
"It is not an obscenity to be free. It is a divine right." --Annette Peacock
N.P.:nothing
It's from the CD version. It was left off the original LP and cassette for some reason, and they restored it for the remastered CD.
What version? It’s sure not on my CD!
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MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
"It is not an obscenity to be free. It is a divine right." --Annette Peacock
N.P.:“Nur noch zwei Lichtjahre”-Virus/Revelation
^The latest Rhino reissue I believe. The first CD version to have the beginning restored.
Next up for me is editing DP Made In Japan. Taking drum solos out etc....
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make.
i have someplace here a cassette of a Hawkwind "cut and paste" on Soundedit 16 I did of "Death of War" versions for a computer animation I was working on (never finished, as something went wrong with the Spectral Infini-D ray tracing-a skull was supposed to smash through a church window with strange symbols on it to reveal an apocalyptic scene beyond it and then zoom a little past the window. The program decided to not do anything it did in the test runs and do all sorts of stuff I did not want. The section of an old fashioned radio floating in space came out very well though, but it's on a medium I can no longer access). If I find it, I will try to copy it to my computer.
Last edited by Rune Blackwings; 08-11-2013 at 12:59 PM. Reason: addendum
"Alienated-so alien I go!"
I edited out ALL the banter in the "Deep Purple in Concert" albums, and boy did it improve the experience.
That's right, sorry, should have said, since it wasn't on my original CD either. I must say it does improve the song for me. Beginning abruptly with "Dawn of fusion etc." always seemed weird to me; the ocean and Howe's soft guitar notes actually creates a nice atmosphere first.
Back in the cassette days I cut out Greg Lake's acoustic middle section of "Take a Pebble," which I thought ruined my favorite ELP song.
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