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    Anyone else curious why it isn't on Cuneiform?
    Will wayside still carry it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Czar View Post
    Anyone else curious why it isn't on Cuneiform?
    Will wayside still carry it?
    Steve F was earlier on the thread and didn't expand on this...

    But yeah, I'm curious as hell.... Knowing that Cuneiform has been in UZ's life for decades...
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    Well Steve F said it's a Japan only release and Cuneiform aren't a Japanese label though it will be available through Wayside. He didn't expand beyond that and I assume it's a DD decision and we won't hear much beyond that similar to the Berckmans sacking.
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    It is not unprecedented for Cuneiform artists to switch to other labels, sometimes to eventually return... For example, Phil Miller / In Cahoots released "Cutting Both Ways" on Cuneiform in 1989, then Phil released albums on his own label, returning to Cuneiform for 2003's "All That" then again to self-production. Similarly Present did albums for Cuneiform in the 1990s, then worked with Guy Segers' Carbon 7 label and Dave Kerman's Ad Hoc while also putting out archive releases (and the upcoming expanded reissues) on Cuneiform. The latest Muffins album came out on Musea, the second Yang (F. L'Epée's post-Philharmonie group) was self-released, etc. etc.
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    ^^^

    To that list, one can add Miriodor's Live 89 album, too....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Czar View Post
    Anyone else curious why it isn't on Cuneiform?
    We decided not to work together on this one.

    There! Satisfied? <wry smile>
    Last edited by Steve F.; 11-15-2013 at 09:19 AM.
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    I guess if that's all it is or it's something not for public knowledge, then yeah.
    I assume we'll still be able to get it through wayside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Czar View Post
    I guess if that's all it is or it's something not for public knowledge, then yeah.
    you'll have to wait for the unexpurgated memoirs.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Czar View Post
    I assume we'll still be able to get it through wayside?
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    "The older I get, the more I realize that cynicism is just realism spelled wrong."

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    It is no unprecedented for Cuneiform artists to switch to other labels, sometimes to eventually return... For example, Phil Miller / In Cahoots released "Cutting Both Ways" on Cuneiform in 1989, then Phil released albums on his own label, returning to Cuneiform for 2003's "All That" then again to self-production.
    Phil's releases in order:
    Cutting Both Ways - Cuneiform
    Split Seconds - Restless
    Digging In - Cuneiform
    Live - Mantra
    Live In Japan - Crescent
    Recent Discoveries - Crescent
    Parallel - Crescent
    Out Of The Blue - Crescent
    All That - Cuneiform
    Conspiracy Theories - MoonJune
    Mind Over Matter - Crescent

    So, yeah. Artists move around. They aren't prisoners. They can follow their muse or the hope of more money or of working with people they would rather work with at a specific time for perhaps a specific reason.

    And, of course, labels might feel the same way about wanting to do specific projects with artists. They aren't prisoners either.

    Every time someone isn't on a label where they were before is not necessarily indicative of a big deal.
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    Guapo left and came back.

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    Univers Zero not on cuneiform feels like an end of an era...and just wrong.

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    ...and I would totally buy a book about UZ!

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    In that respect Cuneiform is like The Village in The Prisoner. We think we've escaped but at the end of each episode we find ourselves back. Back in Steve's merciless clutches. The brute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavus Torabi View Post
    In that respect Cuneiform is like The Village in The Prisoner. We think we've escaped but at the end of each episode we find ourselves back. Back in Steve's merciless clutches. The brute.
    No doubt you mean this with a second degree, and Steve will probably take it as such, but it would b nice it you used emoticons/smileys to bring a little nuance...
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    Thanks, Trane. That was nice to say.

    I am good enough pals in the real world with Kavus to insert my own smiley, but thanks.

    Anyway, Kavus comes equiped with a lifetime supply of built-in smileys....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavus Torabi View Post
    In that respect Cuneiform is like The Village in The Prisoner. We think we've escaped but at the end of each episode we find ourselves back. Back in Steve's merciless clutches. The brute.
    But if you follow that analogy to its conclusion, you're actually trying to escape yourself and eventually you will discover that Steve is you.

    Which might come as a bit of shock to Steve's nearest and dearest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    Thanks, Trane. That was nice to say.

    I am good enough pals in the real world with Kavus to insert my own smiley, but thanks.

    Anyway, Kavus comes equiped with a lifetime supply of built-in smileys....
    I'd figured so, but most of us wouldn't have known this...

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    Semi colon, close brackets to you all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    I'd figured so, but most of us wouldn't have known this...
    very good point

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    As often as possible.
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    "The older I get, the more I realize that cynicism is just realism spelled wrong."

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    Ok. Just so you know, for the record, as Steve said, artists are free to come and go as they please however there's a very good reason so many go back to Cuneiform.

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    ...and it's not *only* because of the complimentary drugs.

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    Insert one of the lifetime supply of smileys here.
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