Univers Zero

**The Czar** · 11-14-2013

Anyone else curious why it isn't on Cuneiform?
Will wayside still carry it?

**Trane** · 11-15-2013

Originally Posted by The Czar

Anyone else curious why it isn't on Cuneiform?
Will wayside still carry it?

Steve F was earlier on the thread and didn't expand on this...

But yeah, I'm curious as hell.... Knowing that Cuneiform has been in UZ's life for decades...

**NogbadTheBad** · 11-15-2013

Well Steve F said it's a Japan only release and Cuneiform aren't a Japanese label though it will be available through Wayside. He didn't expand beyond that and I assume it's a DD decision and we won't hear much beyond that similar to the Berckmans sacking.

**calyx** · 11-15-2013

It is not unprecedented for Cuneiform artists to switch to other labels, sometimes to eventually return... For example, Phil Miller / In Cahoots released "Cutting Both Ways" on Cuneiform in 1989, then Phil released albums on his own label, returning to Cuneiform for 2003's "All That" then again to self-production. Similarly Present did albums for Cuneiform in the 1990s, then worked with Guy Segers' Carbon 7 label and Dave Kerman's Ad Hoc while also putting out archive releases (and the upcoming expanded reissues) on Cuneiform. The latest Muffins album came out on Musea, the second Yang (F. L'Epée's post-Philharmonie group) was self-released, etc. etc.

**Trane** · 11-15-2013

^^^

To that list, one can add Miriodor's Live 89 album, too....

**Steve F.** · 11-15-2013

Originally Posted by The Czar

Anyone else curious why it isn't on Cuneiform?

We decided not to work together on this one.

There! Satisfied? <wry smile>

**The Czar** · 11-15-2013

I guess if that's all it is or it's something not for public knowledge, then yeah.
I assume we'll still be able to get it through wayside?

**Steve F.** · 11-15-2013

Originally Posted by The Czar

I guess if that's all it is or it's something not for public knowledge, then yeah.

you'll have to wait for the unexpurgated memoirs.

Originally Posted by The Czar

I assume we'll still be able to get it through wayside?

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**Zeuhlmate** · 11-15-2013

Lets not rule out the one chance of a million that Daniel says "Let there be light"

**Steve F.** · 11-16-2013

Originally Posted by calyx

It is no unprecedented for Cuneiform artists to switch to other labels, sometimes to eventually return... For example, Phil Miller / In Cahoots released "Cutting Both Ways" on Cuneiform in 1989, then Phil released albums on his own label, returning to Cuneiform for 2003's "All That" then again to self-production.

Phil's releases in order:
Cutting Both Ways - Cuneiform
Split Seconds - Restless
Digging In - Cuneiform
Live - Mantra
Live In Japan - Crescent
Recent Discoveries - Crescent
Parallel - Crescent
Out Of The Blue - Crescent
All That - Cuneiform
Conspiracy Theories - MoonJune
Mind Over Matter - Crescent

So, yeah. Artists move around. They aren't prisoners. They can follow their muse or the hope of more money or of working with people they would rather work with at a specific time for perhaps a specific reason.

And, of course, labels might feel the same way about wanting to do specific projects with artists. They aren't prisoners either.

Every time someone isn't on a label where they were before is not necessarily indicative of a big deal.

**LighthouseKeeper** · 11-16-2013

Guapo left and came back.

**The Czar** · 11-17-2013

Univers Zero not on cuneiform feels like an end of an era...and just wrong.

**The Czar** · 11-17-2013

...and I would totally buy a book about UZ!

**Kavus Torabi** · 11-17-2013

In that respect Cuneiform is like The Village in The Prisoner. We think we've escaped but at the end of each episode we find ourselves back. Back in Steve's merciless clutches. The brute.

**Trane** · 11-17-2013

Originally Posted by Kavus Torabi

In that respect Cuneiform is like The Village in The Prisoner. We think we've escaped but at the end of each episode we find ourselves back. Back in Steve's merciless clutches. The brute.

No doubt you mean this with a second degree, and Steve will probably take it as such, but it would b nice it you used emoticons/smileys to bring a little nuance...

**Steve F.** · 11-17-2013

Thanks, Trane. That was nice to say.

I am good enough pals in the real world with Kavus to insert my own smiley, but thanks.

Anyway, Kavus comes equiped with a lifetime supply of built-in smileys....

**Kai** · 11-17-2013

Originally Posted by Kavus Torabi

In that respect Cuneiform is like The Village in The Prisoner. We think we've escaped but at the end of each episode we find ourselves back. Back in Steve's merciless clutches. The brute.

But if you follow that analogy to its conclusion, you're actually trying to escape yourself and eventually you will discover that Steve is you.

Which might come as a bit of shock to Steve's nearest and dearest.

**Trane** · 11-18-2013

Originally Posted by Steve F.

Thanks, Trane. That was nice to say.

I am good enough pals in the real world with Kavus to insert my own smiley, but thanks.

Anyway, Kavus comes equiped with a lifetime supply of built-in smileys....

I'd figured so, but most of us wouldn't have known this...

Please kiss your charming better half for me...

**Kavus Torabi** · 11-18-2013

Semi colon, close brackets to you all.

**Steve F.** · 11-18-2013

Originally Posted by Trane

I'd figured so, but most of us wouldn't have known this...

very good point

Originally Posted by Trane

Please kiss your charming better half for me...

As often as possible.

**Kavus Torabi** · 11-18-2013

Ok. Just so you know, for the record, as Steve said, artists are free to come and go as they please however there's a very good reason so many go back to Cuneiform.