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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post
    Titles schmiddles.... I teared up as this will be the final chapter of a mission I've been on since 1977 when I walked into Mann's Chinese Theatre and felt my seat rumble & shake as that Imperial Star Destroyer first appeared on screen.
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    I was expecting to be kinda meh, but it made my nips stiffen
    Me as well. It's the end of a lifetime roller coaster ride for me.

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    I like that title. It's the first time "Skywalker" has appeared in one of the actual movie titles, so I think that's cool.
    I don't mind the title, but it implies a heavier meaning than we know now.

    This trailer has me seriously intrigued. I loved The Last Jedi, so I just hope that this movie doesn't try to "course correct" and sacrifice the character development or setups that TLJ laid out.
    Well, you know I disagree with you on this, but that is EXACTLY what it appears Abrams is doing. I have been trying not to spoiler alert myself to death, but by many accounts he's going to finish the story he intended to tell one way or another.
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    Johnson made some truly bizarre (IMO) creative choices in TLJ.

    They should retcon everything after '77 and film Splinter of the Mind's Eye.

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    Johnson made some truly bizarre (IMO) creative choices in TLJ.

    They should retcon everything after '77 and film Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
    Would love to see a Splinter movie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    You that old? I saw the first film on the day it was released in '77. Long line, everyone lighting up. Loads of fun. I had a poster and all. That poster would be worth a nice chunk-o-change today. Alas, it has been lost to the sands of time.
    In our area it took 3 attempts to see the movie.. long lines each time, first two times someone came out and counted off the people and told the rest of us to go home.. It felt like being turned away from seeing the wizard.. So much hype leading up to the movie.. after seeing it first question to anyone you saw on the street.. "Did you see it?" The other memory about the first one was when you got to the ticket window the price was $5. Which was unheard of in those days..

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    Liked the trailer, will be excited to see the movie next Christmas.

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    A few thoughts:

    1. Which Skywalker rises? Since I'm hearing Palpatine, I think we may see a return of Anakin.
    2. Did they have enough Carrie Fisher footage left over to work her into this film?
    3. Like Han in Force Awakens and Lando here - do people in the Star Wars universe dress exactly the same for 40 years?
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    I saw one guy's absurd theory that Rey is AnaVaderkin's daughter and hence the title is a "twist." That's hilarious, because she's supposed to be 19 in TFA. More funny: That would make her Kylo's aunt. That's some bad math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    I saw one guy's absurd theory that Rey is AnaVaderkin's daughter and hence the title is a "twist." That's hilarious, because she's supposed to be 19 in TFA. More funny: That would make her Kylo's aunt. That's some bad math.
    One theory that keeps popping up is supported by two parts in the teaser which show Death Star ruins (presumably from ROTJ) and Palpatine's laugh. The thought is that Palpatine cloned himself and is at these ruins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    Johnson made some truly bizarre (IMO) creative choices in TLJ.

    They should retcon everything after '77 and film Splinter of the Mind's Eye.

    Interestingly enough, you can pretty much erase the entirety of TLJ from the canon except for the deaths of Luke, Snoke, and Phasma. The First Order is still strong. The Resistance is still weak. At least from a character standpoint:

    Rey - had her training experience and progression, but nothing really changed.
    Finn - Spent most of his time on a subplot.
    Poe - Temporarily humbled
    Leia - Her strongest moment was learning she watched Mary Poppins.
    Chewbacca - He likes Porgs
    Kylo - Johnson destroyed his helmet, which apparently is getting replaced by J.J.
    BB8, C-3PO, R2D2 - nothing different

    Even Snoke can be "forgotten". I'm not sure of J.J. and his original intentions, but I'm thinking he intended Luke and Leia to be in the final film. So that's no small road bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    I'm not sure of J.J. and his original intentions, but I'm thinking he intended Luke and Leia to be in the final film.
    Copy that. One thing I did like that RJ did was restoring Yoda. By that I mean he was the same Yoda we first got in Empire. The Yoda from the Prequels felt tragically different to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    One theory that keeps popping up is supported by two parts in the teaser which show Death Star ruins (presumably from ROTJ)[/I] and Palpatine's laugh. The thought is that Palpatine cloned himself and is at these ruins.
    I was amused to see how...intact...that superlaser dish looked, like it floated down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    You that old? I saw the first film on the day it was released in '77. Long line, everyone lighting up. Loads of fun. I had a poster and all. That poster would be worth a nice chunk-o-change today. Alas, it has been lost to the sands of time.
    I saw Star Wars UK opening night that XMAS 77 with my parents and two younger brothers at the Theatre in Leceister Square.

    Afterwards, my Dad was approached by someone to do an interview on what we all thought and he turned it down. Later on, he told me it was Playboy...but i still dont believe that.

    I was still living on London when Empire arrived. Ended up seeing it nine times in theaters with my school mates across west and north London.

    As noted elsewherethreads I truly enjoyed TLJ and was appreciative of the upheaval in direction style and tone.

    Watched teaser with my 12 year old son - we are looking forward to the release. [emoji106]
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    OK, here's a stupid question for this thread. Is Luke really dead? I mean, all we saw in the last film was him collapsing. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splicer View Post
    A few thoughts:


    3. Like Han in Force Awakens and Lando here - do people in the Star Wars universe dress exactly the same for 40 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    talking about Star Wars online is no longer fun as a fan for me.
    This is about where I'm at as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    Well, you know I disagree with you on this, but that is EXACTLY what it appears Abrams is doing. I have been trying not to spoiler alert myself to death, but by many accounts he's going to finish the story he intended to tell one way or another.
    Oh I know. I don't believe anything needed "corrected" after TLJ, but I suspect we'll be getting something closer in tone to The Force Awakens than anything as different or weird as Rian Johnson's film.

    That said, I don't think JJ ever intended to tell the whole story. He helped get it kicked off, but the plan was never for him to write or direct any of the sequels -- and he even had to be convinced by some other folks (including his wife, and Kathleen Kennedy I believe) to direct The Force Awakens, because at first he didn't want to. Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow were lined up to helm the sequels quite a bit in advance before TFA even came out.

    Thank goodness Trevorrow isn't doing Episode 9 though. I'd much rather have Abrams than him.


    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    Interestingly enough, you can pretty much erase the entirety of TLJ from the canon except for the deaths of Luke, Snoke, and Phasma. The First Order is still strong. The Resistance is still weak. At least from a character standpoint:

    Rey - had her training experience and progression, but nothing really changed.
    Finn - Spent most of his time on a subplot.
    Poe - Temporarily humbled
    Leia - Her strongest moment was learning she watched Mary Poppins.
    Chewbacca - He likes Porgs
    Kylo - Johnson destroyed his helmet, which apparently is getting replaced by J.J.
    BB8, C-3PO, R2D2 - nothing different

    Even Snoke can be "forgotten". I'm not sure of J.J. and his original intentions, but I'm thinking he intended Luke and Leia to be in the final film. So that's no small road bump.
    Well, Poe was not just "temporarily humbled", but he actually grew from a reckless flyboy into a leader by the end of the movie. That was the point of his arc.

    I don't think JJ actually had much of it mapped out at all for the trilogy. It sounds like he just worked on the story for TFA with Lawrence Kasdan after the screenplay from Arndt was rejected. There might have been a general overarching idea of where the movies would go from there, but obviously nothing was set in stone because Rian Johnson had free reign to do what he wanted with the next movie.

    IMO, Abrams kinda painted Rian into a corner by setting up these mysteries in TFA that he had no intention of answering himself -- Why was Luke in hiding? Who were the Knights of Ren? How did Kylo get turned to the dark side? The identity of Rey's parents? Who is Snoke? As much as I love Abrams, his mystery box approach doesn't always work for me.

    Rian had to come up with some answers. For example, finding a convincing way of portraying Luke so that it made sense that he sat out all of TFA on an island while the First Order was blowing up entire solar systems and whatever. I certainly don't envy him!

    So as much flak as Rian gets for his choices, some of the "blame" should go to Abrams as well if you ask me because he set those plot elements in motion.

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    But, but, dude...Canto Bight...bleah!

    Almost fitting of that legacy, Star Wars: The Last Jedi is the subject of much debate. There's a lot of topics flying about, but the scenes in Canto Bight seem to be one of the key parts of the film that nearly all audiences and critics have disliked. And when looking for reasons why the tangential casino trip feels so out of place, it's hard not to draw comparisons to the worst parts of the prequels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    But, but, dude...Canto Bight...bleah!
    The Canto Bight stuff was the only aspect of the movie I didn't care for.

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    More Jar-Jar Binks!!!

    Actually, did Disney really fork out a Billion to acquire Star Wars just to kill it off after a measly three or four episodes? Did I catch that right? That this is the last one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodelgoat View Post
    More Jar-Jar Binks!!!

    Actually, did Disney really fork out a Billion to acquire Star Wars just to kill it off after a measly three or four episodes? Did I catch that right? That this is the last one?
    Last of the 9-movie series. There will be Star Wars films and other media to last far beyond our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    The Canto Bight stuff was the only aspect of the movie I didn't care for.
    So you were cool with that slow chase? Freakin' Khan did more damage with the Reliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    Leia - Her strongest moment was learning she watched Mary Poppins.


    I'm not as big a critic of Johnson's decisions as many others, but that was pretty silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    So you were cool with that slow chase? Freakin' Khan did more damage with the Reliant.
    Yeah, I liked that the movie was basically structured around the heroes being chased by the bad guys. Had no qualms with that whatsoever, and in fact found it to be refreshing for a Star Wars movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    Yeah, I liked that the movie was basically structured around the heroes being chased by the bad guys. Had no qualms with that whatsoever, and in fact found it to be refreshing for a Star Wars movie.
    It felt contrived to me, the "wear down their shields" rigamarole. Even in Trek, a ship's shields can't sustain a prolonged barrage. Laura Dern's character was a waste of space, too. Her big moment should have been Admiral Ackbar's.

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