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    There was a famous Jewish deli on Miami Beach for many decades called Wolfie's. I never tried it. It's been gone for a few years now. A shame.
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    When I was 10 (1955), my dad & I flew to Miami to see my paternal grandparents, aunts & uncles. I remember we all ate at Wolfie's.

    My dad's younger brother Eddie (real name Herman) co-owned 2 of the best Italian restaurants in Miami Beach, Angie & Fred's and Piccolo's, at the time.
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    Once upon a time in Phoenix, we had an amusement park called Legend City. In the intervening decades since it's been gone, there have been discussions about building a new amusement park, but those talks never came to fruition.

    Another fond memory is of drive-in theaters. Since one paid by the carload rather than per person, it made it possible for a poor family such as mine to go to the movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    My dad's younger brother Eddie (real name Herman) co-owned 2 of the best Italian restaurants in Miami Beach, Angie & Fred's and Piccolo's, at the time.
    Funny how that works. I've been to exceptionally good Italian restaurants run by folks of the Hebrew persuasion. There are two wonderful Italian places up this way, one in Malden, MA, and one in Boston, where the chefs are from El Salvador and China, respectively.
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    On a visit to NYC, I finally got to Carnegie Deli. I had the brisket. It was to die for. At least I made it before the place closed.
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    On a visit to NYC, I finally got to Carnegie Deli. I had the brisket. It was to die for. At least I made it before the place closed.
    There was a local Carnegie Deli, but in Carnegie, PA, and not the same owners. They shut him down on a trademark infringement. My neighbor asked why they should care that a Pittsburgh-area deli had the same name. I explained that, what if someone ate at the Pittsburgh one first and had a shitty Corned Beef on Rye, and then went to NY and avoided the original one because of his experience in Pittsburgh.

    That's how trademark infringement works, my man.
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    My dad's younger brother Eddie (real name Herman)

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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    I order corned beef, pastrami & potato knishes twice a year from Katz's. I wince but bite the bullet on both the prices and the refrigerated shipping.
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    [QUOTE=progmatist;886509

    Another fond memory is of drive-in theaters. Since one paid by the carload rather than per person, it made it possible for a poor family such as mine to go to the movies.[/QUOTE]

    Yup, drive in theaters are a thing of the past around here too. We had two in town when I was growing up. All the families would be in the front, the couples in the middle and the party people in the back. Good times.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    Yup, drive in theaters are a thing of the past around here too. We had two in town when I was growing up. All the families would be in the front, the couples in the middle and the party people in the back. Good times.....
    We had a two screen drive in, back to back. One of us ( with a car ) would get the money for a ticket and bring the keg and lawn chairs. The rest of us would go through one of the gaping holes in the fencing. 'B' movie's, Kung foo westerns, last year's not hits. Good times.

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    I haven't gone to many drive ins but I remember seeing Live And Let Die at a drive in in 1973.

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    I've got a drive-in about 2 minutes away. I know where a couple more are around here too.
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    Fyi, what's cool about the Orthodox Jews at the Russian Turkish baths is that they smoke weed and they share. I thought it was interesting that you really get to no some on there. I was thought they stuck together and don't associate with the goyim. But that's one exception. On Sundays was be the best days in the morning because the Jews come in and usually are butt naked in the sauna. I would go down to the Green Market at Thompson Square Park and pick up some fruit. The peaches were super delicious and juicy... especially after smoking some weed it felt like my taste buds would explode into orgasms, I even shared it with a Jew it said you got to try this!!
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    As a little Yiddle, my parents used to make a Sunday of the 3 of us driving over the Koscuiuszko Bridge from Queens into lower Manhattan and going both to Katz's to eat and to S. Ershowsky the kosher butcher (even though we all ate bacon).
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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    I order corned beef, pastrami & potato knishes twice a year from Katz's. I wince but bite the bullet on both the prices and the refrigerated shipping.

    As a little Yiddle, my parents used to make a Sunday of the 3 of us driving over the Koscuiuszko Bridge from Queens into lower Manhattan and going both to Katz's to eat and to S. Ershowsky the kosher butcher (even though we all ate bacon).
    Yer making my mouth water. When I was a kid we could walk to a Kosher supermarket and bakery and get really good bagels. We had bagels and lox and all the trimmings for Sunday breakfast (I actually preferred the onion rolls, man they were good). The Kosher supermarket was also called Katz...long...long gone and replaced with the latest identical chain store vomited upon us from our corporate overloards and purveyors of culturcide.
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    Is there a decent substitute in Manhattan for H&H Bagels yet?
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    Over the past few years, Boston lost two of its most iconic restaurants, Locke-Ober, running continuously under that name since 1875 and under other names starting 15 years earlier; and also Durgin-Park, in operation since 1827 after being the home of other restaurants since 1742.

    I guess I'm part of the problem, since I never actually went to either place, but I always thought it would be nice to give them a try someday.

    Edit: I forgot about Jacob Wirth, in the same category. Opened in 1868, closed last year, though they're looking for a buyer.
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    The summer between college and my last year of high school, my family spent a few days in Vegas. That's 1975, and all the classic hotels still were around. It was a blast, the place still had a little bit of that mob mentality. Me and my brother ran around the Strip some, getting kicked out of casinos, hitting the buffet at Circus Circus, and watching a jai alai match. There was betting so of course, Vinnie and Sal eventually showed us the door. But it was a freaking blast.

    Went back about ten years ago and all the old places are gone, there's this corporate sheen to everything, and a lot of the energy seemed manufactured. The only improvement seemed to be the food - I ate meals I could only compare to my experience in NYC. But I'm with Loony, the town eats its own heritage on a regular basis.
    So true. I like to say I grew up in a town but now live in a city, and that town was so much cooler(even if it was run by the mob heck it's just run by a different mob nowadays). Interestingly, I just looked up the old Red Rock Movie theater because of this and found this quote.

    "I miss the Red Rock and I loathe Las Vegas for it’s careless mindless sense of history." That about sums it up. Frakking houses instead of a cultural landmark. Sure, we need more houses.

    You guys have some cool stories. What was that year, 1742? Crikey, Las Vegas was incorporated in 1905. That just a wee bit older than what I'm whining about.

    ETA: So forgot to add about the food here. It's really amazing. Get off the Strip, just take a random road and you will find some amazing food and it won't nearly cost as much. There's a smokehouse in the Red Rock casino way out west that looks totally clean, really nice atmosphere so, killer place(lobster tail $79, no kidding) with the two most beautiful bartenders I have ever seen in my life. Again, no kidding. That's just one place I've seen here and there's a whole boatload of that all over the place.

    Truly, about the only thing I like about Vegas is the food here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoony View Post
    Truly, about the only thing I like about Vegas is the food here.
    I'll add the only thing I like about Casinos in Vegas is the buffets. Wynn was the best, followed by Bellagio (circa 2007)..don't know about now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoony View Post
    I'll derail a thread any day if I feel it's necessary so here goes. Heck, I started it so I can derail it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoony View Post
    Interestingly, I just looked up the old Red Rock Movie theater because of this and found this quote.

    "I miss the Red Rock and I loathe Las Vegas for it’s careless mindless sense of history."
    That quote even had the typo in it?


    I have never been to Vegas, but I always said that, if I ever went there, I would drive through the Strip just to check it out and keep going into the desert and mountains, which interests me far more.

    I have no interest in gambling or the gambling scene. Hell, I haven't even been to Atlantic City since the 1960s and decided to preserve my fond memories (including the famed Steel Pier Show) before it turned into a shit hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    I've got a drive-in about 2 minutes away. I know where a couple more are around here too.
    There's one about 15 minutes from where I live, located on the nearest Indigenous Nation. It's right next to the store where I bought cigarettes, before I was able to kick the habit.

    The one my family attended most often growing up had playground equipment immediately in front of the screens. That gave kids something to do while waiting for the sun to set, enabling the movie(s) to start.
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    But you had to get back to the car to watch the comics, although The Pink Panther cartoons lacked dialog.
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    ^^ 2 of my favorite cartoons didn't have any dialogue whatsoever: The Pink Panther, and The Roadrunner. Oh, and the early Tom and Jerry cartoons, when they were still adversaries and not yet friends.
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    There were a couple drive-ins in the area where I went to college. I remember one that was running a double feature of "cheerleader" movies - those of you coming of age in the 70s will remember those. We threw a couch into the back of a pickup, got beer, and drove over to catch this special presentation. Put the couch in front of the pickup, cranked up the speakers, and kicked back for some classic soft adult fare. Good times indeed.
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