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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by AndiSexgang View Post
    Most of the versions on Neil Young's Live Rust, with three exceptions:
    1. Powderfinger. which is much better on Rust Never Sleeps.
    2. I am A Child, which is much better as the gentle, acoustic Buffalo Springfield studio version.
    3. Sugar Mountain, which is much better as the gentle, acoustic folk song that it is on Decade.
    I prefer the Arc Weld version of Cortez the Killer to that on Live Rust, but Live Rust has the better Like A Hurricane.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by 3RDegree_Robert View Post
    Didn't the live version of Paul McCartney's "Coming Up" get more airplay than the studio version for whatever reason? The name of this post made me think of this immediately.

    Yes; the Live version of "Coming Up" got more spins on the radio than the studio version (and it's the version of the song that was placed on the Wingspan Hits & History 2CD set). For me it got the nod it's So Much Better than the studio version.

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    Can't forget about these Live Gems:

    Weather Report; "Black Market", "Teen Town", "Freezing Fire", "Cucumber Slumber" (from Live And Unreleased) and "8:30", "Sightseeing", "Gibraltar", "Scarlet Woman" (from The Legendary Live Tapes).

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    Plenty of Floyd to choose from but Embryo always caught my ear as one that improved with the 10+ min version I've heard on several boots..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndiSexgang View Post
    Most of the versions on Neil Young's Live Rust, with three exceptions:
    1. Powderfinger. which is much better on Rust Never Sleeps. . .
    Um, isn't Rust Never Sleeps a live album also...
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    There's a ton of Who songs that were better live but one that I always insist on is the version of "Won't Get Fooled Again" off The Kids Are Alright soundtrack. It's just ANGRY!
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    Little Feat-Waiting For Columbus

    I rarely bother with the studio albums, except for Sailin' Shoes.

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    "The Knife" from Genesis Live is obviously the definitive version as that Hackett solo is absolutely amazing!!!
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    TARKUS - WBMFTTSTNEL&GELP All others are imposters, especially the studio version.

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    Much of U2s canon are better live, especially the Wide Awake in America EP; A Sort of Homecoming, from their Unforgettable Fire album, is a dirge but on WAiA its transformed into an anthem. Excellent sound quality as well.

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Yes, Bill is on Cinema Show joined by Phil during the keyboard-solo.
    On Three Sides Live he's playing on the closing section of fourth side: It/Watcher Of The Skies (should play that side more often, because it starts with One For The Vine).
    Slightly OT: just noticed that the liner-notes from Three Sides Live from the Box-set 1973-2007 doesn't mention Steve Hackett playing on It/Watcher Of The Skies.
    I also have the Japanese Toshiba-version which does mention him playing on this 1976 recording.

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    There's a ton of Who songs that were better live but one that I always insist on is the version of "Won't Get Fooled Again" off The Kids Are Alright soundtrack. It's just ANGRY!
    Townshend was pissed that Jeff Stein made them do a second take (seriously, the version in the movie is stitched together from two takes, and Stein tells on the DVD commentary how upset Pete was when he asked for them to "do it again"). That's why it's "angry"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesstiles View Post
    ......every single King Crimson song from the Bruford/Wetton era except for "Larks' One" and "Starless."
    Definitive larks 1 and red for me come from the current lineups live in Toronto album -just searing aggressive play from the band and all parts fire on all cylinders. The addition of double bass drumming to red just makes it utterly ferocious even more so than it already is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerking View Post
    Saga - No Regrets on In Transit comes off a lot better than the version on Worlds Apart and I'd take just about any live version of Humble Stance over their studio version
    You're Not Alone from the same album blows the 'Images at Twilight' studio version away. For me it's the main reason for owning that album. But yeah, agree with also on No Regrets and Humble Stance. Damn Tight Band!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    Paul McCartney & Wings - Wings Over America - just about every Wings tune here is better than its studio counterpart.


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    Always the definitive versions for me. Never liked the speeded up chipmunk vocals on the album. Led Zeppelin was a LIVE band. So visceral and powerful, yet could be just as sensitive and nuanced in a live situation. I hadn't visited this in a long time... Bonzo and JPJ, I mean what a rhythm section for Page to just go off over it. Pure magic.


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    The 70s were The era of classic live albums.

    A few to add:

    Wishbone Ash - Live Dates
    BeBop Deluxe - Live in the Air Age
    Santana - Moonflower ( most of it)
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    The best version of "Games Without Frontiers" has to be on the PG Live in Athens BluRay. So much fire & energy from that band of then 30-something musicians and a strutting, goose-stepping PG to lead them.

  21. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by flowerking View Post
    Grateful Dead - someone already mentioned Dark Star, I'll throw in St Stephen > The Eleven from Live Dead (mostly because the studio version of St. Stephen fades out before they segue into The Eleven), but also from Europe 72 that version of China Cat over the studio version.
    Another track from the same run of shows that didn't make it onto Live/Dead that was also better than the studio version is Cosmic Charlie. It has much more grit and pow! than it does on the studio version.

    Another interesting point about Live/Dead is that scrap of improv you hear at the very beginning of side one, before they launch into Dark Star proper, is actually the very end of Mountains Of The Moon. They do this, I think on all four of the Fillmore West shows from this run, and they did it at least one other occasion, in Boston a few weeks later, where they play a quasi-acoustic version of Mountains Of The Moon (with Garcia and Weir on acoustic guitars, and TC on electric organ) which then segues into a jam that in turn segues into a fully electric Dark Star.

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    May have already been mentioned but listening to Moonflower (Santana) today and you gotta give Carlos props.. he brings a whole different level to his songs in a live setting.. Europa stands out for one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by happytheman View Post
    May have already been mentioned but listening to Moonflower (Santana) today and you gotta give Carlos props.. he brings a whole different level to his songs in a live setting.. Europa stands out for one..
    There's a great version of Europa on the Viva Santana best of, where he sustains a single note for something like 90 seconds. Not feedback, he hits one note and holds it with the most amazing sustain you've ever heard in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post

    Another interesting point about Live/Dead is that scrap of improv you hear at the very beginning of side one, before they launch into Dark Star proper, is actually the very end of Mountains Of The Moon. They do this, I think on all four of the Fillmore West shows from this run, and they did it at least one other occasion, in Boston a few weeks later, where they play a quasi-acoustic version of Mountains Of The Moon (with Garcia and Weir on acoustic guitars, and TC on electric organ) which then segues into a jam that in turn segues into a fully electric Dark Star.
    They did that Mountains of the Moon->Dark Star transition a few other times in early 1969. One Dick's Picks has a show 4/26/69 where the Mountains outro leads to China Cat Sunflower instead of Dark Star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pb2015 View Post
    They did that Mountains of the Moon->Dark Star transition a few other times in early 1969. One Dick's Picks has a show 4/26/69 where the Mountains outro leads to China Cat Sunflower instead of Dark Star.
    Yeah, you're talking about Dick's Picks Vol. 26, with that particular combo being from the Chicago show, which also had the 40 minute Viola Lee Blues/Feedback/What's Become Of The Baby/We Bid You Goodnight encore which has remained unreleased (Viola Lee Blues appears on a compilation called Fall Out From The Phil Zone, but the last 20 minutes of the sequence reputedly exists only on a tape that's not considered good enough quality for release, or some similar excuse).

    There's a really good Mountains Of The Moon/Dark Star/St Stephen/The Eleven suite on one of the shows from The Ark, in Boston, from 4/22/69, which is really good too. That's actually the first version I heard of that Mountains.../Dark Star combination as I didn't get to hear the unedited 2/22 show until sometime in the internet era.

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