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    Just listening fantastic album called FACE (2017) by gentlemen Pat Mastelotto and Markus Reuter.

    You say "whoah those dudes are not our revered avant heroes!". Well maybe not but I feel this album fits right into the "genre" as it is quite complex instrumental music without any compromises to commerciality and it is composed using kind of academic methods (which gotta make it AVANT!).

    If you are unfamiliar with the album I recommend reading this cool interview about it: https://www.innerviews.org/inner/pat...-markus-reuter
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    Was checking out another Lyon based band last night, Ça, noisy edgy jazz math rock. Good stuff.

    https://ecouteca.bandcamp.com/album/24615

    https://ecouteca.bandcamp.com/album/378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrimso View Post
    Just listening fantastic album called FACE (2017) by gentlemen Pat Mastelotto and Markus Reuter.

    You say "whoah those dudes are not our revered avant heroes!". Well maybe not but I feel this album fits right into the "genre" as it is quite complex instrumental music without any compromises to commerciality and it is composed using kind of academic methods (which gotta make it AVANT!).

    If you are unfamiliar with the album I recommend reading this cool interview about it: https://www.innerviews.org/inner/pat...-markus-reuter
    Samples are up on bandcamp but you can't buy it as download only.

    https://mastelottoreuter.bandcamp.com/album/face
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    Now listening: Stevan Kovacs Tickmayer : Repetitive Selective Removal Of One Protecting Group (2005)

    REALLY far out stuff by The Science Group maestro Tickmayer. Absurdly complicated music which I don't know if it even can be called avant-prog as it seems to be more related to the field of contemporary art music. Anyway, really interesting music but I have to admit that I don't know yet (after two listens) how much I really enjoy listening to it.
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    Sean Noonan Pavees Dance - Tan Man's Hat, on RareNoise, to be released on March 29th

    Featuring first Can's singer Malcolm Mooney, Jamaaladeen Tacuma on bass (Ornette Coleman's Prime Time), Ava Mendoza on guitars and Alex Marcelo on keys, plus Sean Noonan on drums. Not exactly avant prog, looks like avant- XXX.



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    ^ ^

    Jamaaladeen is great, Ava is great, Malcolm is a real wild card and I don’t think I know the other two. Sounds interesting!
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    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrimso View Post
    Now listening: Stevan Kovacs Tickmayer : Repetitive Selective Removal Of One Protecting Group (2005)

    REALLY far out stuff by The Science Group maestro Tickmayer. Absurdly complicated music which I don't know if it even can be called avant-prog as it seems to be more related to the field of contemporary art music. Anyway, really interesting music but I have to admit that I don't know yet (after two listens) how much I really enjoy listening to it.
    Amazing album really. There is so much information being presented that I think a work like this is difficult to fully wrap your head around unless you give it the proper time and attention. Glad you're digging it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Was checking out another Lyon based band last night, Ça, noisy edgy jazz math rock. Good stuff.

    https://ecouteca.bandcamp.com/album/24615

    https://ecouteca.bandcamp.com/album/378
    This is great! Thanks for the tip.

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    n.p.:
    Aksak Maboul (2 in a row!):
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    - Un Peu de l'Âme des Bandits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCC View Post
    n.p.:
    Aksak Maboul (2 in a row!):
    - Onze Danses Pour Combattre la Migraine.
    - Un Peu de l'Âme des Bandits.
    Of interest!

    From bandcamp:
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    “Get all 6 Aksak Maboul releases available on Bandcamp and save 30% ... .

    https://aksakmaboul.bandcamp.com/alb...re-la-migraine

    Regards!.

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    Sample track from the upcoming PoiL album due April 26th

    https://poil.bandcamp.com/album/sus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    This slays, y'all need to get it:

    https://theflyingluttenbachers.bandc...ered-dimension

    If there's a better album in the "brutal prog" arena this year - well, it'll have to be something pretty f'ing amazing.
    Got it. It can turn people into flat-earthers. Because it flattens the Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Sample track from the upcoming PoiL album due April 26th

    https://poil.bandcamp.com/album/sus
    new POIL is great. A little less frantic but no less inventive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    This slays, y'all need to get it:

    https://theflyingluttenbachers.bandc...ered-dimension

    If there's a better album in the "brutal prog" arena this year - well, it'll have to be something pretty f'ing amazing.
    Have to say I struggle with these guys, I got about 2/3 of the way through and had to go play something else to rest my ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Have to say I struggle with these guys, I got about 2/3 of the way through and had to go play something else to rest my ears.
    Ian, coming from you that really is saying something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    new POIL is great. A little less frantic but no less inventive.
    First song sounded good and little bit calmer approach is welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zappathustra View Post
    Got it. It can turn people into flat-earthers. Because it flattens the Earth.
    I really thought this could be the Luttenbachers album to finally break through with the symph crowd. I mean look:

    1. It has Epitaph. Epitaph, dude!*

    2. There's a 21-minute prog** epic! With mellotrons*** and harmony vox!****

    Surely a five-star review in Porg magazine can't be long in coming?




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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Have to say I struggle with these guys, I got about 2/3 of the way through and had to go play something else to rest my ears.
    I tend to treat it as an album of two sides (1-3 and 4-5) and listen to one or the other. Ingesting the whole 55 minutes at once may come with time and familiarity...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    2. There's a 21-minute prog** epic! With mellotrons*** and harmony vox!****
    The whole album is sick. But Mutation just doubles the stakes of sickness.

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    I hope that excellent debut of Kombo C, a jazz-rock band from ex-homeland of the First Lady, is "avant-prog" enough

    https://komboc.bandcamp.com/album/petelin-iz-noznega

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    ^ I don't know if it qualifies - and I really don't care if it doesn't - but I listened 2 in a row and it's great. So thanks (and welcome back man!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juba View Post
    I hope that excellent debut of Kombo C, a jazz-rock band from ex-homeland of the First Lady, is "avant-prog" enough

    https://komboc.bandcamp.com/album/petelin-iz-noznega
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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    Ian, coming from you that really is saying something.
    Weasel Walter's entire artistic agenda is to formulate expressions of extremity - he's stated so himself on several occasions. He'd be unsuccessful at it if listeners were to actually "enjoy" the act of taking in his music. As such, I kinda like The Flying Luttenbachers - but I certainly don't enjoy too much of it at a time. It's painful sound, all the more intensely experienced because it's not mere noise but actually composed sonic matter.

    Their one - sole - gig here in Oslo (at Blå in 2004, I believe) has gained near-mythical reputation with 'extreme fringe' fans in recent years, mostly due to the fact that many attendees simply used the appearance as a test-of-endurance and so a token to capacities of integrity. Apparently not many audience members prevailed the ordeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    He'd be unsuccessful at it if listeners were to actually "enjoy" the act of taking in his music.
    WW: "I think of music as education and/or punishment"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zappathustra View Post
    WW: "I think of music as education and/or punishment"
    Ah...The George Bush the Elder - Manuel Noriega School of Music.

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