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    Quote Originally Posted by zravkapt View Post
    What will artists considered "prog" in 2029 sound like? Will there still be bands that go out of their way to sound like something from 1974?
    We'd be talking about proto-prog and proto-proto-prog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zravkapt View Post
    2029 will be the 40th anniversary of the Crimson "definitive edition" cds...they should remaster them.
    Yeppers, I'm fairly sure they'll be coming out as part of a 250-disc, 48-bit-remastered, stamped-on-discs-of-pure-iridium, deluxe box set around that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz_d_kidd View Post
    We all like prog and identify prog by certain attributes of the music, however difficult it is to name those attributes. If the music veers off so much that it no longer has those attributes, it is no longer prog. It is something else. A new genre.

    It's kinda like starting with some yellow paint. You can change the color by adding other pigments, but if you change it too drastically, say by adding too much blue to make it green, it is no longer yellow. It is a something else. A new color.

    So by definition, that which we will call prog in 2029 (or 2059) will have the required attributes and sound reminiscent of that which we call prog today. Otherwise, it's not prog.
    Fantastic, except that it's by definition plain wrong, seeing how it completely omits attention to the rather essential axiom of detail that "prog" as concept differs between subjective sender/receiver. In the end it merely comes down to wildly varying levels of insights and interpretation as to given taxonomy. This was luckily why my work colleague was (by the very same definition) wrong when he heard Yes and designated them "[…] not a rock band"; I was forced to explain him certain things which it somehow turned out he wasn't exactly aware of previously. And then, albeit with some reluctance even confronted with academic source and footnotes, he gave in. Yes, at it appeared, was rock after all.

    Although he didn't necessarily like them.
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    A resurgence of punk and new wave will make prog even more passe than it is now. A neo-neo-prog will emerge to replace prog and neoprog.
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    Will prog fans have moved out of their parents basements by then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz_d_kidd View Post
    We all like prog and identify prog by certain attributes of the music, however difficult it is to name those attributes. If the music veers off so much that it no longer has those attributes, it is no longer prog. It is something else. A new genre.

    It's kinda like starting with some yellow paint. You can change the color by adding other pigments, but if you change it too drastically, say by adding too much blue to make it green, it is no longer yellow. It is a something else. A new color.

    So by definition, that which we will call prog in 2029 (or 2059) will have the required attributes and sound reminiscent of that which we call prog today. Otherwise, it's not prog.
    Hmmm. Well, I think for that to work, you'd have to define "prog" as a specific color to start which is fine if you are defining parameters. But then once you throw the "Prog vs. progressive" curveball, it sets up an entirely different narrative. There will always be a segment of musicians aspiring to create forward leaning music, so in the spirit of things, the progressive spirit will largely remain the same - it will just sound different. Ironically it's that music which seeks to emulate past that we call "Prog" that would be no longer progressive in that case.

    Anyway, there's no need to look into the future to see this. It's already occurred. Progressive music made today seeks to move forward (whether successful or not). Prog seeks to remain traditional. There's enjoyment and merit to be had in both.
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    Prog is a rainbow man! That's what make it prog!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Will prog fans have moved out of their parents basements by then?
    I have a friend in his 50's (used to work for Steve F so he can vouch for me) and no, he will never move out of his parent's basement...
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    Despite the cheerful atmosphere here, I am not too optimistic. We need new blood urgently. I mean people in their 20's listening to and playing our music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabreath View Post
    Prog is a rainbow man! That's what make it prog!
    Duuuude


    Quote Originally Posted by Zappathustra View Post
    Despite the cheerful atmosphere here, I am not too optimistic. We need new blood urgently. I mean people in their 20's listening to and playing our music.
    I believe this will naturally happen, in so far that there will always be a counter-culture to the pop world. What shape it will take is anyone's guess, but it won't sound like Yes and Genesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    it won't sound like Yes and Genesis.


    Will it sound more, like, modern, then? ELP meets MC Hammer, Steve Wilsen and Nickelblack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post


    Will it sound more, like, modern, then?
    No, silly. Post-modern!
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    There aren't many basements here in the Phoenix area. The ground never freezes, so they've never been necessary. I couldn't live in my parents' basement, even if I wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zravkapt View Post
    What will artists considered "prog" in 2029 sound like? Will there still be bands that go out of their way to sound like something from 1974?
    Beats me, but what do i know...

    2029

    • Human-like AI is becoming a reality
    • Heavy automation of supermarkets and retail environments
    • Intelligent advertising is widespread
    • Mass application of gene drives on mosquitoes
    • Global reserves of silver are running out
    • Lake Chad disappears from the map
    • Madagascar's radiated tortoise is extinct in the wild
    • Phase 1 of the California High-Speed Rail line is complete
    • Jupiter's Great Red Spot is disappearing
    • The wreck of the Titanic has decomposed



    https://www.futuretimeline.net/21stc.../2029.htm#2029
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    I thought this was a question of how prog would change in the next ten years.

    And the answer is, how much did it change in the last ten years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabreath View Post
    I was a Quisp kid - never got on with the Quake types.
    If it isn't shot from a cannon, I want nothing to do with it. Thank you.
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    In 2029, Bjork will become a grandfather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabreath View Post
    FYI, Quisp is a former Trotskyite (as were most denizens of Planet Q) but is now a Democratic Socialist as far as I can make out. Quaker Oats is kleptocratic shameless American capitalist organization that co-opted the people’s cereal for crass earthly profit.
    I beg to differ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    In 2029, Bjork will become a grandfather.
    ZING!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    No, silly. Post-modern!
    Seeing as it's already been nearly 12 years since this came out, I'd say we're heading straight for the meta-modern:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    I thought this was a question of how prog would change in the next ten years.

    And the answer is, how much did it change in the last ten years!
    I think the transition of guitarists to an adoption of a metal/shredding style of guitar playing is complete for the more current acts.
    No matter what anyone says, you are the decider of how you will listen to music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zappathustra View Post
    Despite the cheerful atmosphere here, I am not too optimistic. We need new blood urgently. I mean people in their 20's listening to and playing our music.
    hello that's me!

    i hope prog in 2029 has learned to play with more other styles and genres and has expanded much further...! and get's MORE avant in general haha

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    Digital technology has been the biggest single disaster to progressive rock. It trivialized the better musicians and opened the door to anyone with a laptop and hard drive filled with plugins and samples to make music and then claim to be a musician.

    The haters and deniers of this fact will continue to perpetuate that everything is handy dandy.

    Given that, VR or virtual reality is on the way into every home. People will plug in for their entertainment with the rising costs of live entertainment and most external entertainment will be gone after the great economic collapse. No one will be able to afford much of anything, yet alone leave the house.
    Drones will deliver goods and food for survival. All social life will be online.

    Progressive Rock in 2029 will be anything uploaded since 2027. The mantra "if it's new" it's progressing therefore progressive.

    Prog rock will be interactive in a VR venue in your own space. You can pick which musician you want to avatar yourself into and you'll find living
    in a place like "2nd Life" is more affordable and practical. Everyone will be a rockstar and be able to live it out in VR. You can pick your band, instruments and even the size and venue for your audience.

    This is exactly what people have been buying into now for decades. It's going in this direction because this is what most people want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullhead View Post
    Digital technology has been the biggest single disaster to progressive rock. It trivialized the better musicians and opened the door to anyone with a laptop and hard drive filled with plugins and samples to make music and then claim to be a musician.

    The haters and deniers of this fact will continue to perpetuate that everything is handy dandy.

    Given that, VR or virtual reality is on the way into every home. People will plug in for their entertainment with the rising costs of live entertainment and most external entertainment will be gone after the great economic collapse. No one will be able to afford much of anything, yet alone leave the house.
    Drones will deliver goods and food for survival. All social life will be online.

    Progressive Rock in 2029 will be anything uploaded since 2027. The mantra "if it's new" it's progressing therefore progressive.

    Prog rock will be interactive in a VR venue in your own space. You can pick which musician you want to avatar yourself into and you'll find living
    in a place like "2nd Life" is more affordable and practical. Everyone will be a rockstar and be able to live it out in VR. You can pick your band, instruments and even the size and venue for your audience.

    This is exactly what people have been buying into now for decades. It's going in this direction because this is what most people want.
    Dude, are you okay?

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