first Yes album since Talk to spend two weeks in the top 100 seems decent enough to stick successful in the hype line. acclaimed maybe harder to measure but I am sure it got some decent reviews. regardless my point is steve howe was more realistic about it in interviews. the comparison is jon and steve interviews not what the label says.
You'll see. Jon will tour. And Jon will tour with a full orchestra, and a big choir, and a 10 piece electric band, ice skaters, 3-D stage projections, and giant inflatable sea monsters who breath fire!! Then, then... you'll all be sorry with your sad puss faces and your over-priced Trevor Horn Return From Here CDs. Just you wait...
I personally prefer 'Toltec' to 'Change We Must'. And there are a couple tracks on Earth, Mother Earth I really enjoy (Concerto Uno and Concerto Due, to be precise). The More You Know is my least favorite thing he ever did. And I really enjoy Anderson/Stolt, more so than any of Jon's solo albums. Steve Howe had some beautiful tracks on 'Grand Scheme' such as Maiden Voyage (one of my very favorites of his entire solo career), and Passing Phase. I also enjoy his 'Spectrum' album. So hit and miss for both perhaps, but some nice gems scattered throughout.
all the people who hate the more you know the most must not have gotten from me to you...
Why does it have to be Howe Vs. Anderson? Okay, so maybe ARW's people have turned it into that, but I don't get that feeling from Anderson himself. Of course, he always talks up what he's working on, he's a very positive person (at least publicly). Personally, I have great respect for both Howe and Anderson and together they wrote some of the best music I've heard in my lifetime. Sure, it was all pretty much 30+ years ago, but still.
The Anderson Stolt album is for me, the best Yes related product I've heard since Drama (or possibly Keys). While I though Fly From Here was decent for a bunch of old guys (which I am becoming much more quickly than I would like), the 3 tracks I heard off Heaven and Earth (which were supposed to be the highlights, based on what I've read from people who actually like the album) just left me shaking my head. They sound like weak demos to me, unfinished ideas that still need to be fleshed out and worked into decent songs.
Honestly, the only Yes related product I'm looking forward to at this point is the next Anderson Stolt album. Yet still, I don't have an interest in "taking a side" in the current Anderson vs. Howe debates that happen here or between the bands publicists. I still think of both as fabulous musicians who both seem to have held on to a great deal of their skill and talent into old age (even if I don't always like the actual music they come up with or participate in).
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Yes hasn't made a great album since "Going for the One".
That was 40 years ago folks.
Why anyone has wasted their time buying all the watered down stuff since is beyond me.
I understand going to see a concert for nostalgia, and they play a fair amount of their fine works from the 70's here and there,
but this is a band so far past their peak it's really an embarrassment.
I don't know what happens to these artists creatively. There have been many classical music composers, jazz artists and even blues
players whom have done some of their best work well into their 7th decade. Yes is not one of them.
When it is all said and done, Yes will be remembered for their 6 great albums. Some conversation about the Peter Banks era, and couple
of nods to Tormato and the almost Yes "Drama".
It is so absurd that Yes, as weak as they are now, think they can split into two camps and do anything of substance or interest.
You say Yes, I say No.
^^^ To each his/her own of course but for me 90125, Keystudio and Fly From Here are near-classics. The others all have their moments, in particular ABWH and Talk. Most artistic entities have peaks and then decline. What are you gonna do?
At least wait until the ARW album comes out. Unless Jon still deludedly believes he can write hit singles with Trevor, and thus ruins the whole thing by including several such attempts, it might actually be quite good.
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Anderson was the one who approached Rabin by adding vocals to Jacaranda, not Rabin approaching Anderson and Wakeman by adding his guitar and orchestral sound to The Giving Tree. I'm quite sure Rabin isn't going to allow Anderson to add a song or three that don't fit the EP or album.
"Come on Trev, just four minutes of me yodeling in the Swiss Alps!"
"No. Period. If I need a yodeler, it will be you, and I'll let you know."
Rabin said in an interview last month: "I saw sheet music Jon accidentally left behind and the title was "Holy Lamb - Return Trip", but I tossed it into the trash. When he finds it in the circular file, he'll move on to other ideas."
See? Quality control is important to Rabin.
I'm in the minority. I really like The Big Generator and ABWH. My non proghead friends (male and female) have always gravitated toward BG and ABWH. When I explain about how the Prog community heaps distain upon "The Big Generator" they are truly shocked. They don't understand it. Personally, I feel both those albums are far better then Fly From Here and I like Fly From Here. Don't get me wrong...I do not enjoy Union or Open Your Eyes.
I believe that Jon Anderson's current composition skills are vastly superior to the sum total of the current YES lineup. I feel Anderson's albums "Anderson/Stolt" and "AndersonPonty Band" and his upcoming solo album "1000 Hands" will bear out my opinion.
Plus, ARW may release a few new cuts. Rabin's jazz fusion solo excursion "Jacaranda" and a staggering number of Movie soundtracks arouses my curiosity. Wakeman rises or falls to match the composition competence of everyone he's ever played with. Yes, I'm curious.
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Hmm. I think there are gems on BG and ABWH, but not consistency. 'Final Eyes' and 'I'm Running' are gems, as are 'Themes', 'Brother of Mine', and parts of 'Quartet'. I can't get behind things like the title track of 'Big Generator' or 'Order of the Universe', but I do think maybe those are examples of aiming low to shoot high, as they so eloquently expressed.
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Oh, you poor naif. In terms of projects led by Yes-musicians, for worst ever, as gojikranz said, try Jon Anderson's From Me to You, released 2008 (possibly without his permission). An honourable mention is required for the recent Eterniverse Deja Vu by Light Freedom Revival, on which Billy Sherwood and Oliver Wakeman play: truly atrocious. The More You Know shines in comparison to either.
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Skin & Wire, Jacaranda, Time and about half of Made in Basing Street would be my picks for the best Yes-related product of recent years. Honourable mentions to Invention of Knowledge, Emergent, Ode to Echo, Suburban Ghosts, 7, The Haunted Melody and Subterranean: New Designs on Bowie's Berlin.
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Invention of Knowledge was alone atop the heap as my favorite Yes related release since Magnification. However, I’m impressed with Fly From Here-Return Trip and I have to say I enjoy both albums roughly equally.
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