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    FRED- Notes From A Picnic. Any fans, thoughts etc....

    Found this down the YouTube rabbit hole and enjoying it very much. Anybody else?? Give me some feedback if you so desire!

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    By the way Noni's thread about Omni sent me along this path, thanks Noni

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    Gonna check out Fred-Fred from 71 next any thoughts on this one??

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    Wrong title should be Notes On A Picnic.

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    Only recently discovered this band as part of trying to know more about the violinist David Rose, who subsequent to Fred moved to France and had a good few years with Transit Express and then his own David Rose Band, with members of TE, Zao etc. Can't say much yet about Fred specifically I'm afraid, it's a very recent discovery.
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    ^^^ New to me, surprisingly interesting, nothing spectacular but a nice find for me, enjoyable and worth a listen or two. Fred-Fred is fun too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HONDO View Post
    Wrong title should be Notes On A Picnic.
    According to RYM, there are two posthumous releases and Picnic is the second one

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    Thx to Aymeric... I've got all three Transit Express albums on CD (good stuff, but nothing really extraodrniary for those years), but had no idea about what David Rose had done before

    didn't he also intervene on some later 70's or early 80's album of french groups? (either Gong or Alpes or something of that ilk)?
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    ^^^ Fred-Fred is the first from 71 I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Didn't he also intervene on some later 70's or early 80's album of french groups? (either Gong or Alpes or something of that ilk)?
    Not Gong, but he did play with Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes for at least one album iirc.
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    ^^^
    yeah, I was pretty sure it wasn't Gong, but last night was a tough evening to get over with this morning.

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    Didier Lockwood was the one who played with Pierre Moerlen's Gong ("Downwind" album + extensive tour of Italy & France), as he did with a lot of bands in the late 1970s before he became a crowd-puller in his own right. For a short while, he and David Rose were probably on an even keel popularity-wise, but then Rose seems to have largely disappeared (until his early demise in the mid-1990s, aged under 50) while Lockwood rose to fame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HONDO View Post
    By the way Noni's thread about Omni sent me along this path, thanks Noni
    No problem!....

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    Thank you HONDO, for starting this thread, just got 2 of their albums yesterday and enjoyed them immensely ..... I love folk music!!...

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    My pleasure Noni, enjoy the music, and a happy Sunday to you!

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    Got this a few years ago when it was mentioned here. I couldn't believe a band named "Fred" would be any good, but this is a wonderful album. Great classic Proggy Fusion with plenty of hot playing and great tunes. Right up my alley! I also have David Rose's first solo album and the Transit Express stuff, and I like all that very much as well.

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    ^^^ Bill I agree totally, this is right up my alley as well, and was pleasantly surprised that I would like anyone or anything named 'FRED'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    Got this a few years ago when it was mentioned here. I couldn't believe a band named "Fred" would be any good, but this is a wonderful album. Great classic Proggy Fusion with plenty of hot playing and great tunes. Right up my alley! I also have David Rose's first solo album and the Transit Express stuff, and I like all that very much as well.

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    Is this similar to Fred? what style of music would you reference this to..

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    Quote Originally Posted by noni View Post
    Is this similar to Fred? what style of music would you reference this to..
    In a sense they are all similar. I'd put both Fred and Transit Express in the Proggy Fusion camp. Instrumental music, hot playing supporting interesting compositions with that 70s jazz-rock sound. They each have their own vibe, but I'd largely put them in the same category. The David Rose solo album as well, same type of stuff.

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    In a sense they are all similar. I'd put both Fred and Transit Express in the Proggy Fusion camp. Instrumental music, hot playing supporting interesting compositions with that 70s jazz-rock sound. They each have their own vibe, but I'd largely put them in the same category. The David Rose solo album as well, same type of stuff.

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    Thanks!.....

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    Count me in as a fan of Fred also.

    Besides Picnic, I also have a live at the Bitter End album that is quite good.

    Their style/sound reminds me of Denmarks Dr Dopo Jam & Zappa and a sprinkle of Canterbury prog!
    no tunes, no dynamics, no nosebone

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    Quote Originally Posted by HONDO View Post
    Found this down the YouTube rabbit hole and enjoying it very much. Anybody else?? Give me some feedback if you so desire!
    Notes On A Picnic is absolutely stunning...

    for the first half of the album
    then somehow, they lost the plot on side 2
    but maaaaaan, that first half ... WOW
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    In a sense they are all similar. I'd put both Fred and Transit Express in the Proggy Fusion camp. Instrumental music, hot playing supporting interesting compositions with that 70s jazz-rock sound. They each have their own vibe, but I'd largely put them in the same category. The David Rose solo album as well, same type of stuff.

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    David Rose has a number of albums if one includes the "David Rose Band". But the DRB is hit and miss at best
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    I always enjoyed Fred.

    And there's another great little fusion band from the 70s whose name has four letters and begins with F: Frob.



    Only one album as far as I know, released in 1976.

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    Yo Micah that is a great one. I used to have this many moons ago and have totally forgot about it Thanks for the memory slap!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miciah View Post
    I always enjoyed Fred.

    And there's another great little fusion band from the 70s whose name has four letters and begins with F: Frob.



    Only one album as far as I know, released in 1976.
    Very nice jazz rock fusion.

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