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  1. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by auxfnx View Post
    it starts off with so much promise. But it doesn't change one bit throughout the album and so become very very boring from abouuut... half way through the first tune.
    Every song has the same instrumentation, same dynamics, same composition, same same same
    I can hardly hear the drums on this album. Is it me and my hearing loss, or is there not a drummer on this ?

  2. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by mandrake root View Post
    I've still not heard that Anderson-Stolt album. Is it worth my time?
    I like it a lot. Best thing Anderson has done in a fair while.

    Quote Originally Posted by abhorsen View Post
    but then again so were the ones Jon wrote and performed with Tangerine Dream for the same film in the real world, Loved by the Sun.
    Wrote and sung over the top of Tangerine Dream's finished work without their permission or, initially, knowledge.

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  3. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by jc90125 View Post
    I can hardly hear the drums on this album. Is it me and my hearing loss, or is there not a drummer on this ?
    Felix Lehrmann played drums on the album.

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  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    I like it a lot. Best thing Anderson has done in a fair while.



    Wrote and sung over the top of Tangerine Dream's finished work without their permission or, initially, knowledge.

    Henry
    I had no idea! It was because of that song I got interested in Tangerine Dream.

    Bill
    She'll be standing on the bar soon
    With a fish head and a harpoon
    and a fake beard plastered on her brow.

  5. #405
    listening back to anderson stolt now i think a big thing that stood out to me was the "imagination" sections which sounded like willy wonka stuff, which i did not enjoy. but there are some great passages in the album

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by Adm.Kirk View Post
    I had no idea! It was because of that song I got interested in Tangerine Dream.
    The film makers wanted a vocal, so they got Anderson in, not bothering to tell T Dream. T Dream were not happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckie View Post
    Just out of passing interest, a Topographic-related notice I spotted in the Times (London) on Friday:

    Autobiography of a Yogi was a great book.
    If I remember correctly Jon and Steve(or at least Jon) were both interested in Paramahansa at the time they were writing Topographic Oceans.
    I don't believe they ever joined Self Realization Fellowship, but still studied his teachings.

    Man, that photo brings back memories.
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    ^I believe Jon D is a member of the Self Realization Fellowship.

  9. #409
    Made some edits of Anderson/Stolt to try to minimise on the samey and less inspired sounding sections - can upload them later if anyone would be interested?
    1. Invention of Knowledge 13:41
    2. Knowing 7:09
    3. Everybody Heals 9:05
    4. Know 3:39
    Enjoying this arrangement quite a bit.

    Through the process of editing the album I noted that each of the suites was recorded at one tempo for pretty much the entirety of the piece, no variance, always solidly on the click track without any tempo dynamics. I believe this is part of what makes them sound same-y at their full length, and also the fact that Jon is often singing quite monotone, picking a 'key note' per song and singing most words with that note. And also most of his lyrics scarcely make any sense haha.

    But yes once the music moves that bit more and doesn't get stuck in those slow grand sections that don't add or do much, it's actually a pretty great record!
    Obviously I would like my edits though as it's just the bits that I like edited together...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the winter tree View Post
    ^I believe Jon D is a member of the Self Realization Fellowship.
    I didn't know that, thanks.
    My friend and fellow musician who I've known for 45 years is still a member as well.

    I think it was is one of the few Indian religions that escaped cult status.
    Throw in some Baba Ram Dass and Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind, and I'm good to go.
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    oh no, thread killer Top Cat STRIKES AGAIN!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    oh no, thread killer Top Cat STRIKES AGAIN!!
    You can't kill a Yes thread.

  13. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by auxfnx View Post
    Made some edits of Anderson/Stolt to try to minimise on the samey and less inspired sounding sections - can upload them later if anyone would be interested?
    1. Invention of Knowledge 13:41
    2. Knowing 7:09
    3. Everybody Heals 9:05
    4. Know 3:39
    Enjoying this arrangement quite a bit.
    That sounds an interesting idea. The thing that stops me revisiting this one very often is that repetitive quality to so much of the material. I love Topographic but agree that some judicious editing might make that an easier listen for some, and the same applies here. That said I will dig it out and spin it again, now that this thread has reminded me of it.

    One regret I do have is not picking up the vinyl when I saw it, the artwork is very good and I would like to have seen it in greater detail. I think it was pricey though, so I just went CD on this one.

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    Wasn't there a report that Invention of Knowledge was going to be re-issued with a different mix, or something like that? Whatever happened with that? I thought there was some talk about how Stolt wasn't happy with the drum sound, in hindsight, and wanted to fix that.

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    Maybe Trevor Horn could do a remix with him doing vocals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by floyd umma gumma View Post
    Wasn't there a report that Invention of Knowledge was going to be re-issued with a different mix, or something like that? Whatever happened with that? I thought there was some talk about how Stolt wasn't happy with the drum sound, in hindsight, and wanted to fix that.
    It's still in the works, last I heard. An expanded "deluxe" edition, with a hi-res audio mix. But I think the focus has been on IoK2 for the most part.

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