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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Yes - actually it wasn't a "line-up" in that it was purely a studio project, with several drummers (the initial plan was for it to be a Pierre Moerlen's Gong album with Pierre on drums). The album was called "Suffer" and came out in 1995.

    More info : http://www.calyx-canterbury.fr/cantdisco/index.html
    Click G and scroll down to Gongzilla for complete info.

    AH is on 4 tracks.
    Allan Qui? is amazing one of my favorite tracks he plays on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Allan Qui? is amazing one of my favorite tracks he plays on.
    Interestingly this originally appeared as "Alan Key" on Pierre Moerlen's Gong album "Second Wind" in 1988. Renaming it "Allan Qui ?" was brilliant - not sure if it was meant as a tribute to Allan (from Hansford Rowe, who wrote the tune) from the start... On the 1988 Ake Zieden (from the Swedish band Tribute) played lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Interestingly this originally appeared as "Alan Key" on Pierre Moerlen's Gong album "Second Wind" in 1988. Renaming it "Allan Qui ?" was brilliant - not sure if it was meant as a tribute to Allan (from Hansford Rowe, who wrote the tune) from the start... On the 1988 Ake Zieden (from the Swedish band Tribute) played lead.
    Thanks, I didn't know that. I'll try to see if they're on Youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    I much prefer Downwind to TitK... Downwind is worthy of Expresso II
    OT: Downwind will be re-released soon by Esoteric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedatolo View Post
    IMHO, "Gazeuse!" is one of the very best Holdsworth output, what he does with the acoustic guitar on "Shadows of" is mind blowing (and of course he always said that he couldn't play acoustic because it was not good enough....my god)
    As you might know "Shadows Of" is Holdsworth's own new version of the title-track from "Velvet Darkness". In an interview from 1978 he explained he re-recorded this song because he wanted to show that it could be done different. He thinks this version is much better, although not perfect (of course, Holdsworth never thought of his work to be perfect). In the same interview he said he liked playing in Gong, although he didn't know anything about flying saucers or sypersonic teapots. But he like the bizarre look of the musicians on music. On the other side he didn't like the "Gong-madness", the constant conflicts. And he hated "Expresso II" (I believe it was one of the albums he had listed on his site being the ones he wished he hadn't recorded).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    Found it on my shelves
    Gong Reading festival London 1976/08/28 60 minutes 8 FM
    Pierre Moerlen - Francis Moze - Allan Holdsworth - Didier Malherbe - Benoit Moerlen ? - Mireille Bauer ?

    Sound - less than mediocre
    I got that one on my shelve too, although dated on August 26th, based on http://www.calyx-canterbury.fr/bands...oldsworth.html
    Funny to see the actual poster mentions August 27th though:
    MM-21st-Aug-Reading-rock-advert-1976.jpg

    I also have a concert from Nancy, October 25th (also not the best quality).

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Yes - actually it wasn't a "line-up" in that it was purely a studio project, with several drummers (the initial plan was for it to be a Pierre Moerlen's Gong album with Pierre on drums). The album was called "Suffer" and came out in 1995.

    More info : http://www.calyx-canterbury.fr/cantdisco/index.html
    Click G and scroll down to Gongzilla for complete info.

    AH is on 4 tracks.
    Great album. Here's the title-track, featuring Allan too:


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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    And he hated "Expresso II" (I believe it was one of the albums he had listed on his site being the ones he wished he hadn't recorded).
    Can't find his old site now, but from a repost in an old thread here, the only Gong album he had on that list was titled "Live Gazeuse" which I guess was a bootleg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pb2015 View Post
    Can't find his old site now, but from a repost in an old thread here, the only Gong album he had on that list was titled "Live Gazeuse" which I guess was a bootleg.
    You may be right. I think the forum was taken down a long time ago. I do remember he indeed mentioned the live Gong, next to Velvet Darkness, Paz, Jeff Watson and some more.
    But as he mentioned it in this interview I thought it would be logical if he wished he hadn't recorded this one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    OT: Downwind will be re-released soon by Esoteric.
    Nice! I don't own this one. It's about time.

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    The 2 great tracks on Downwind are 2. Crosscurrents (6:11) 3. Downwind (12:30) and there they re-use the ostinato from "Expresso" (Gazeuse album).
    I like Ross Records guitar here, unfortunately he had stage fright, so he didnt have a career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    The 2 great tracks on Downwind are 2. Crosscurrents (6:11) 3. Downwind (12:30) and there they re-use the ostinato from "Expresso" (Gazeuse album).
    I like Ross Records guitar here, unfortunately he had stage fright, so he didnt have a career.
    Emotions is a great one as well, and to me this is still my favorite Gong album.

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