I do specifically remember a Wright quote around the time of the Division Bell where he said Waters was always so negative and critical that he [Wright] lost his confidence in his ability to play.
But then I also remember a Gilmour quote from the late 70s where he said "I won Roger a lot of best bassist awards" meaning that he really had been playing the bass. I forget what tracks.
So a two-way street for sure.
He probably meant "Hey You" (the fretless bass part). He also played bass on nearly all of side 2 of "Animals", I think. But actually not so much on earlier albums, except "Fat Old Sun" which is rumoured to be all Gilmour. For instance I think all the bass on "Dark Side Of The Moon" is Waters.
Seems to me he was probably joking as I don't think Waters ever received "best bassist" awards.
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Waters - Great lyricist but couldn't find a hummable tune if you spotted him three bars
Gilmour and Wright - superb musicians who struggle and flail with lyrics and grand concepts
I'll listen to the Division Bell any day over The Final Cut. But really it was all better when they all got along, when the sum was greater than the parts.
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Another Water's bashing thread. Some things never change. By the way he has written some great melodies, IMHO.
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Well, assuming we can really believe the bylines on The Wall (and I have the distinct impression we shouldn't), I think there's quite a few really good melodies on both those albums that would appear to have come from Roger. Certainly things like Hey You, Nobody Home (possibly the best song he ever wrote), Goodbye Blue Sky, and Mother all have very fine melodies.
But if we buy the idea those melodies really came from Roger, then what happened from The Final Cut onwards?! He stopped writing stuff like Nobody Home and started writing stuff that typically had next to melody, no hook, nothing but words. LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of words. And the very occasional guitar solo. So what happened? Did his melody writing muse leave him? Or did he have more help from Gilmour and Wright than he's willing to admit?
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As far as "developing rock theater", besides Waters and Bowie, there was also:
Alice Cooper
Genesis
Ange
Yes (unless you don't consider the mid 70's Roger Dean stage sets to be "theater")
P-Funk
and probably others I can't think of right now ('m deliberately leaving out one band, because no all the prog snobs will throw a snit if I mention them, and besides, however much I might like that particularly group, their version of "theatrics" was relatively minor compared to what Coop or Gabriel were doing).
The superb thing about Wright must be that he created his trademark sound, easily recognizable. Technically, he was far from superb, and I don't see him as the allround, jamming keyboardist with lots of groovy licks up his sleeve either.
He was the perfect fit in Floyd. But to me, the only superb instrumentalist in Floyd would be Gilmour.
I always thought Amused was a solid album,
I can easilly turn it to a 45 minutes fantastic album that stands besides the best of floyd with some very basic editing.
I think the reason for the "decline" in RW songwriting is mainly due to lack of filtering which Gilmour etc supplied.
My Christmas wishes: Interviewers would stop asking RW about his departure from PF & whether or not the remnants of PF will ever reunite. RW would release that album he's been promising "next year" for the last three years!
One more vote for rock theatre that RW forgot preceded his efforts, thereby lightening his single-handed mission: Jethro Tull.
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I'm not sure it was wise of Waters to reliven the dying ambers and ashes by pouring a bit of oil onto it
as for the timeline, Waters seems to refer to WYWH until The Wall recording times, rather than the post-Wall era (which was without Wright)
To a normaly unbiased observer, if course
But not in the eyes of Waters-haters on this site or anywhere else...
Even if it most likely valid and probably stung him for decades, he might've kept it for himself
On the way...
What hasn't he done that he claimed in those sentence you quoted?
Well Bowie (and Alice) did play with inflatable dolls on stage before Roger's pig... But going gigantic, Floyd went all the way well before anyone did (even The Stones or Miiiiichael J)
Exaaaaactly!!!! Only one good track (High Hopes) and plenty of fillers spread over three albums (incl Endless River)
No matter what was about studio recordings with Gilmour being a better bassist, Waters still had to play all of it on stage, right?
Yup, but ultimately Roger shouldn't have relivened the fire.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
But the Stones did debut the big inflatable cock in '75.But going gigantic, Floyd went all the way well before anyone did (even The Stones or Miiiiichael J)
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