Cardiacs--where to start?

**Kavus Torabi** · 04-21-2016

Here's a thing. When I joined the band James Larcombe dared me to play that solo as it appears on the record. He even gave me a CD in which he had sort of isolated it and slowed it down for me to work it out.
(Tim had said 'just do what you like' but when I told him I was going to attempt it like on the record, he was really into it)
I gave it a damned good shot. I practiced for ages. The results are on the, currently un-edited, footage of the Astoria show in 2005.
If that ever comes out you can judge how close I got.

**Steve F.** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by zombywoof

There's a live version on the old 'tube.

http://youtu.be/NqAJcBh3sEQ

I really really like that clip. Watch it a lot, actually.

**Steve F.** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by Kavus Torabi

I gave it a damned good shot. I practiced for ages. The results are on the, currently un-edited, footage of the Astoria show in 2005.

It's cool just thinking about the attempt.

**Facelift** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by zombywoof

If the people who frequent the blog are so brainless they take anything the man says as gospel without listening for themselves, they won't be ordering any Cardiacs albums any time soon anyway. I didn't read the article much, negativity is uninteresting to me - but I did read a few comments, which seem to be supportive of the work.

He has his own message board (or did - haven't been there in awhile). He's got followers who adore him and really do treat his words as gospel. Based on my own experiences there, they do acquire much of what he says is good. That said, most of them are younger (35 and under) and the majority of them don't buy anything except used vinyl, anyway. A few buy new CDs, but it's a very small number. So while there definitely would be sales if a particular review was very positive, I do not think it would have been that many of them.

**Steve F.** · 04-21-2016

I know this must have been discussed 37 pages ago, but this guy does a shockingly decent recreation of the solo, especially considering his instrument...

https://soundcloud.com/david-minnick...cardiacs-cover

the whole thing is great, but fwd to about 3:20 to hear the guitar solo recreation.

**Phlakaton** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by Steve F.

I really really like that clip. Watch it a lot, actually.

Since I watched it about 20 times this week - why not one more time! LOL

**Phlakaton** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by Steve F.

I know this must have been discussed 37 pages ago, but this guy does a shockingly decent recreation of the solo, especially considering his instrument...

https://soundcloud.com/david-minnick...cardiacs-cover

the whole thing is great, but fwd to about 3:20 to hear the guitar solo recreation.

I heard this a while back - friggin awesome!

**Phlakaton** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by Kavus Torabi

Here's a thing. When I joined the band James Larcombe dared me to play that solo as it appears on the record. He even gave me a CD in which he had sort of isolated it and slowed it down for me to work it out.
(Tim had said 'just do what you like' but when I told him I was going to attempt it like on the record, he was really into it)
I gave it a damned good shot. I practiced for ages. The results are on the, currently un-edited, footage of the Astoria show in 2005.
If that ever comes out you can judge how close I got.

Thank you for the reply Kavus. That must have been quite a challenge!! In one split second tearing a new direction off... wow. Huge props for giving it a go!

**chalkpie** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by Steve F.

I know this must have been discussed 37 pages ago, but this guy does a shockingly decent recreation of the solo, especially considering his instrument...

https://soundcloud.com/david-minnick...cardiacs-cover

the whole thing is great, but fwd to about 3:20 to hear the guitar solo recreation.

Unbelievable!!

**zombywoof** · 04-21-2016

Originally Posted by Kavus Torabi

I gave it a damned good shot. I practiced for ages. The results are on the, currently un-edited, footage of the Astoria show in 2005.
If that ever comes out you can judge how close I got.

This needs to be released NOW.

**chalkpie** · 04-21-2016

Getting back to "Sing" for a moment - aside from the millions of creative and amazing little things about this album - just how AMAZING is the guitar playing and parts? I mean from a playing perspective, the tones are just ravishing, and the playing is frighteningly ferocious, giving any punk or metal band a run for their money. The next time you listen to this beast, try to focus on the just the guitar playing and try to imagine if this was the only album The Cardiacs ever made, I think that Tim and Jon would go down in history as absolute geniuses on that instrument for their performances. I dunno, this is just how I feel. Its so easy to take this stuff for granted, but go ahead and have a go at "Bell Clinks" and see where that takes you.

**chalkpie** · 04-22-2016

**Phlakaton** · 04-22-2016

Originally Posted by chalkpie

Oh man... that was so gooood! Huge props for going for that solo! Love that Kavus

**zombywoof** · 04-22-2016

If that don't get you bouncing in your seat, you might want to check your pulse.

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**TCC** · 04-23-2016

"Sing to God" ... a masterpiece ... 1st time here!!
WOW!, love it!!.

ps: Cardiacs´newbie here as I wrote some many pages before!.

**Progatron** · 04-23-2016

Originally Posted by TCC

"Sing to God" ... a masterpiece ... 1st time here!!
WOW!, love it!!.

ps: Cardiacs´newbie here as I wrote some many pages before!.

Enjoy the journey! I agree, Sing to God is a masterpiece!

**Phlakaton** · 04-23-2016

Originally Posted by Progatron

Enjoy the journey! I agree, Sing to God is a masterpiece!

It was the last one to fold into my head... and now its really damn close to my favorite! A real gem on every level.

**chalkpie** · 04-23-2016

Originally Posted by TCC

"Sing to God" ... a masterpiece ... 1st time here!!
WOW!, love it!!.

ps: Cardiacs´newbie here as I wrote some many pages before!.

It's pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, good.

**Progatron** · 04-23-2016

One of the many things I love about it is that for such a long album, virtually every track contains memorable melodies or sections of music. That's rare in a double studio album like that. There's nothing that even approaches what is commonly called 'filler'... and there are moments on it that I can only describe as breathtaking (not a word I throw around lightly). It's just amazing. All of their music is, but that one rises to the top for me.

**TCC** · 04-23-2016

Originally Posted by Progatron

One of the many things I love about it is that for such a long album, virtually every track contains memorable melodies or sections of music. That's rare in a double studio album like that. There's nothing that even approaches what is commonly called 'filler'... and there are moments on it that I can only describe as breathtaking (not a word I throw around lightly). It's just amazing. All of their music is, but that one rises to the top for me.

Exactly!.
An álbum from 1996, right? ... man!!.

"Not many people will know who these guys are, but ask members of bands such as Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, Blur, Opeth and experimental weirdos Mr Bungle and you’ll see just how influential this little known English band really is."
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/6...-Sing-to-God-/

Love this: "Pronk" - Progressive Punk - Prog Punk ... the supposed inventors and sole members of the genre 'pronk' (prog punk).
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7036

Yo, hate labeling BTW :-)