I own four of those listed so am I missing out on some prog metal classics?
http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-10-...e-metal-albums
I own four of those listed so am I missing out on some prog metal classics?
http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-10-...e-metal-albums
There's also a whole "outlier" wing of prog-metal not mentioned here: Mr. Bungle, their various descendants and related acts, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, and more.
Those are all good choices yes. I prefer this more extensive list... http://noisefull.com/articles/absolu...gressive-metal
+1Originally Posted by Johnboy
not a bad list, and the noisefull list is more extensive.
I made a list just from the 2000-2009 decade a couple of years ago that is probably worth sharing here:
http://allmediareviews.blogspot.com/...bums-2000.html
I like The Angra clip, never even heard of them but going to have to invest. Is 'Rebirth' regarded as their best album?
hmmm...
Pagan's Mind (earlier) - vocals (and everything else) like never done before
Leprous - vocals like never done before
Karnivool - whole freaking thing like never done before
Tesseract - same as above
so the ones in the list aren't essential for me, with the exception of DT and Opeth.
I might add Maudlin of the Well & Kayo Dot to that list too. Not metal in the true sense but awfully damn heavy.
indeed, theirs is way better but there are so many more....
i.ain't.dead.irock
Except none of those bands are prog metal.
Not a bad list but personally I'm not much into Mastadon or Angra. Two Fates Warning albums? Nice.
"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
Sad Rain
Anekdoten
Finally! Last Crack gets some love.
I much prefer Rage For Order over Mindcrime. And I'm a much bigger fan of Energetic Disassembly over Control and Resistance.
I think it is a pretty good list. I am not into all of the albums, but most I own.
QFT. But I'm sure that anyone with as eclectic tastes as the Man in here would find much to enjoy in those bands' music.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Yes
And yes
My guessing is that "Essential" is the best the genre offers, but that first list post speaks more to the "metal" heads than to Progressive fans. It's like typical metal with some added ingredients, none necessarily progressive.
The second list is far more desirable, with some exceptions of course, but there is a lot more to condense into your own favorite essentials i guess. Best thing to do is get the names of bands, googletube them and decide where your own tastes are, it's all subjective of course, Progressive Metal is not anymore well defined than progressive rock, and the subcategories get even more obscure, imagine that a band like Dream Theater is the same genre as Mastodon, or Eldritch and Spiral Architect? Fact is, that ProgMetal is it's own broadly brushed genre, and the subgenres have sprouted galore. Technical / Progressive Metal, Progressive Metal / Mathcore / Metalcore , Progressive Power, Gore, Core, Symphonic, NeoClassical, Technical Death / Progressive, Progressive Metal / Thrash, Progressive / Extreme, Post, etc. So there is not a well defined criteria for what makes a band "progressive" once again.
Not that I really care, everyone wants in, cause it's so cool to be "Prog"
Here are a ton of band names to search and research, and decide for yourself what is good.
Twelve Foot Ninja - 2012 - Silent Machine (2012)
Caligula's Horse - 2011 - Moments From Ephemeral City
Rush - 1978 - Hemispheres
Rush - 1981 - Moving Pictures
Lemur Voice - 1996 - Insights
Lemur Voice - 1999 - Divided
Tunnelvision - 2002 - Tommorow
Silent Voices - 2006 - Building Up The Apathy
Adagio - 2005 - Dominate
Lord Of Mushrooms - Seven Deadly Songs
Spheric Universe Experience - 2007 - Anima
Vanden Plas - 2006 - Christ.0
Toxic Smile - 2004 - Retrotox Forte
Superior - 1998 - Younique
Subsignal - 2009 - Beautiful & Monstrous
Sieges Even - 1995 - Sophisticated
Dreamscape - 1999 - Very
Dominici - 03 A Trilogy - part 2 - 2007
DGM - 2009 - Frame
Madsword - 1999 - The Global Village
Heart of Sun - 2007 - Heart of Sun
Soul Secret - 2007 - Flowing Portraits
Above symmetry (Aspera) - Ripples 2011
Ark - 1999 - st
Circus Maximus - 2005 - The 1st Chapter
Circus Maximus - 2007 - Isolate
Pagan's Mind - 2005 - Enigmatic Calling
Spiral Architect - A Sceptic's Universe
Umpfel - Cactus (2015)
Pantommind - 2009 - Lunasense
Myrath - 2008 - Hope
Persona Grata - Reaching Places High Above (2013)
Dreylands - 2010 - Rooms of revelation
Age of Nemesis - 2006 - Psychogeist
Disperse - 2010 - Journey Through the Hidden Gardens
Terminal - Tree Of Lie (2010)
Angra - 1996 - Holyland
Angra - 2004 - Temple Of Shadows
Khallice - 2003 - The Journey
Seven Side Diamond - 2011 - Enigma
Matraz - Gritare
Forgotten Suns - 2009 - Innergy
Pyramid - 2002 - Gaudi's legacy
Pyramid - 2000 - The Infinite Lie
A.C.T. - 2007 - Last Epic
A.C.T. - 2014 - Circus Pandemonium
Andromeda - 2006 - Chimera
Andromeda - 2003 - II = I
Mind's Eye - 2006 - Waiting For The Tide’
Pain Of Salvation - 1998 - One Hour By The Concrete Lake
Seventh Wonder - 2008 - Mercy falls
Time Requiem - 2006 - Optical Illusion
XSavior - Caleidoscope 2005
Haken - 2010 - Aquarius
Haken - 2011 - Visions
Headspace - I Am Anonymous
Dali's Dilemma - Manifesto For Futurism
Dream Theater - 2001 - Metropolis Pt. 2 Scenes from a Memory
Dream Theater - 1992 - Images and Words
Explorers Club - Age Of Impact
Fates Warning - 2016 - Theories Of Flight ()
Fates Warning - 1997 - A Pleasant Shade Of Gray
Native Construct - Quiet World (2015)
Secret Society Of Starfish - 2011 Dark Reflections From The Waters Edge
Suspyre - 2012 - Suspyre
Symphony X - 2000 - V
Symphony X - 2002 - The Odysee
Thought Chamber - 2007 - Angular Perceptions(USA)
District 97 - 2010 - Hybrid Child
Cyril Achard's Morbid Feeling...in inconstancia constans(France)
To-Mera - 2008 - Delusions
David Maxim Micic - 2013 - Bilo 3.0
Venturia - 2006 - New Kingdom
Clearly I don't like Prog Metal much, the only one there I have is Tool, I tend to go for the his avant little brother with Sleepytime, Unexpect, Behold The Arctopus, Stolen Babies. Of the mainstream I'll go for the more instrumental with Gordian Knot, Animals As Leaders and the like.
Ian
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
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Mindcrime and Scenes from a Memory are the gold standard. Lateralus is good, but not on the same level. Cant speak for the other albums on this list.
I have Mindcrime but never play it, does nothing for me.
Ian
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
I concur. SE: not that Markus Steffen is just a footnote in the band's history but with Wolfgang Zenk, Sophisticated is completely fuckin sick. good call on Umpfel. I'll add something old and new
Heads Or Tales - Eternity Becomes A Lie (1995)
Watchtower - Concepts Of Math: Book One (2016)
i.ain't.dead.irock
Of the list in the 1st post, I have six of 'em. All six get regular spins in Casa Mudshark.
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If you ask me, yes. If you ask another Angra fan down the road, you might get the answer Holy Land. They are two very different albums....Holy Land featured original Angra singer Andre Matos who has a voice that seems to polarize some fans, though I think he's phenomenal. Holy Land is unique because it incorporates some traditional Brazilian musical influences. Rebirth is the first album with their second singer, Edu Falaschi; also a great singer if a bit more traditional prog-metal sounding than Matos. It's also worth mentioning that Angra has one of the most killer twin-guitar attacks I've ever heard. Kiko Loureiro (who is the latest victim to fill the Megadeth lead-guitar spot) and Rafael Bittencourt are both *amazing*.
I would also put the band's debut, Angel's Cry, in the mix (listen to the cover of Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights" on this album...if you can handle Matos here then you're good to go, lol). With those three, you have essential Angra I think.
serious effort here to pull off a list that long! well done... Calligulas Horse back then were only great on last track Vanishing Rites. That was pure genius. Tides was x10 better, Bloom was x10 worse than Tides.
And if we pigeonhole Architects as progmetal... well then I'd add Nemo with all their extensive legacy.
Last edited by sergio; 10-25-2016 at 06:12 PM.
oh... those Umpfel buggers!
Yes - it's a good "metal for beginners" list.
I absolutely agree. metal is "progressing" far more than any other genre of music.
Research "avant garde metal". There's a huge number of little-known gems to be discovered, and the style of music in that area varies hugely. (And no, it is not all "cookie-monster" stuff.)
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is not "prog metal" - because that genre belongs to the Dream Theater style of music.
But Sleepytime Gorilla Museum most certainly is "progressive" in the truest sense of the word. They're a damn-sight more 'progressed' than any of the bands on that list.
Regards,
Duncan
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