And it's not like their listings are pristine. There is A LOT of garbage there, a lot of errors and duplications and flat-out wrong information.
And it's not like their listings are pristine. There is A LOT of garbage there, a lot of errors and duplications and flat-out wrong information.
Here's a doozy I received today:
A comment was posted on Genesis - Live - Chicago, IL 10.03.07 which you submitted or contributed to.
Comment: Live recordings are not Albums
Remove Album from all your releases live recordings
"Always ready with the ray of sunshine"
Well you know what they mean, "bootlegs are not official albums" but Discogs lists so many bootlegs, pirate editions and just plain vaporware that they can't come out and say it.
Was it posted by one of the rabble, or did it come from Discogs/a moderator?Originally Posted by strawberrybrick
Same thing
I never add albums listings to discogs, if it's not there then I don't worry about it. I love it for an inventory database and to buy things every once in awhile, but that's about it.
Some flippng azzchle "hmvh" seems to be on an OCD warpath. "Does this video contain complete musical
performances" Discogs would server them selves a lot better by cutting these types.
That's a good idea. I'll use another account for that from now on.
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"Always ready with the ray of sunshine"
Business has been very brisk for me of late. It started picking up in December and has continued well into February. Unfortunately, I had my first lost shipment - and it was within Canada to boot. The guy has been very patient, but it's coming up on one month since I mailed it, so I will be giving him a full refund in the next couple of days.
Think of a book as a vase, and a movie as the stained-glass window that the filmmaker has made out of the pieces after he’s smashed it with a hammer.
-- Russell Banks (paraphrased)
Ugh. I recently bought a ten-CD Miles Davis set and it's not on Discogs... I want to catalogue it with the rest of my stuff but do I really want to enter this massive amount of info, only to have some jackass get all up in arms because I missed some obscure rule?
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^ That's why I have two accounts on discogs. One to enter, one to buy.
"Always ready with the ray of sunshine"
That's a good idea!
Indeed... never thought about it but I think I'll implement it.
Thing is that when you enter a submission into the database based on the minimum requirements you won't get into much trouble actually. Minimum requirements are Artist, Title, Format, full tracklist. All other data can be added at a later stage either by you or by someone else who owns the same set.
I entered the minimum requirements for that Glass Hammer disc last year, only to have someone become furious that I had dared call it a 'compilation' (which it is) rather than an 'album' (which it isn't). That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, really.
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Just made my first three purchases on Discogs today, will update as the process continues.
Nice.
My experience with buying on Discogs has always been positive. Granted, that probably has more to do with the merchants than the site itself... But I do think it's a great resource for information and for tracking down some things that are harder to find.
I have always gotten what I ordered... but the LPs I have bought have all been "visually graded" only, and invariably sound like crap even though graded M or NM.
Caveat emptor.
Visual grading is the norm in this game, as it should be.
Well I'll never make that mistake again. "As it should be"? How do you figure????
Because I may have a high end system upon which the record for sale plays well and without inordinate noise. You may be playing it on an old Victrola, and it's chance of playing well may be remote for reasons that have nothing to do with the record itself.
If a record looks NM but plays poorly due to a poor pressing, the place to address that is in the notes/description, not the grade.
When it comes to grading Discogs is the wild west. Much worse than Ebay. Play grading should be the standard but its not practical for dealers to listen to each album. You are lucky if you get a record that has been cleaned. For a high priced album, if you request a play grade the dealer will generally comply. Don’t be surprised if it winds up being radically different than what was initially advertised.
I’ve had comical experiences with overgrading on Discogs. Insist on returning the album and getting reimbursed for return postage. Don’t be afraid to leave negative feedback.
You have a very weird idea of what grading is.
Wow, I'm glad I've only ever used Discogs for buying and for reference! That's crazy.
Grading is based on the condition of the copy of the record. Basing it on the quality of the pressing would be like grading the condition of a used book on the content.
Uh, no.
Grading an LP on how it plays would be like grading a paperback on underlining, highlighting, bent or torn pages, stained cover....
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