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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    LoL!! I am familiar with most of the albums but just never liked anything enough to buy it. Closest I ever came to buying was Red but how often would you want to hear a six minute one note guitar solo?
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    Never been a huge KC fan, but Red really made my head explode. Such a heavy album, almost heavy metal.

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    Never been a huge KC fan, but Red really made my head explode. Such a heavy album, almost heavy metal.
    When asked why David Cross was no longer in KC at the time of Red, he said, "a heavy metal band is not place for a violinist".
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    "The Big Six" is not a reference to favorites, bands you prefer over others, etc, etc. It's a reference to visibility, sales, airplay that combine into the highest profile with the general public for Prog-Rock bands. The original use, afaik, was in the 90s in a feature article in Progression Magazine. The 6 were as stated in the OP here. While King Crimson and perhaps even Genesis, did not have the sales that ELP, Floyd, Tull & Yes had in the 70s, they probably had a high enough profile to merit inclusion. Although Gentle Giant put out a boatload of albums, I think you'd be hard pressed to make the case that they were "bigger" than any in the original reference. The emphasis is on the "Big," and six happened to be the number that allowed inclusion by all of the highest profile acts. I think there's a pretty good gap down to the 2nd tier acts like Camel, VDGG, Gentle Giant & Renaissance, all of whom were big enough to remain viable throughout much of the decade. While I haven't checked airplay logs or sales charts, I expect that the numbers would bear that out.

    I realize that this is all a very American perspective, but what can I say? It's such a damn big country that sales here drive worldwide sales. If you make it here, you've made it.
    It was the big 5 in my day (late seventies, UK) and it didn't include King Crimson...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie B View Post
    It was the big 5 in my day (late seventies, UK) and it didn't include King Crimson...
    That's fine, but may I ask where the term came from? Where it was in use? There weren't any Prog-Rock only publications back then, so did Crawdaddy or Sounds or whomever have a feature? It would be worth tracking down if they did.

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    The Wall
    Trick
    The Yes Album
    (I didn't own any Tull albums until later because everything from Stand Up to Passion was available to borrow from family members - I think TAAB is the one I heard first)
    ELP
    Court

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    Probably:

    Pink Floyd -The Final Cut
    Genesis -Trespass
    Yes -Close To The Edge and Yesterdays
    Jethro Tull -Too Old To Rock And Roll: Too Young To Die
    ELP -Works Vol I
    King Crimson -In The Court Of The Crimson King

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    That's fine, but may I ask where the term came from? Where it was in use? There weren't any Prog-Rock only publications back then, so did Crawdaddy or Sounds or whomever have a feature? It would be worth tracking down if they did.
    With the caveat that we're talking nearly 40 years ago, my memory is of seeing the term "big 5 of progressive rock" used in the British music press - i.e. Sounds and Melody Maker (I didn't get the NME). It always referred to Yes, Genesis, ELP, Pink Floyd & Jethro Tull. I don't know where the term came from, but the concept of a "big 5" of whatever was fairly common. For example the big 5 English football teams at that time were Liverpool, Everton, Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs. Times have changed a bit in that regard...

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    ^ Thanks.

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    I was a teen in the early 80ies so for me its:

    yes : 90125
    genesis; s/t
    pink Floyd - The Wall
    KC- Discipline (but this was much later)
    Tull- Broadswoard
    VDGG - Pawn hearts (quite a 'shocker' at the time)
    GG - Free Hand ( also much later)

    ELP- Mweh, cant remember. Surpressed.

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    Pink Floyd: Ummagumma
    Genesis: Foxtrot
    Yes: The Yes Album
    Jethro Tull: Stand Up
    ELP: ELP
    King Crimson: In the Court of the Crimson King

    I think it's pretty clear, for this aging sixty year-old, that 1969-70 was a very important period for me (yeah, I know; Foxtrot came later, but otherwise....).

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    Close to the Edge
    Trilogy
    Foxtrot
    Animals
    Starless and Bible Black
    never have owned a JT album 0_o
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    The Wall
    Abacab
    Fragile
    Aqualung
    ELP
    Red

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    Piper at the Gates of Dawn
    In the Court of the Crimson King

    I may well never own an album by any of the other four although I've come close to purchasing a copy of Aqualung.

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    Pink Floyd - wasn't much of a Floyd fan but loved Wish You Were Here.
    Genesis - didn't own any of their albums
    Yes - Close to the Edge
    Tull - Thick as a Brick (on cassette!)
    ELP - Trilogy
    KC - Red

    *in the case of Floyd, Tull, ELP and KC, these are also my favorite albums from these bands
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    Pink Floyd-Wishing You Were Here
    Genesis-Invisible Touch
    Yes-Big Generator
    Jethro Tull-Living InThe Past
    Emerson, Lake & Palmer-Emerson, Lake & Palmer
    King Crimson-Lark's Tongue In Aspic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck AzEee! View Post
    Pink Floyd-Wishing You Were Here
    Genesis-Invisible Touch
    Yes-Big Generator
    Jethro Tull-Living InThe Past
    Emerson, Lake & Palmer-Emerson, Lake & Palmer
    King Crimson-Lark's Tongue In Aspic
    Gentle Giant-The Power And The Glory
    Camel-The Snow Goose
    Kansas-Kansas
    Rush-Exit Stage Left..
    Marillion-Script For A Jester's Tears.
    Be a loyal plastic robot for a world that doesn't care... Frank Zappa

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    Fragile
    Tarkus
    Dark Side of The Moon
    Nursery Cryme
    Aqualung
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    Well, if I trust my fallible memory it went sort of like this

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    I always thought it was the Big 5.
    Wish You Were Here
    BSS
    CTTE
    Aqualung
    No Genesis
    Theres only 5 so that's it.

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