On the subject of Canadian rock bands, besides PT, Rush and Mahogany Rush, there is also Max Webster and FM, as well as BTO, Moxy, Pride Tiger, Coney Hatch and The Tea Party.
On the subject of Canadian rock bands, besides PT, Rush and Mahogany Rush, there is also Max Webster and FM, as well as BTO, Moxy, Pride Tiger, Coney Hatch and The Tea Party.
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I'd second that. Saw Frank on his last visit to the UK in the early 2000's, he played almost a 3 hour set that seemed to cover pretty much the same ground as the Real Live album. When I think about answering the question who is the best guitarist you have seen my mind runs through all the big names & legends but I don't think any of them would top the intensity, passion, tone and sheer power I saw that night. My ears were ringing for days after.
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Chilliwack!
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
The biggest act in the last few decades in Canada is the Tragically Hip. They tried to get into the U.S. market but without luck. The're truly an amazing band. Right now, the lead singer announced he has terminal brain cancer. What did he decide to do about it? Tour the country, awesome!!
The band hails from Kingston, Ontario (several prisons in the area). Here's a song about a prisoner...
Fair enough. My knowledge of MuchMusic comes from the late 90's. I do know there's a clip on Youtube somewhere of The Residents visiting the MM studio. As I recall, Homer Flynn, as usual presenting him as a "Ralph Records representative", and not an actual band member, is interviewed, while "The Residents" (how would we ever know if that was really them or just random actors/mime artists who were paid to wear the Eyeballs and tuxes that particular afternoon?) do just about anything but. Some of them are signing autographs, playing with the cameras, one of them goes into the control room and starts messing the video console, etc. In other words, typical Residents chaos.
I've got a bootleg video with a NewMusic segment on Marino, from circa 84 or 85, I think. That's where my old quote that I used to use from Frank, "Rock n roll is the art of imperfection" came from, that being his response to all the drum machine and sample driven music that was around at the time. I'd imagine he probably feels that situation is even worse now.MuchMusic and its predecessor NewMusic (started in 79 as a weekly with a couple of weekly reruns) featured a lot of Canadian music, but they weren't all that hard-rock-oriented. AAMOF, NewMusic was a much better show than MM, trying to feature more alternative stuff (beit the punk scene or alternatives)... They even did a few articles on Discipline-era Crimson... Webster got some attention, but this had to wait with UJ and the Rush collab Battlescar... and Kim Mitchell poor solo career (IMHO) got 100 times the exposition on MM that Wabster ever got on TNM.
[/QUOTE]I still thought MM was better than MTV, though.
By the time MM started airing Stateside, in the late 90's, the joke was "It's like a Canadian version of MTV, only they play music". MTV was cool for about the first 5 or so years, but after awhile, it started going south. Game shows, reality shows, cartoons, etc ruined MTV.
I have the live album which never really impressed me. A few years ago I downloaded Eye Of The Storm which does a lot for me. Great album. Good guitarist.
You bring up BTO but not The Guess Who?! I actually liked some of BTO's music. I always thought Hey You and Let It Roll Down The Highway were cool songs.
There's also April Wine, who I kinda dug. I never had any of the albums, but I remember digging the stuff MTV used to play. I always thought Sign Of The Gypsy Queen, Enough Is Enough, and If You See Kay (greatest song title ever) were awesome songs.
As for Chilliwack, I actually the like the records that the band made when they were still called The Collectors, back in the late 60's. I think there were two albums, and they were more in a psychedelic vein. Then as I recall, the lead singer of The Collectors left the band, and the remaining trio changed their name to Chilliwack, with Bill Henderson being the front guy, I guess. I have one Chilliwack, the eponymous double LP that A&M put out. That's got some pretty cool experimental stuff.
Of course, if you're my age, you remember things like My Girl (Gone, Gone, Gone) and Watcha Gonna Do, which were pretty cool songs. I always dug the vocal harmonies on My Girl, as well as Brian MacLeod's awesome guitar solo.
One more thought on Much Music: they did turn me onto Loreena McKennit, via them airing her Mummer's Dance video. I never did get anything other than that one album (which I've heard is actually a bit weak compared to some of her earlier records) and the Mummer's Dance CD single (because the version of the song that's in the video isn't actually on the album, just the single). I like what I heard on that one though. Always meant to pick up some of her other albums.
Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush Live (1978) is still one of my favorite crank my stereo to 11 albums. It leaves bruises.
"And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision."
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Getting back to Frank , I really hope that in addition to the blu-ray that there will be an audio only release from the marathon Cleveland show , even if it's a download .
here is a good interview with Frank on alloutguitar. I thought it was a 2005 interview but says 2006? most of his interviews are very similar and on topic. I had forgotten he was only 16 when he produced the first Mahogany Rush album and every one thereafter if I remember correctly. seems like there were several unfortunate turns in his career that were more or less forced upon him. I don't think he ever cared much for the business side of things nor fame and fortune. It's a fuckin' shame that he's so highly regarded by his peers and fans, yet one of his namesakes and domain is that of a female impersonator. the fan based Mahogany Rush site is rather 90's at best. quite frankly, it's kinda strange.
bobert, the interview he did with hit-channel in 2012 may shed a little more light on why we'll be RealLUCKY if that Cleveland show even happens at all. I remember a couple where he said he was only "kinda back in the music business" and he talked more about his faith than music. well, that's really not any of my business concerning the path he chooses to walk. at least there is the music which we do have. indeed, it is a Strange Universe
Well listen, someday
You'll hear a rush of wings
So distant, a sound of secret things
There, look there, up in that rusty sky
Yonder, sweeps the dragonfly
So awesome, he blocks the setting sun
He'll come to collect the souls of everyone
i.ain't.dead.irock
"And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision."
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Oh man, the Guess Who are such a big part of my growing up. Almost ubiquitous on the Canadian stations we'd pick up and hit after hit on US radio. Between my brother and I we must have had a dozen Guess Who albums in our high school days. Kinda faded as we turned to harder and more complex rock but still, the hooks remained. I saw them twice. First time was on the last show of the last tour in 1975 with Domenic Troiano. Second was in 2002 on an "oldies" tour with the Doobie Brothers. Randy Bachman was playing with them. Live, they were kind of a different animal. Despite being led by a keyboards guy the guitars were louder and harder.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
Not to mention Guess Who, April Xine, Streetheart and the very yucky Loverboy
First two album are psych rock gems...
Thoser two Collectors album are fantastic proto-prog , somewhere between Vanilla Fudge, Moody Blues, Doors (the long tracks) and HP Lovecraft
I'm not sure there would've been a English-Canadian rock scene if it wasn't for the Guess Who (from Winnipeg), April Wine (Halifax, then Montreal later on) and The Collector-Chilliwack (from Vancouver)... Toronto was nowhere in the late 60's (sort of speak, because there were plenty of groups but none that "pierced")... Quebec/Montreal was totally independant and Charlebois opened the horizons with Quebec Love in 67
Toronto exploded in 75 with Rush, Triumph, Webster (and much more later on)
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
I think probably the worst was the story about him supposedly being visited by the spirit of Hendrix in either a dream, while he was in a coma, or during an acid trip (depending on which version of the story you heard). It turns out it actually originated from a satirical piece that some record critic wrote, which was taken seriously by everyone. I think that damaged his rep in a lot of circles, and I know he remains eternally frustrated about that.
I think also being that were just so many great hard rock bands back in the 70's, they were probably one group who fell between the cracks, in terms of "breaking big". Oh, they were big, at the time, but they didn't break through to that ultra-big level, where your records continue to stay in print, on the label that originally released them etc. Of course, the label that released the first three Mahogany Rush albums folded, eventually, but the Columbia era records could have theoretically never gone out of print, if he had been able to maintain that same degree of pop culture visibility that, let's say, Aerosmith or Kiss, as two examples, had. And certainly when the whole 70's revival thing kicked in, it seems like Frank and Mahogany Rush were kind of not a part of that, for whatever reason. You certainly didn't hear snatches of Dragonfly, Try For Freedom or The Answer on That 70's Show.
Yeah, I get that feeling too. I can well imagine management and label people telling him to do something more radio friendly or make some videos (certainly in the early 80's era) and Frank balking at all that kind of stuff. I can also see him becoming disenchanted when he was surrounded by people who constantly wiping white powder off of their noses (as I'm sure was the case during the 70's, and perhaps even beyond). It's easy to see why he finally retired from music and got a straight job for awhile during the 90's.I don't think he ever cared much for the business side of things nor fame and fortune.
Yeah, I noticed that back around 2000-2001, when I was searching Ebay for Mahogany Rush stuff (at the time, I don't think most of the CD reissues had come out yet), and a lot of what came up when you'd search for "Frank Marino" was publicity photos for the female impersonator. Made me wonder if the other Frank Marino was aware that he had hijacked someone else's name.yet one of his namesakes and domain is that of a female impersonator. .
TBH, I didn't even know MM lived that long and even got stateside, but yes, MTV wasn' playing any kind of music at all by the mid-90's if I judge by what we got over the Atlantic, so yes, I can imagine MM being better in the late 90's than MTV had been for most of that decade.
NewMusic died in 84 or 85, if memory serves... I may have missed the Marino segment, but generally you had 10 features of Carol Pope's Rough Trade or those kind of trendy pop-rock than u-you did of Triumph or Rush (whom the NM musical directors probably probably thought didn't need the support since they were getting huge south of the Niagara
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
AFAIK, I believe that the CDs were never OOP during the 90's and 00's, but the first three vinyls had become extremely rare by the late 70's, beit the Kot'ai (Can label) or the 20th C (US label)
My guess is that most of MR albums were out on CDs by the early 90's (even the Kot'ai Label ones), bur for some odd reason What's Next never saw a CBS CD release when the vinyl was clearly a Columbia album (as had been all MR albums sinc IV)
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
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