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    The Moody Blues get their own cruise! And it's more or less a prog one at that.

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    I don't know if they get 'the credit they deserve' or not; I just know it's been a very long time since they did an album that I liked. The 'classic 7' are outstanding, and I even like Octave; but everything after that is quite forgettable to me. Always felt that Pinder was a big loss for the band; shame they couldn't;t mend fences enough for him to rejoin.

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    I admit I have always liked Long Distance Voyager. Yes you have the two radio hits, but songs like Meanwhile and Nervous have stayed fresh to me 30+ years later.

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    There was talk last year of reuniting the classic band for the 50th anniversary of "Days", but I don't know what the status of that idea is.

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    Well.....I've always been a fan from the beginning....and I do think they get 'overlooked' at times but then they have always been on the softer edge of things with their music.
    I hope they still sound good because my daughter bought me tickets for a November show in my local area near Chicago. Can anyone tell me who's still with Hayward and Lodge and what their set list might be like?

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    Greame Edge, I believe, is the only other remaining member. They have a second drummer, too.
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    No, the Moody Blues don't get the credit they deserve. How many rock bands can say they've had top ten studio albums in three consecutive decades (60s, 70s and 80s) and not be in the alleged Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
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    Greame Edge, I believe, is the only other remaining member. They have a second drummer, too.
    Yeah, it's Hayward, Lodge, and Edge, supplemented on tour by a second drummer, two keyboardists, and a flutist.

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    As a band that has released the first *symphonic rock* album in the history of progressive music - I mean that really great Days of Future Passed album from 1967 - the Moody Blues don't get the credit which they deserved; the culprits are those revisionists who proclaimed that falsehood that ItCotCK was "the first prog album ever".
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    With all due respect to Mr. Edge, he hasn't been a key player during live shows for many years...he's just "sitting in". The "second drummer" was Gordon Marshall (1991-2015) and he took the reigns completely and is an awesome drummer. Due to scheduling conflicts, he was replaced by Billy Ashbaugh for the 2016 tour. Haven't seen them with Ashbaugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svetonio View Post
    ; the culprits are those revisionists who proclaimed that falsehood that ItCotCK was "the first prog album ever".
    This was first thought about and discussed after the fact, of course, and for better or worse, ItCotCK was the first album that was settled on. It may be wrong, but I don't think it's revisionist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svetonio View Post
    As a band that has released the first *symphonic rock* album in the history of progressive music - I mean that really great A Days of Future Passed album from 1967 - the Moody Blues don't get the credit which they deserved; the culprits are those revisionists who proclaimed that falsehood that ItCotCK was "the first prog album ever".
    I put DoFP in the proto-Prog category, one musical foot still in psychedelia; it resides in a state of becoming rather than being. "Prog" stands fully-erect with ItCotKC.
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    well they are in the R&R Hall Of Fame, that more credit then most Prog & Classic Rock bands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    The Moody Blues get their own cruise! And it's more or less a prog one at that.
    Didn't Kiss start off the whole band/cruise thing? Just asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dark Elf View Post
    No, the Moody Blues don't get the credit they deserve. How many rock bands can say they've had top ten studio albums in three consecutive decades (60s, 70s and 80s) and not be in the alleged Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
    I thought not being In the RRHoF gave artists credibility. I must be out of touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    I put DoFP in the proto-Prog category, one musical foot still in psychedelia; it resides in a state of becoming rather than being. "Prog" stands fully-erect with ItCotKC.
    It's very stupid revisionism emerged on the Internet. In the Court of the Crimson King was released at October 10, 1969.
    Aside of already mentioned Days of Future Passed (1967) [which was - before that revisionism at the internet - normally considered as the first *symphonic rock* album] by The Moody Blues, before ItCotCK there were released the progressive rock albums like Ars Longa Vita Brevis (November 1968) and Nice (September 1969) by The Nice, The Aerosol Grey Machine (September 1969) by Van der Graaf Generator, Music in a Doll's House (July 1968) by Family, s/t debut (December 1968) and Volume Two (September 1969) by Soft Machine, Shine On Brightly (September 1968) and A Salty Dog (March 1969) by Procol Harum, Stand Up (August 1969) by Jethro Tull, Freak Out! (June 1966), Absolutely Free (May 1967), Lumpy Gravy (August 1967), We're Only in It for the Money (March 1968), Cruising with Ruben & the Jets (December, 1968), Mothermania - The Best of the Mothers (March 1969), Uncle Meat (April 1969) by Frank Zappa / The Mothers of Invention (Hot Rats was released at the same day when ItCotCK was released), s/t album by Touch (1968) and so on.
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    ^What, no Nick Logan and Bob Wolffinden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    ^What, no Nick Logan and Bob Wolffinden?
    Well, you can belittle all of above-mentioned albums, but the fact is that in October 1969, when ItCotCK was released, Progressive Rock has already existed as a genre even in Socialistic Republic of Yugoslavia.
    Perhaps ItCotCK was the best prog rock album released in the sixties, I don't care, but ItCotCK is not the first album of progressive music and claim that ItCotCK was the first prog album ever, it's a kind of weird "religion" created by the idiots at progarchives.com.
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    well they are in the R&R Hall Of Fame, that more credit then most Prog & Classic Rock bands.
    The Moody Blues are not in the R&R HOF.
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    " (...) The Moody Blues were never a progressive band, that's a fact we must understand before reviewing this good album; they had some progressive approach and some distinctive elements of the genre but nothing more. (...)"

    Ivan Melgar ("SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Symphonic prog specialist") in Days of Future Passed review at progarchives.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svetonio View Post
    It's very stupid revisionism emerged on the Internet. In the Court of the Crimson King was released at October 10, 1969.
    Aside of already mentioned Days of Future Passed (1967) [which was - before that revisionism at the internet - normally considered as the first *symphonic rock* album] by The Moody Blues, before ItCotCK there were released the progressive rock albums like Ars Longa Vita Brevis (November 1968) and Nice (September 1969) by The Nice, The Aerosol Grey Machine (September 1969) by Van der Graaf Generator, Music in a Doll's House (July 1968) by Family, s/t debut (December 1968) and Volume Two (September 1969) by Soft Machine, Shine On Brightly (September 1968) and A Salty Dog (March 1969) by Procol Harum, Stand Up (August 1969) by Jethro Tull, Freak Out! (June 1966), Absolutely Free (May 1967), Lumpy Gravy (August 1967), We're Only in It for the Money (March 1968), Cruising with Ruben & the Jets (December, 1968), Mothermania - The Best of the Mothers (March 1969), Uncle Meat (April 1969) by Frank Zappa / The Mothers of Invention (Hot Rats was released at the same day when ItCotCK was released), s/t album by Touch (1968) and so on.
    You forgot Rare Bird's first LP.

    In my experience, the first album referred to--at the time; so not "revisionist" at all--as "progressive" was Paul Butterfield's East-West (1966), quickly followed by Fresh Cream, neither of which, I submit, would be considered "Prog" by PE'ers. The term was then quickly deployed promiscuously to describe virtually anything--regardless of how stylistically disparate--that didn't sound like Top-40 pop songs.

    All of the examples you list are, imo, progressive, but, with the possible exception of SM Vol.II*, fall within the parameters of a psych/proto continuum, varying in the degree to which they slouch toward full-on "Prog." Zappa, like Ellington, is sui generis, and stands in relation to progressive rock as Ellington stands in relation to "swing."


    * Even this I'm more inclined to include in "jazz-rock".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    "Prog" stands fully-erect with ItCotKC.
    It ain't prog unless it has a hard-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    (...) psych/proto continuum, (...)








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