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    Zappa Family feud

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    “Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin

    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    Maybe he'll put a dog head on.

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    This is a damned shame. I'll continue supporting Dweezil by attending his shows. Ahmet? If I was on the fence about the Kickstarter, I'm not now...
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    Sounds like DZ takes after FZ and AZ takes after GZ.

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    "Dweezil and Ahmet, who were once so close that they recorded two albums together and made regular appearances on late-night TV, now seem to communicate primarily through lawyers, with disputes over trademarks and music licensing."

    This paragraph gave me the chills, and not in a good way. WTF?

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    "Family feuds are the best" - my attorney who helped me navigate the total nightmare of dealing with GZ and the ZFT.
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    “Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin

    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    So why wasn't Moon and Dweezil given part of the Trust?

    Do they want a part of the pie from the ZPZ shows - Dweezil is not paying them - so they are throwing him the finger?

    Did Gail really charge her own son for using the name ZPZ?

    Does this also mean that Diva and Ahmet want to charge Dweezil over the music performing licencing?

    Questions, questions, questions flooding into the mind of the concerned young person today.

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    I thought their mom was difficult, but this is taking douchiness to a new level.

    It's like the non-talent siblings are jealous of the one with talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    I thought their mom was difficult, but this is taking douchiness to a new level.
    No. No one will ever top GZ. No one.
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    “Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin

    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    The dispute also spills over into the division of estate property, like a set of guitars that Dweezil said were given to him by his father but, he says, were “repossessed” by his mother.

    That's just...yikes. I am really sad to hear all this.
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    Man, I thought my family was nuts.

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    What a damn shame.

    I recall that back when Dweezil stated ZPZ, he was talking about playing festivals like Zappanale, or gigging with the Ed Palermo Band and other Zappa cover bands. His idea, at that point, was to have the best, most accurate FZ repertory band, not the only one. Later he changed his tune and followed Gail's line, but I always wondered whether he did so more out of necessity than conviction - whether he needed to take the Gail Party Line to avoid her giving him grief over playing the music. Now it looks like it might have been out of necessity.

    And I wonder whether Gail intentionally assigned the rights to the Zappa kids who would follow in her obstructive, greedheaded footsteps; I would not put it past her to do exactly that.

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    Yeah, the article on salon, where Dweezil was quoted as saying is mother charged him "Exorbitant fees" to play his fathers music...WTF?! Yeah, this is EXACTLY how to keep Franks music in the limelight, Jesus...

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    Sounds like Ahmet and Diva inherited the Gail genes. Odd that they are also the two that are untalented, and apparent opportunists.

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    I read this elsewhere. It's very, very sad, and fairly crazy. Dweezil's fans won't care what the name is and will fully understand. Dweezil can no longer use his father's photos and I assume, videos. That's terrible as well. What can be done except to keep supporting Dweezil live and Frank's music. Sigh.

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    This is disappointing.

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    Too bad when two of your kids are a couple of the blocks.

    Although we were initially promised the release of a treasure trove of unreleased FZ material now that Ahmet and Diva are in charge of the ZFT, I am tempted to boycott anything they release, since my perception is their motivation to do so is simple greed. Fuck them.

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    And I wonder whether Gail intentionally assigned the rights to the Zappa kids who would follow in her obstructive, greedheaded footsteps; I would not put it past her to do exactly that.[/QUOTE]

    I think you hit it on the head, John.

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    It's pretty simple, first DZ needs to get an agreement in writing that his band can perform FZs music. Then change the name of the band to Zappa Performs Zappa[emoji57]

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    This is so sad and embarassing that I'm speechless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapidfirerob View Post
    I read this elsewhere. It's very, very sad, and fairly crazy. Dweezil's fans won't care what the name is and will fully understand...
    Yeah, what's the big deal if Dweezil can't use 'Zappa Plays Zappa' anymore? Is this a case of Dweezil using the media to air sour grapes? What if it's a family conspiracy: Zappas Play US?

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    ...Questions, questions, questions flooding into the mind of the concerned young person today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    No. No one will ever top GZ. No one.
    You know, one of these days you really do have to write your memoirs Steve.

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    How about "Dweezil Zappa: An Evening Of My Father's Music"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taliesin View Post
    You know, one of these days you really do have to write your memoirs Steve.
    I will proofread and edit THAT, free of charge.

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    I really don't think the name change will hurt Dweezil. it does make me side with him though. The sad thing is that it's probably the last thing Frank would want.

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