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    Redundant by this time in the thread, but I consider:

    Remain in Light - Talking Heads
    My Life in the Bush of Ghosts - Brian Eno & David Byrne
    Discipline - King Crimson

    A kind of essential trifecta from 80-81.
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    Essential is a very subjective term. Essential for ME?!
    1980
    Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement
    Aviator Turbulence
    Bill Bruford Gradually Going Tornado
    Brand X Do they Hurt?
    David Sancious Just as I thought
    Den Za Den Den Za Den
    Dixie Dregs Dregs of the Earth
    Fermata Biela Planeta/Dunajska Legenda
    Frank Zappa You Are What You Is
    Gary Boyle Step Out
    Gino Vannelli Nightwalker
    Gunesh Ensemble Gunesh
    Hands Palm Mystery
    Harmonium En Tournée
    Herbie Hancock Mr. Hands
    Itoiz Ezekiel
    Iman Camino del Aquila
    Jean-Luc Ponty Civilized Evil
    Jeff Beck There & Back
    Jethro Tull A
    Luboš Andršt Capricornus
    Matrix Harvest
    Max Webster Universal Juveniles
    Serú Girán Bicicleta
    Stanley Clarke Rocks, Pebbles and Sand
    Tempano Atabal Yemal
    The Muffins 185
    Thomas Flinter Thomas Flinter
    Zamla mammaz manna Familjesprickor
    Stormy Six Macchina Maccheronica
    Yes Drama
    The Brecker Brothers Detente

    1981

    3pm Better Late Then Never
    Al Di Meola Electric Rendezvous
    Alan Gowen, Richard Sinclair, Trevor Tomkins & Phil Miller
    Alphonse Mouzon By All Means
    Billy Cobham Stratus
    Cartoon Cartoon
    Cozy Powell Tilt
    Didier Lockwood, Jannick Top, Christian Vander, & Benoit Widemann Fusion
    Dixie Dregs Unsung Heroes
    Dün Eros
    Eider Stellaire Eider Stellaire
    Fermata Generation
    However Sudden Dusk
    Kaseke Sõnum
    Keep DG 581
    Kultivator Barndomens Stigar
    Univers Zéro Ceux Du Dehors/Triomphe Des Mouches
    Yellowjackets Yellowjackets

    Admittedly, most of these were discovered well past the original release dates, and I compiled the list using the Proggnosis search by date of release feature "thanks internet"!

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    Seems like 1980 was a great year! Peak or near-peak for Samla, Art Zoyd, Present, Dun, This Heat, Picchio Dal Pozzo Universe Zero, Stormy Six, Cartoon, Muffins on and on - thanks for all the reminders and some new things to explore - I'll think I'll go on a 1980 listening tear.

    I think it was an interesting transitional time. I'm trying not to repeat. Here are some other great, interesting albums to me from those years:

    • The Enid - Six Pieces
    • Combo FH - Vecchi
    • Hugh Hopper and Alan Gowen - Two Rainbows Daily
    • L. Shankar - Who's to Know
    • Steve Tibbets - Yr
    • Mnemonists - Horde
    • Art Bears - The World as it is Today
    • Jon Hassell - Dream Theory in Malaya
    • Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Music From/Penguin Cafe Orchestra
    • Phillipe Cauvin - Climage (OK that might have been 82, but sue my I stuck it in because it's great and unique)



    ...and I'll throw in a favorite for fans tragically obscure jazz
    • Lou Stein - Temple of the Gods
    • and the fantastic masterpiece Alain Eckert Quartet - Alain Eckert Quartet!

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    That's crazy, there was tons of great stuff in 1980 and 1981. Allow me to copy and paste from my spreadsheet with no additional information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smcfee View Post
    That's crazy, there was tons of great stuff in 1980 and 1981. Allow me to copy and paste from my spreadsheet with no additional information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrybrick View Post
    As I'm working on my timeline, I'm find that 1980 and 1981 were for the most part some pretty lean years for progressive rock. There certainly were some classic, if not ground-breaking (Discipline, Peter Gabriel) albums, but the pickings appear to be slim for the generation of progressive musicians.

    Care to offer your essential "progressive" albums from 1980 and 1981? thanks!
    just 2 years eh? well here is a partial list of the ones I consider classics:


    Talking Heads Remain In Light
    Clash, The Sandinista
    Eskaton 4 Visions
    Fusion (Lockwood, Top, Vander, Widemann) Fusion
    Iman Califato Independiente Camino del Aguila
    King Crimson Discipline
    Terpandre Terpandre
    Ade, King Sunny Juju Music
    Bush, Kate Never for Ever
    Byrne, David & Brian Eno My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
    Dün Eros
    Eider Stellaire Eider Stellaire (K001)
    Firyuza Firyuza
    Flying Lizards, The Fourth Wall
    Fusion (Lockwood, Top, Vander, Widemann) Paris 80
    Gong, Pierre Moerlen's Leave it Open
    Gowen, Miller, Sinclair, Tomkins Before a Word is Said
    Jaivas, Los Alturas de Machu Picchu
    Lee, John / Gerry Brown / E. Albers / D. Thompson Brothers
    Pohjola, Pekka Kätkävaaran Lohikäärme
    Santana, Devadip Carlos The Swing of Delight
    Subramaniam, L. Blossom
    Camel Nude
    Cartoon Cartoon
    Davis, Miles The Man with the Horn
    Defunkt Defunkt
    Dixie Dregs Dregs of the Earth
    Eskaton Ardeur
    Gauthier, Patrick Bebe Godzilla
    Gunesh Ensemble Gunesh
    Massacre Killing Time
    Mink, Ben Foreign Exchange
    Nobilis Factum Nobilis Factum
    Police, The Zenyatta Mondatta
    Police, The Ghost in the Machine
    Ragnarök Fjärilar I Magen
    Rahmann Rahmann
    Ramm, Ken Dragon
    Rypdal / Vitous / DeJohnette To Be Continued
    Sky Sky II
    Subramaniam, L. Fantasy Without Limits
    Temiz, Okay Drummer of Two Worlds
    United Jazz + Rock Ensemble The Break Even Point
    Watkins, Kit Labyrinth
    Zamla Mammaz Manna Familjesprickor
    Last edited by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER; 03-07-2016 at 02:29 AM.
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    From Smak's Rock cirkus (1980) and Zašto ne volim sneg (1981) :








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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    I'll add to that

    1980: Debile Menthol (debut MC), Rahmann, Abus Dangereux (Le Quatriéme Mouvement), Art Bears (The World As It Is Today), Stern Meissen (Reise...), The Lounge Lizards (debut), Jean-Philippe Goude (Drones), Tako (U Vreci za Spavanje), Combo FH (Veci), Arrigo Barnabé (Clara Crocodilo), Arsenal (Dangerous Game), Family Fodder (Monkey Banana Kitchen), Gunesh Ensemble (Gunesh), Serge Bringolf (Strave), Wurtemberg (Rock Fantasia Op.9), Seru Giran (Bicicleta), Modry Éfekt (33), Master Cylinder (Elsewhere), Asia Minor (Between Flesh & Divine), Spinetta Jade (Alma de Diamante).

    1981: However (Sudden Dusk), Noëtra (Neuf Songes), Bise de Buse (Joue sa Musique), Alain Eckert Quartet (Alain Eckert Quartet), Magdalena (Lanea Sartzen), Cartoon (Cartoon), East (Jatekok), Gowen/Miller/Sinclair/Tomkins (Before a Word Is Said), Wha Ha Ha (Shinotukiwa Betsu), Serge Bringolf (Visions), Synkopy (Slunecni Hodiny).
    Yep, these ones as well could easily be on my list, on a second thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    Really? What a stupid and confrontational question! Clearly you don't understand what I wrote.
    What you wrote was something akin to "the only prog releases from these two years that interest me are [...]", and this apparent logic prompted a question as to whether you've heard ALL the 'prog releases' from those two years in order for you to discern that the rest of them for whatever reason don't interest you. Or have you perhaps just decided that all those other names and releases don't 'interest you' without even knowing what they're all about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    You love arguing don't you?
    No. I'm pointing to a complete breach in a statement's logic. This is a discussion forum about music. If your or anybody else's answer to "releases in 1980-81" is that there weren't any, while others demonstrate beyond reproach that yes indeed there absolutely were, then one part is essentially wrong or at least flawed or ignorant. "Discussion" consequently stops *there*.

    And don't go accusing other contributors in here of being quarrelsome - not you.
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    The reason why some thinks the eighties were a thin cupper, is because they are looking for the same types of (symphonic) prog that filled the seventies.
    The eighties offered lots of new types of amazingly innovative directions.

    If you dont like it - your loss.

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    Saga - Silent Knight (someone mentioned Worlds Apart but I didn't see this one listed)

    And I'll be the fifth or so person to say Zappa's You Are What You Is.

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    From Spendido Hotel LP (1980) by Al Di Meola (feat. Chick Corea)



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    Quote Originally Posted by notallwhowander View Post
    Redundant by this time in the thread, but I consider:

    Remain in Light - Talking Heads
    My Life in the Bush of Ghosts - Brian Eno & David Byrne
    Discipline - King Crimson

    A kind of essential trifecta from 80-81.
    That's pretty much it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    The reason why some thinks the eighties were a thin cupper, is because they are looking for the same types of (symphonic) prog that filled the seventies. The eighties offered lots of new types of amazingly innovative directions.
    Yes and yes. And not the one with Jon in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    The reason why some thinks the eighties were a thin cupper, is because they are looking for the same types of (symphonic) prog that filled the seventies.
    The eighties offered lots of new types of amazingly innovative directions.

    If you dont like it - your loss.
    +1
    The 80s is by far and away my favourite decade for all kinds of new and interesting music from metal to hard rock to new wave to synth to goth to post-punk to electronica to neo to indie to dance to techno to soft pop and straight up rock n roll. The 80s had so much to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Facelift View Post
    Univers Zero - Ceux du dehors (I think this was a 1982 release in the US, but others are including it, so...)
    There was no US release of this title until the 90s when it was issued for the first time on CD by me. In its original vinyl version, there was only 1 (UK) or perhaps 2 (possibly the band did a small run in Belgium) different, simultaneous European pressings.
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    My oh my, reading these lists...Y'all sure cast a wide net with your "Prog."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    +1 The 80s is by far and away my favourite decade for all kinds of new and interesting music from metal to hard rock to new wave to synth to goth to post-punk to electronica to neo to indie to dance to techno to soft pop and straight up rock n roll.
    Which is all very good and true, but what he was pointing to specifically was progressive rock from that decade - in other words progressive rock which had moved 'progressively' beyond the 70s, since we were now in the 80s. I somehow got the very faint impression that this was what the OP was after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    Y'all sure cast a wide net with your "Prog."
    You not heard da Bronski Beat?
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    "[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    My oh my, reading these lists...Y'all sure cast a wide net with your "Prog."
    And funny how "essential" seems to mean different things to different folk, don't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    There was no US release of this title until the 90s when it was issued for the first time on CD by me. In its original vinyl version, there was only 1 (UK) or perhaps 2 (possibly the band did a small run in Belgium) different, simultaneous European pressings.
    And the LP had such a great cover !

    http://universzero.dk/popup/ceuxpop.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by rottersclub View Post
    And funny how "essential" seems to mean different things to different folk, don't it?
    Yep. Strawberry Bricks was looking for suggestions for a book he's working on, if I understood correctly.

    He's probably beating his head on the monitor right about now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    My oh my, reading these lists...Y'all sure cast a wide net with your "Prog."
    I agree, hence my thread, which covers a lot of the bands that some proggers consider prog, for example, Mike Oldfield, Jarre, Squeeze, Kate Bush, OMD, Cardiacs, XTC, Vangelis and so on.

    I also notice people listing Hawkwind and Talking Heads albums as essential prog!

    Going by some of the submissions here, would it then be a fair assessment to say that this thread, like so many others before it, once again proves that prog beyond the realms of the classic prog rock of 69-74 (..70-76...whatever..YMMV), simply does not exist as a contained and identifiable musical style?
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