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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    This is just a guess, but the mob character in the show might be based on Morris Levy who was head of Roulette Records in the 60’s / 70’s.
    And owner of the Strawberries record store chain in the 80's/90's.

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    The notorious Levy was involved with this bizarre episode in John Lennon's solo career:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots:..._%26_Roll_Hits

    Again, the truth is more interesting than the fiction.

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    I worked for Morris Levy running his Strawberries chain for 2 years. Don't believe the hype. He wasn't really a villain.

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    How about the scene where he says, "Fuck Tull" and smashes the record of Passion Play. What a riot!
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    I didn't know it was Passion Play - they only played it for less than 30 seconds. Thanks. Yes, funny stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staun View Post
    Didn't Tommy James record on that label?
    See post #12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progmeister View Post
    I worked for Morris Levy running his Strawberries chain for 2 years. Don't believe the hype. He wasn't really a villain.
    In James book, he does not really portray Levy as a villain, but as a shrewd business man who had some pretty significant mob ties. I don’t think there is much doubt at this point that Levy was an associate of the Genovese crime family (he was convicted of extortion in the late 80’s). I recently read another book about Chin Gigante and Levy is mentioned several times regarding some of their business relationships. Of course these are other people’s accounts, so I guess it can be taken with a grain of salt.

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    If this show is aiming for accuracy,somebody forgot to tell those in charge that Taylor acoustic guitars didn't exist in 1973. They could have managed to bring in a Gibson,Guild or Martin. The Velvet Underground are still unlistenable. That curly haired guy who dissed them as atonal monotony he was spot-on so does anyone know who he was supposed to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rand Kelly View Post
    If this show is aiming for accuracy,somebody forgot to tell those in charge that Taylor acoustic guitars didn't exist in 1973. They could have managed to bring in a Gibson,Guild or Martin. The Velvet Underground are still unlistenable. That curly haired guy who dissed them as atonal monotony he was spot-on so does anyone know who he was supposed to be?
    I might start using that when people ask what kind of music I listen to
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=RTFR666=- View Post



    ...and with Vinyl, I just spent three viewing hours this weekend running into nothing but assholes...

    This is why I am not sure if I want to keep watching the show. Practically everyone seems like an asshole, violence at every turn (and believe me, I like violent shows, ala Walking Dead, but I'd like to see a little bit less focus on that here), and though this is unlike me (don't usually give a fuck), but I am kind of tired of the whole oft-repeated notion in some historical corners, that 'prog sucks, aren't bands who can't sing, or string four chords together awesome, and they are what rock is really all about?'

    On the other hand, I hope the show does well, and I appreciate the skill involved to make it, and maybe I'll get sucked in out of curiosity again next week, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boilk View Post
    This is why I am not sure if I want to keep watching the show. Practically everyone seems like an asshole, violence at every turn (and believe me, I like violent shows, ala Walking Dead, but I'd like to see a little bit less focus on that here), and though this is unlike me (don't usually give a fuck), but I am kind of tired of the whole oft-repeated notion in some historical corners, that 'prog sucks, aren't bands who can't sing, or string four chords together awesome, and they are what rock is really all about?'

    On the other hand, I hope the show does well, and I appreciate the skill involved to make it, and maybe I'll get sucked in out of curiosity again next week, lol.

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    I do not watch a show because of violence, I hate violence, but if violence would stop me from watching a movie or program, i'd probably not watch much of anything especially made by the Coen Brothers or Quentin Tarantino that would include others i.e. the classic movies like The God Father, Casino, Scarface etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staun View Post
    Didn't Tommy James record on that label?
    Yes, and if people consider James' music to be hip, then I stand corrected. But I've never met anyone that does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevegSr View Post
    But I've never met anyone that does.
    You have now. I quite like Cellophane Symphony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    You have now. I quite like Cellophane Symphony.
    How about "I Think We're Alone Now"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    You have now. I quite like Cellophane Symphony.
    Yep. The title track of that album is amazingly experimental and krautrocky, and "Changes" is downright prog--how many Moog solos in 5/4 time were you hearing in 1969?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    Yep. The title track of that album is amazingly experimental and krautrocky, and "Changes" is downright prog--how many Moog solos in 5/4 time were you hearing in 1969?
    I'll stick with the pubic perception of Tommy James then, which was of a bubble gum rocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevegSr View Post
    I'll stick with the pubic perception of Tommy James then, which was of a bubble gum rocker.
    Even so, he did quality bubblegum--I'm thinking of the excellent run of hits "Crimson and Clover," "Crystal Blue Persuasion," "Sweet Cherry Wine," "Ball of Fire." Great stuff, if'n you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    Even so, he did quality bubblegum--I'm thinking of the excellent run of hits "Crimson and Clover," "Crystal Blue Persuasion," "Sweet Cherry Wine," "Ball of Fire." Great stuff, if'n you ask me.
    I'm not saying if I think his music is good or bad but hip. And Mr. James' music was not considered hip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    You have now. I quite like Cellophane Symphony.
    Yep, that's a fine album- on the old site, someone dug out a fairly recent interview with him where he said he was influenced by King Crimson during that time. I think 'Cellophane Symphony' itself is like a lost Pink Floyd track.

    I always liked things like 'Mony Mony' too...kind of a garage rock bubblegum!

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    Just watched the first episode I really enjoyed it, it would be easy to pick holes in a lot of the accuracy but overall it was great fun. The led Zeppelin scenes were hilarious, plants accent was rubbish, I can't believe bonham would stand around saying nothing, but the guy playing Peter grant really nailed it ( apart from being very slim) the scene in the office was so Funny with the rant about the Germans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=RTFR666=- View Post
    ...and with Vinyl, I just spent three viewing hours this weekend running into nothing but assholes...
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    Ha HA that Tull scene. Threw the other guy out and told him to take the Jefferson Airplane poster.
    Yeah the modern world view of the 70's really is warped.
    It's a TV show so I'll play along. I enjoy the show, reminds me of my punk brother coming home with a new album and I'm playing a jam band or prog band.
    NY Dolls scene was cool although the streets of NYC in the 70's were bad but not that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickleback View Post
    “The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.” Hunter S. Thompson
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    Quote Originally Posted by hightea View Post
    Ha HA that Tull scene. Threw the other guy out and told him to take the Jefferson Airplane poster.
    Yeah the modern world view of the 70's really is warped.
    It's a TV show so I'll play along. I enjoy the show, reminds me of my punk brother coming home with a new album and I'm playing a jam band or prog band.
    NY Dolls scene was cool although the streets of NYC in the 70's were bad but not that bad.
    The idea of this show's record company owner trashing a vinyl copy of early Tull and looking for punk even before Aqualung or TAAB was released is laughable, but Mick Jagger is the music consultant for this TV show, so that figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevegSr View Post
    The idea of this show's record company owner trashing a vinyl copy of early Tull and looking for punk even before Aqualung or TAAB was released is laughable, but Mick Jagger is the music consultant for this TV show, so that figures.
    It's set in 1973. Which is why A Passion Play was the "new Tull" album.
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