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    Greatest debut !

    Two come to mind,

    Boston & Led Zep

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    That's enough for now.

    Edit: Your 2 for sure as well.
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    I thought King Crimson, PFM, Arti & Mestieri, and ELP had great debuts (though later albums were arguably better). Some bands had great debuts, like Et Cetera, but never followed up with anything else. But my favorite debut:

    Hatfield & The North

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    I've excluded solo debuts by performers in long running bands (so Lita Ford Out For Blood and Joan Jett Bad Reputation I've not counted, as two examples)

    Shades Of Deep Purple
    Kiss (shut up!)
    Blue Öyster Cult
    Eric Johnson Tones
    Hatfield And The North
    National Health
    Shades Of Deep
    Henry Cow Legend (or Leg End or however it's supposed to be spelled)
    Iron Maiden
    (pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd)
    The Outlaws
    Nena (good catchy songs, if you ask me)
    The Runaways
    Can Monster Movie (only album I had by the for the first couple years I was into them)
    Chuck Berry After School Session

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    My top 20, not in order of preference, excluding solo debuts by people from established bands


    Freak Out - MOI
    Are You Experienced - Hendrix
    Music From Big Pink - The Band
    Led Zeppelin
    ITCOTCK - KC
    The Gilded Palace of Sin - Flying Burrito Brothers
    Faust
    Inner Mounting Flame - Mahavishnu
    Can't Buy a Thrill - Steely Dan
    The Ramones
    National Health
    Marquee Moon - Television
    Talking Heads 77
    The Pretenders
    Murmur - REM
    3 Feet High and Rising - De La Soul
    Straight Outta Compton - NWA
    Cypress Hill
    The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld - The Orb
    Slanted & Enchanted - Pavement
    Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - Wu Tang Clan

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    Under The Sun
    Heliopolis - City Of The Sun
    The Steve Morse Band - The Introduction
    Spock's Beard - The Light
    The Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame

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    First one that came to mind was Boston for me. Spock's Beard, King Crimson, and Black Sabbath were the others that I would rank right up there.

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    Some great ones, but not "greatest"

    Leo Kottke-6 & 12 String Guitars
    John McLaughlin-Extrapolation
    Jaco Pastorius
    Tony Williams-Life Time, the Blue Note album
    Michael Brecker s/t
    Tribal Tech-Spears
    Brand X-Unorthodox Behaviour
    Dixie Dregs-Free Fall
    Weather Report

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    Quote Originally Posted by arabicadabra View Post
    The Steve Morse Band - The Introduction
    Good choice. I remember Guitar Player magazine used The Introduction itself on one of their Soundpages when that album came out. I must have played that damn song a million times, again and again and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Good choice. I remember Guitar Player magazine used The Introduction itself on one of their Soundpages when that album came out. I must have played that damn song a million times, again and again and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Some great ones, but not "greatest"

    Leo Kottke-6 & 12 String Guitars
    Kottke's first album was actually a record called 12 String Blues, released on a label called Oblivion Records, in 1969.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Kottke's first album was actually a record called 12 String Blues, released on a label called Oblivion Records, in 1969.
    An obscurity for the most part. But the Takoma album is considered his first official release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Two come to mind,

    Boston & Led Zep
    Two questionable examples.

    Boston had some utterly amazing commercial production and real highlights, but the amount of boogie rock 'n' roll dripping with saccharine lyrics dragged it way down.

    The first Zeppelin album has since been established as mostly uncredited covers. While the production is impressive and the variety fascinating, it's also dragged down by oversinging and overdrumming quite a bit. But irrespective of this and more objectively, because the material was largely lifted and expanded upon, it's got no business in a discussion like this.

    I like both of these albums, but these are your best examples to open your own thread?

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    I am surprised no one picked the first Asia & Van Halen albums.


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    PFM is probably my #1 here, but also (not counting one-shots):

    Amon Düül II
    Arti + Mestieri
    Kate Bush (perhaps not her greatest, but I still get tons of mileage out of The Kick Inside)
    ELP
    Happy the Man
    Faust
    Finch
    Hatfield & the North
    Jane
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    Magma
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffCarney View Post
    Two questionable examples.
    IMO Zeppelin was never better than on their debut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffCarney View Post
    Two questionable examples.

    Boston had some utterly amazing commercial production and real highlights, but the amount of boogie rock 'n' roll dripping with saccharine lyrics dragged it way down.

    The first Zeppelin album has since been established as mostly uncredited covers. While the production is impressive and the variety fascinating, it's also dragged down by oversinging and overdrumming quite a bit. But irrespective of this and more objectively, because the material was largely lifted and expanded upon, it's got no business in a discussion like this.

    I like both of these albums, but these are your best examples to open your own thread?
    The first Boston album knocked me on my ass the first time I heard it and although it has been played to death over the years I still think it is great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Some great ones, but not "greatest"
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    Weather Report
    The "greatest" IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Facelift View Post
    IMO Zeppelin was never better than on their debut.
    Can't agree. There just isn't enough original material nor discipline for me to ever consider it truly fair game for a "greatest debut." Though they continued to often lack restraint in a live setting, their albums began to show more and I think their music was better for it.

    A lot of the debut has just been ruined for me. When I listen to something like Bert Jansch's arrangement of "Down by Blackwaterside," for example, I just can't take "Page's" "Black Mountain Side" seriously.

    To me, aside from some of the mentions, a "greatest" debut is something like The Band's Music From Big Pink, Soft Machine's first or Henry Cow's first.

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