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    The Beatles - Revolution

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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
    What about it?

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    Well, the Hey Jude compilation version is much heavier than the one from the White.
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    It's from the upcoming promos-and-remixes collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    It's from the upcoming promos-and-remixes collection.
    I see. Hence its presence in the main section of the board.

    Sorry if I sound negative, but music clips posted without some kind of accompanying discussion, at least suggesting WHY they were posted, are a particular bugbear of mine.

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    Interesting story behind this great track. John insisted on getting a lot of distortion by overloading one of the pre-amps, much to George Martin's dismay. In fact, many returned their single thinking it was defective. John also wanted to find a way to get a certain rawness in his voice and was finally able to accomplish that by laying on his back while singing.

    Years later, when Peter Brown released his critical book about John (conveniently after John's death, I might add), he used a photo of John laying down that vocal, claiming that he was so inebriated that he couldn't stand up. Funny that John was so obliterated, but had cups of tea laying beside him on the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Interesting story behind this great track. John insisted on getting a lot of distortion by overloading one of the pre-amps, much to George Martin's dismay. In fact, many returned their single thinking it was defective. John also wanted to find a way to get a certain rawness in his voice and was finally able to accomplish that by laying on his back while singing.

    Years later, when Peter Brown released his critical book about John (conveniently after John's death, I might add), he used a photo of John laying down that vocal, claiming that he was so inebriated that he couldn't stand up. Funny that John was so obliterated, but had cups of tea laying beside him on the floor.
    Interesting story!

    Sorry to use it as a detour, but that reminds me of a story from the documentary, "Standing in the Shadows of Motown." Marvin Gay requested the great Motown bass player, James Jamerson for his track, "What's Going On." It was late at night and somebody had to go pick James up from his nightclub jazz gig that had just ended and bring him to the recording studio. By that time, he was so drunk that he couldn't sit on a stool without falling over, so he played the track while laying on the floor... and that's what you're hearing on that classic recording. I guess the moral of the story is that you can't keep a good man down even when he's laying down... or something.

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    This of course is the one they did for the promo video with different live vocals.

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    [QUOTE=ronmac;472795] John insisted on getting a lot of distortion by overloading one the preamps
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    In my younger fanatical Beatles' days, I remember reading that the two guitars were plugged straight into the studio's mixing desk with all meters reading in the red, which was the reason for the heavy distortion after the signals were immediately played backed through the monitors. You can hear the signal of the lead guitar actually starting to fade at the very end of the song from the extreme overloading! Fantastic!

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    That distortion was so wonderful - just biting so fucking hard. What's the details with this new release?
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    Sorry for the lack of text, but it was late last night when I found the video, and I was tired. Maybe I thought people would remember not seeing the video before. Anyway, here is all I know about the release so far:

    http://ultimateclassicrock.com/beatl...olution-video/

    http://ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-1-reissue/

    I dug the distortion when I first heard the "Revolution" single. I never thought it was defective. I thought it was John having fun.
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    Hmmm, I'm not a great one for videos, I guess I just assumed there would have already been a video of them doing that song if I had cared to search for it.

    Most of their recordings from that period were crystal clear, so I always assumed the distortion here was deliberate. It's a fun song, not one of my favourites, but the single version is much better than the album version ("Revolution 1"), which sounds like something played on the wrong speed setting on a turntable.

    I certainly don't need another Beatles anthology, but if it brings in a new bunch of listeners, well and good, because most of those songs still sound fresher today, 40+ years on, than the majority of songs currently on the singles charts.
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    For no good reason, other than I like it, here is another video of a different band, from 4 years later

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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
    For no good reason, other than I like it, here is another video of a different band, from 4 years later
    Well, there is a Beatles connection there, as you probably know.

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    How can they NOT have "Strawberry Fields Forever" on that release? It was a double-A-side with "Penny Lane."
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    ^This goes back to the stupid decision to not include it on the original 2000 '1'. I think it should have been on there instead of 'The Long And Winding Road', which technically was a posthumous Number 1 (it was released after Paul McCartney's press release).

    It's on the deluxe Blu-Ray/DVD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    I certainly don't need another Beatles anthology.
    Yoko needs the money.

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    Going to show my age here...anyone else remember when Revolution and Hey Jude were 1st aired on the Ed Sullivan show? I believe Hey Jude was first with Revolution shown the following Sunday night. I also remember loving Hey Jude and absolutely hating Revolution
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    I see. Hence its presence in the main section of the board.

    Sorry if I sound negative, but music clips posted without some kind of accompanying discussion, at least suggesting WHY they were posted, are a particular bugbear of mine.
    The Beatles invented the main section of the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Yoko needs the money.
    I assume you're trying to be funny, because she's worth a few hundred million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    The Beatles invented the main section of the board.


    They also invented rocks, time, and water.

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    Count me amongst those who prefer the single version of Revolution over the White Album version. The White Album version to me always sounded like a run through rehearsal, as if they were only vaguely familiar with the song at the time they cut that take.

    And yeah, I recall reading where Geoff Emeryck said he was nervous about letting John patch his guitar directly into the soundboard and diming the gain to get that distortion. He said if he were the studio manager, and walked in on another engineer doing that, he'd have sacked him on the spot. But that's such a great guitar tone.

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    If I were in a band I'd love to work up a version of Revolution that starts with the White Album version and then halfway through go into blitzkrieg mode.

    Is that the Epiphone that John is playing in that video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post


    They also invented rocks, time, and water.
    Actually, they discovered them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post

    Is that the Epiphone that John is playing in that video?
    Yes. John, Paul, and George were all given Epiphone Casino models by the company. The Casino was actually kind of a low budget model (which actually is true of most of the guitars they played, maybe due to their working class roots), which all three of them apparently took to quite well. I believe I read Paul used his on the Taxman solo and a few other such tracks (in the 80's, he played the guitar in the Spies Like Us video). John used his in the rooftop concert, too, as well as the concert in Toronto with Alan White, Klaus Voorman and some guy I never heard of named Eric Clapton (note: I'm being facetious, of course I've heard of Clapton...I used to be able to play Layla).

    I remember George saying that he and John, at some point had the finish of their Casinos stripped off (they were originally sunburst like Paul's) and "they immediately became much better guitars".

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