Mad Max : Fury Road...this movie is INSANE!

[luvyesmusic]

Hoo-boy, "pretty great work of art." That's a bit farther than I'm willing to go.

Exciting, action packed, great stunts, cool vehicles -- yeah I can buy that.

But I was bothered by many things. Why are all the children bald and painted white? If water is such a scarce resource why does the leader release it into the dirt? Where does the gasoline come from for all these vehicles? Why are the women kept like cattle, pregnant and dressed in lingerie? Where did all the explosives come from? Why was Furiosa taking these women to The Green Place? If the Green Place was all gone, what did The Mothers live on? Looked like a big sand dune to me ....

I dunno. Maybe I'm analyzing too much.

It's simply a fictitious movie. It's not real life. ;-) Might be just of a bit of an 'escape" for those whose lives really suck.

[Trane]

Hoo-boy, "pretty great work of art." That's a bit farther than I'm willing to go.

Exciting, action packed, great stunts, cool vehicles -- yeah I can buy that.

indeed... little more than an nicheexploitation film... o,e that goes way out of its niche , but an exploitation flick

But I was bothered by many things. Why are all the children bald and painted white? If water is such a scarce resource why does the leader release it into the dirt? Where does the gasoline come from for all these vehicles? Why are the women kept like cattle, pregnant and dressed in lingerie? Where did all the explosives come from? Why was Furiosa taking these women to The Green Place? If the Green Place was all gone, what did The Mothers live on? Looked like a big sand dune to me ....

I dunno. Maybe I'm analyzing too much.

Those loving the film will tell you:
- artistic freedom
- no need to explain of everything
- as you say, you're over-analysing

It's simply a fictitious movie. It's not real life. ;-) Might be just of a bit of an 'escape" for those whose lives really suck.

I wish that was the reason... but I know of many sound people that have good lives who still get suckered into goi,g to see crud like this...

same people who go see Batman, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and all "major event" movies, just to be part of the throng.... and some of them actually like that kind of movie

[Klonk]

after reading that last post I KNOW I'm gonna like this flick.

[Facelift]

I saw a preview before "Ex Machina."

It was two minutes of half-second jump cuts between explosions and bodies flying toward the screen. Everything went by so quickly that you didn't have time to focus, much less register what was happening. The net result was a kind of numb despair of ever comprehending what was happening, a kind of fatigue from being slapped a thousand times in the face.

Hopefully the movie itself stays on a scene or two linger than 1/2 second.

That's not representative of the movie, but it's still one long video game-eque chase scene in search of a reason for it to exist. About 40 minutes in you get informed about why things are happening (a welcome feature, as I was getting ready to walk out), but it's an action film with heavy emphasis on "action", and not much going on in the "film" department. It's not nearly as good as Road Warrior, IMO.

[Facelift]

Jesus, did we see the same movie?

I just got back and "a 2 hour mindless chase movie" is EXACTLY what it was. There was no plot to speak of, no characters of any depth, no surprises or breaks in the action. It was two grueling hours of car/truck/motorcycle chases through the desert, with non-stop explosions and mayhem.

Not unexpected, from what I had heard. But your description made it sound like so much more.

The thing that annoyed me the most -- besides the apparently unlimited petrol and bullets in a collapsed economy -- was the way George Miller sped up the film during every action sequence. Didn't that annoy you? I thought that technique went out with the 1920s.

Yep. It was like watching somebody else play a video game. Which is about as exciting as listening to somebody talk about their fantasy football team.

[trurl]

Yep. It was like watching somebody else play a video game. Which is about as exciting as listening to somebody talk about their fantasy football team.

Or their favorite prog band...

[dropforge]

same people who go see Batman, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and all "major event" movies, just to be part of the throng.... and some of them actually like that kind of movie

Music, movies...are you a snob when it comes to porn, too?

after reading that last post I KNOW I'm gonna like this flick.

You're gonna dig it. Trane's trying way too hard.

[Jerjo]

are you a snob when it comes to porn, too?

Ladies who prefer the company of ladies but...

Trane's trying way too hard.

That's pretty much it. Some people aren't meant for popcorn movies. Just like there are many prog fans that are so focused on their beloved genre that they can't see the glory in a simple three chord rock song anymore there are movie fans who can't balance between art house/indie films and big event movies. Keep in mind though, I'm talking "great" big event movies. Not that Michael Bay shit.

[Yodelgoat]

You gotta see these types of movies for what they are... like comic books. No one actually asks how Tony Stark can actually build a hadron collider in his garage, you just go with it. "That Iron man suit is just too unbelievable"... Yeah, I guess so.

My dad used to do this when he would see us watching the Flintstones... He would just blurt out "Well don't buy the damn bowling ball if ya dont have the money!!!" or when Fred is storming up the path saying "Wilma! I'm walking up the path - I'm opening up the door! I'm sitting down... My Dinner better be ready..." I would hear my dad mutter...

"Goddamm loudmouth..."

Some people just dont get it. - When someone goes.. "Why do the cars have all that unnecessary stuff on them?" It kinda makes the experience even more entertaining, because some people are incensed because "Its not real..." "Where do those pregnant ladies go to get their hair done?"

...REALLY???

[Facelift]

You gotta see these types of movies for what they are... like comic books. No one actually asks how Tony Stark can actually build a hadron collider in his garage, you just go with it. "That Iron man suit is just too unbelievable"... Yeah, I guess so.

My dad used to do this when he would see us watching the Flintstones... He would just blurt out "Well don't buy the damn bowling ball if ya dont have the money!!!" or when Fred is storming up the path saying "Wilma! I'm walking up the path - I'm opening up the door! I'm sitting down... My Dinner better be ready..." I would hear my dad mutter...

"Goddamm loudmouth..."

Some people just dont get it. - When someone goes.. "Why do the cars have all that unnecessary stuff on them?" It kinda makes the experience even more entertaining, because some people are incensed because "Its not real..." "Where do those pregnant ladies go to get their hair done?"

...REALLY???

There's a difference between not liking a fantastical premise, and not liking it when films violate their own inner logic or otherwise just don't make sense.

For example, not being able to like Ironman because such suits don't exist is not the same as questioning decisions/motives in a film that defy common sense even when the premise of the film is accepted, (in a post-apocalyptic wasteland with few resources, the bad guys in Mad Max are using theirs to power up an insane rig so that they can have an electric guitar player accompaniment to their vehicular battles?), or when films violate their own inner logic.

Objections based on the latter can't be dismissed by accusations of the former.

[trurl]

Or sometimes you just have to take the words to the MST3K theme song to heart. It depends on what the focus of the movie is. If it's providing entertainment value in other areas then fine.

[Just Eric]

But I was bothered by many things. Why are all the children bald and painted white? If water is such a scarce resource why does the leader release it into the dirt? Where does the gasoline come from for all these vehicles? Why are the women kept like cattle, pregnant and dressed in lingerie? Where did all the explosives come from? Why was Furiosa taking these women to The Green Place? If the Green Place was all gone, what did The Mothers live on? Looked like a big sand dune to me ....

Many of your questions were directly answered in the movie.

1. Bald and painted white was Imortan Joe's form of subservient cult. The "war boys" lived to fight and die and be reborn in Valhalla.
2. The leader doesn't care about the people and only release water to keep them from rising up to revolt.
3. Good question about the gasoline.
4. Breeders. The women were Joe's breeders to further his line. What else would breeders be dressed in?
5. I assume the explosives came from the same place as all the gasoline.
6. The "Green Place" was her home as a child. She was taking them to the Eden of her memories.
7. The "Mothers" lived on the same thing that any desert nomad lives on, what they could scavenge, steal or find.

[Yodelgoat]

It was just an observation, not an accusation

Most movies are stuffed full of "premise violations" I still enjoy them for what they are. Why didnt the Eagles just fly Frodo to the mouth of Mt. Doom and spare us all the drama? why didnt they just give the ring to the elves to take away as they traveled into the west never to return?

OK, perhaps I'm being a little too general here for some, but we all set our own credulity boundaries, but violations of plots, or "premise", does not a bad movie make - neccessarily.

[trurl]

Why didnt the Eagles just fly Frodo to the mouth of Mt. Doom and spare us all the drama? why didnt they just give the ring to the elves to take away as they traveled into the west never to return?

Because they are more akin to deities that will not interfere in the affairs of men (and hobbits and dwarves) unless there is no other recourse and they deem the recipients of such interference unusually deserving. They are literally deus ex machina and they do not use their power lightly

Also:

http://scifi.stackexchange.com/quest...ing-to-valinor

[dropforge]

Many of your questions were directly answered in the movie.

1. Bald and painted white was Imortan Joe's form of subservient cult. The "war boys" lived to fight and die and be reborn in Valhalla.
2. The leader doesn't care about the people and only release water to keep them from rising up to revolt.
3. Good question about the gasoline.
4. Breeders. The women were Joe's breeders to further his line. What else would breeders be dressed in?
5. I assume the explosives came from the same place as all the gasoline.
6. The "Green Place" was her home as a child. She was taking them to the Eden of her memories.
7. The "Mothers" lived on the same thing that any desert nomad lives on, what they could scavenge, steal or find.

The "juice," all of it, is acquired by theft or barter. (This was also plainly seen in The Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome.) In the beginning of the movie, Imperator Furiosa's caravan is headed to a place called Gastown, presumably to take more gasoline by force or threat. We see a war party from Gastown, and another from a place called The Bullet Farm, join Immortan Joe's War Boys in pursuit of Furiosa's rig, which is hauling a fuel pod that she had promised to the canyon dwellers for safe passage. That's why they blow the charges atop the narrow pass, to block the entrance.

[dropforge]

Because they are more akin to deities that will not interfere in the affairs of men (and hobbits and dwarves) unless there is no other recourse and they deem the recipients of such interference unusually deserving. They are literally deus ex machina and they do not use their power lightly

Also:

http://scifi.stackexchange.com/quest...ing-to-valinor

Deus ex machina is right!

I never got why there wasn't a ginormous regiment accompanying Sam and Frodo on the way to Mordor. Those two should have ended up in a stir-fry, all things considered.

[trurl]

Deus ex machina is right!

I never got why there wasn't a ginormous regiment accompanying Sam and Frodo on the way to Mordor. Those two should have ended up in a stir-fry, all things considered.

The Eagles are like your dad, who, when your mom says "for heck's sake, help the kids out!" says "nope, they gotta learn for themselves." Until you wind up in jail and he bails you out, but only the next day.

[Jerjo]

Even if the Eagles were willing to transport the Ring, there's two problems

1. It's the Ring. It corrupts and beings of great power are the easiest to corrupt. Hence the Hobbits ability to handle the thing and Gandalf's refusal to touch it. The effect of the Eagles would be similar.

2. It's not as though Sauron didn't have his own air defenses...

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[Yodelgoat]

I totally apologize for the hijack of this thread - all in all, I'm glad the ring came to Frodo. My punishment will be watching the plotless, premise-violating, pregnant-women-sex-slave laden Mad Max - once the DVD comes out on my new 65 inch big screen cause I refuse to pay excessive movie popcorn prices.

[dropforge]

^Who's forcing you to buy $12 popcorn at the concession? Robert?

[Gruno]

^Who's forcing you to buy $12 popcorn at the concession? Robert?

This is featured in Hoyts theaters in Australia for $17

[Trane]

Music, movies...are you a snob when it comes to porn, too?

Of course... classy porn ala David Hapmilton

Not that Brazzers shit. I like women to be respected in porn as well

If I need really hardcore stuff, I can make my own (no need of a camera... my eyes are enough )

Ladies who prefer the company of ladies but...

Hey, I'm a lesbian myself (only sleep with women )

That's pretty much it. Some people aren't meant for popcorn movies. Just like there are many prog fans that are so focused on their beloved genre that they can't see the glory in a simple three chord rock song anymore there are movie fans who can't balance between art house/indie films and big event movies.

Yeah, I guess "popcorn/cornball" movies are really not my thing... (and in Europe, the popcorn is mostly the sweet kind with that caramel shit) >> yukkk!!

I guess I mostly go for the "cinema d'art et d'essai" (though there are somme terribly boring crap in that niche as well), though I like a certain type of commercial movie as well...

I just dislike the stuff that should stay in comic books or cartoons... seems like MM, LOTR, IJ, SW fit the Batman & Superman movies.

[Gruno]

I just dislike the stuff that should stay in comic books or cartoons... seems like MM, LOTR, IJ, SW fit the Batman & Superman movies.

…then why are you involved with this thread?

[dropforge]

…then why are you involved with this thread?

Because he can't get enough.

[Trane]

…then why are you involved with this thread?

to enlighten you, poor lost souls!!