Tiny Tim - Kate Bush
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF STUPID PEOPLE IN LARGE GROUPS!
It was decades before I realised that Lazy Sunday Afternoon wasn't by The Kinks.
Punkish??? There was nothing remotely punkish about anything Joe Jackson did, he was firmly 70s pop/new wave, he sounded very similar to early Costello and Squeeze, Costello produced some of his stufff and some Squeeze stuff. He used keyboards, synths, even brass on some of his singles. Later he sounded similar to Steely Dan.
His best known single is definitely not punk!
His next best known single, again, nowhere near punk.
His third best known single, drenched in synths and keyboards, again nowhere near punk
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
I know it's Wikipedia, but they very much disagree with you:
In 1978 a record producer heard his demo tape, and got him signed to A&M Records. The next year the newly formed Joe Jackson Band released their debut album, Look Sharp!. Its mix of energetic New Wave rock and bitter British punk was in a similar style to the music of Elvis Costello and Graham Parker.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Well PeterG, now you know a little about Pat Travers (who the rock fan in me always liked, especially when he had another guitar player named Pat Thrall in his band). As for Pat Metheny, he's a jazz oriented guitar player who's one of the most popular of that ilk around here, maybe because a fair portion of his music has stuff in common with prog, like odd meters, more heavily composed pieces with multiple sections than your average jazz composer and some fairly "symph" sounding moments. It's no secret by now that you're not a jazz fan, but maybe even you would appreciate some of his stuff, as there are a lot of various genre elements in his music. Oh, and Travers is from Toronto, Canada; Metheny's from a suburb of Kansas City, Missouri, USA.
The problem is I've noticed in places like Germany, France, Italy that they say punk for all UK new wave, they just don't differentiate between Sex Pistols and Dexys Midnight Runners. In the UK and Ireland, the separation of punk & new wave is crystal clear.
You have now successful stuck "Is she really going out with him?" in my head as an earworm, I'm been humming it round the office and trying not to break into song.
I agree with you on the punk versus new wave definitions in the UK at that time. There was no mistaking which was which.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Travers will defintely kick your butt much harder than Thin Lizzy would. And his two bands are definitely more talented too.
try Makin' Magic, Heat In The Streets and Crash & Burn after the live Go For What You Know
If you listen to I'm The Man title track, Sunday Papers, etc, there's no mistaking that it's punkish (not the Sex Pistols way) or new wavish... or even post-punkish... The way The Jam or Madness had a punkish stream side to them, helped by a bit of reggae that The Clash or The Police used as well.
Well, in Canada, we had our own perceptions of these currents... To give you an idea, new wave mmeant electro-pop stuff like Human League's Don't You Want me or ABC or Ultravox's Visage or Gary Numan's Cars
gotta stop being so restrictive about these names
I have a feeling that UK was totally under the spell of the trilogy of the Weekly Specialised Brutish Music Press , who liked to rule the other two and made their own rules... This was especially the case between NME and MM
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
The first time I heard GENESIS when I was 14 I thought it was Cat Stevens. I think it was the raspy "old man" voice.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
The first time I heard Dire Straits (Lady Writer), I thought "Wow, that's the best thing I've heard from Bob Dylan in a long time!"
It didn't take me long to clear up that misconception.
Shadowfax and Spyro Gyra.
Hired on to work for Mr. Bill Cox, a-fixin' lawn mowers and what-not, since 1964.
"Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway." Anonymous
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” George Carlin
Most folks I knew who heard "Said She Was a Dancer" by Jethro Tull back in '87 thought it was Knopfler singing.
Most folks to whom I've played IQ's Lush Attic thoughout the years tend to point to a faint Genesis influx. But it isn't as if they're trying very hard at it or anything - it just COMES OUT that way. At least that's what I tell them. Makeup in the singer's face as well.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
There is a Led Zeppeling song, which to my ears sounds a lot like Rush.
Roine Stolt and Ethyl Merman
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