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    YYZ vs. Behind My Camel

    OMG. I'd never heard about this before and had never heard or heard of the Police track. Un-f'ing-believable.

    Rush lost the Best Instrumental Grammy for YYZ in 1981 to this:



    The members of Rush must have just shook their heads in wonder.

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    It couldn't have bothered them too much since they were already copping their sound (Vital Signs and later, The Enemy Within) with Alex doing his best Andy Summers imitation on the next few albums (Signals, GUP, Hold Your Fire).
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    That's boring me to tears. Reminds me of the Beatles' "Flying". What a throwaway track!

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    I always enjoyed the story of how Sting hated this song so much he tried to hide the tape by burying it in the garden.

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    I haven't seen anyone make this comparison (though they may have), seems this song is where Rush got their inspiration for Vital signs. Particularly the part at 2:34


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    I'm not a great fan of Rush, but yeah, their piece would have to be better than Behind my Camel. That's dreadful. It's even worse than Mother.

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    I remember when Zenyatta Mondatta came out. In 1980 I was in a musical, "no man's land." I was getting out of one musical style and getting back to my hard/rock roots. So I was still wearing flaired Levis and barely noticed the whole punk/new wave scene until 1980. I never liked that scene. I hated the way people dressed. I hated the skinny ties, and the nerdy, horn-rimmed look. I remember friends who still had long hair in 1979, then all of a sudden in 1980 they cut their hair and started wearing skinny ties. I hated the scene, and I resisted the music.

    But somehow, I heard about The Police in 1980. Da Do Do Do, Da Da Da was all over the radio. Everyone was talking about how great they were. I wanted to be "up to date" with what was happening even though I couldn't stand the image, vibe of this movement. I bought Zenyatta on cassette, and it just grabbed hold of me. What impressed me the most was the musicianship. It was sleek, and modern, but it was organic, and these musicians were insanely talented. I ended up buying the previous two albums and that was the extent of my foray into "new wave" or whatever you wanna call it. Nevwer went beyond those three albums and never cared to explore any other new wave band.

    I wasn't crazy about "Behind My Camel" at first but it grew on me quickly. It's just quirky enough for its time to make it really cool. I agree, YYZ is 100 times better than Camel but I still think it's a cool instrumental. The other instrumental track from Zenyatta that I like (it's probably my favorite track from the album) is "The Other Way Of Stopping." I'd like to hear Rush try that song.

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    What's "Behind My Camel?"

    Camel dung.

    ^^ remember when guys were dressing like Joe Jackson? Hated that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    It's even worse than Mother.
    Impossible.
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    Grammys are a crock like the R&RHOF.
    they wanted to give The Police a Grammy, so anything would do.

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    ^^ remember when guys were dressing like Joe Jackson? Hated that.
    Or like Trevor Horn....

    That's why I liked the police, they weren't punk but they sorta had the fashion, which wasn't nerdy.

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    Never having heard YYZ, I thought I had better listen to it.

    I need to amend my earlier comment. YYZ vs Behind My Camel: tough call. there's not much in it.
    Last edited by bob_32_116; 02-08-2015 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    OMG. I'd never heard about this before and had never heard or heard of the Police track. Un-f'ing-believable.

    Rush lost the Best Instrumental Grammy for YYZ in 1981 to this...
    I've been furious about this, every day, for nearly 34 years!

    This ruined my life.


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    I just listened to "behind my camel." Ok, it's not the worst thing I've ever heard but it's boring and repetitive and goes absolutely nowhere. Even the "weaker" instrumental RUSH tracks bury it in the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Impossible.
    No, I kind of like mother. It seems like a tribute to Norman Bates.
    Do not suffer through the game of chance that plays....always doors to lock away your dreams (To Be Over)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    Never having heard YYZ, I thought I had better listen to it.

    I need to amend my earlier comment. YYZ vs Behind My Camel: tough call. there's not much in it.
    I see a big difference between the two, personally. But you're free to consider them equal.
    Last edited by JKL2000; 02-08-2015 at 07:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I see a big difference between the two, personally. But you're free to consider them equal.
    I'm not suggesting they're similar, I just don't like either of them much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    I'm not suggesting they're similar, I just don't like either of them much.
    Like Rush, dammit!

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    Mother is funny as hell. Love it. The Camel song, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Like Rush, dammit!
    There are some Rush songs I do like.

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    Are you guys talking about the Pink Floyd song "Mother?"

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    it's funny cause I've never listened to Behind My Camel out of context of the album and in that context it works perfectly as a mood twist within the album. But as a standalone track it is very meh. YYZ OTOH has the compositional strength to stand alone.
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Mother is a track off The Police's 'Synchronicity' album. IMHO it's the best track on that album, reeking of Fripp's influence on Summers...

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    ^^ I'll bet Sting's Jamaican accent is really emphasized on that song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    ^^ I'll bet Sting's Jamaican accent is really emphasized on that song.
    Not a lot, since it's Summers who does the vocal on that song.

    Notice I didn't say "sings".

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