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No such thing as country-rock.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
The answer is in the question. It IS a fascination for many people, get used to it! Just because you don't get it doesn't make it any less real It is VERY real. The classification of music thankfully means that there are devoted record labels, radio stations, magazines, festivals, TV & radio programmes and so on. Would you prefer all styles of music to be everywhere all the time, qwihtout any division? I don't think so, because you wouldn't in that case be able to read about, hear or see much prog.
Why is it so important to pigeon-hole the music that you listen to? Why is it so important to argue about whether something like "Prog Pop" exists? It's a stupid argument - why does it matter????
The only question that matters is, "do you like it?"
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
I think its only natural to analyze the stuff that interest you, and classifying could be a part of this.
The problem is, that music is not science and the categories are pretty much floating bullshit
Still they make sense +/- 50%
Music-taxonomy is more of a social or religious event compred to discussing the periodic table.
Persecution complex much? I have taken the high road on you for years, my friend and most people here know better. I have no personal vendetta against you. If I did, you wouldn't be here.
It's hard for me to fathom that you're in your 50s and acting this way. You haven't changed one bit in all that time. Everyone is entitled to their opinions of course. But you tend to bully and browbeat, entering every single discussion that has to do with labels and referring to people who don't agree with you as "weenies", "trolls", and any other way you villainize and belittle those who differ from you. Then, on cue, whenever challenged you go into persecution mode. You're a one trick pony and you've come in and ruin many a discussion by turning the focus constantly on labels and categories relentlessly. I am sure I can speak for many that the collective response would be "Okay, we get it. Give it a rest.".
And look at your behavior in the Pink Floyd thread. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is suddenly part of the "Roger Waters volunteer troll brigade". It's a predictable pattern over and over and over again, and as a moderator here who has had to deal with several PMs and mod requests regarding your behavior over the years, I think I've exhibited a great deal of patience thus far.
But yes, if you really want to take the high road, consider changing your behavior with how you interact and debate with people whose perspectives differs from yours. It's too bad that someone with knowledge of over 5,000 recordings is spending the majority of his time focused arguing semantics about labels and categories instead of enriching the PE community with some insight and maybe turning people on to some new music. Ask yourself what you're truly contributing to this forum and if you're doing so in a positive and insightful way.
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Fascination. many people find it fascinating & need to do it. Just because you don't doesn't change how other people think or feel. It's not stupid at all, and as I said before thousands of specialised magazines, books, stations, awards ceremonies, festivals and record labels are more than sufficient proof of that. Proggers only support the non-pigeonholing stance because you can't pigeonhole a musical style that doesn't exist i.e. the elusive beast that is prog.
That must have been US commercial stations then. As that is not true of the UK, as there were no commerical radio stations in the UK in the early 70s! The only commerical stations in the early 70s being heard in the UK were foreign stations or pirate stations.
Proggers are people who listen to fusion, art rock, symphonic rock, modern classical, folk rock, jazz, avantgarde, electronica, experimental in the mistaken belief that all of them belong to the same non-existent genre that they call prog.
A musical genre has one unifying musical style or format - PROG DOES NOT! What do Henry Cow and Jethro Tull have in common? Bugger all!!!
What do Sam & Dave, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Smokey Robinson have in common? Plenty, among other things, the same musical styles.
What do Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Manowar, Raven, Saxon have in common? The same musical style and format
What do Soft Machine, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, ELP, Genesis, 5UUs, Pallas, King Crimson, Zappa, Henry Cow have in common? Not much, that I can hear.
Last edited by PeterG; 12-04-2014 at 11:07 AM.
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