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    The Story of the Legendary Mahavishnu Orchestra

    Anyone read this book? I was thinking of grabbing it.

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    Got to love the first review of the book on Amazon!

    "A most enjoyable read, Walter knows more about the MO then I do and I was the bass player! The facts are covered and there are bios of each of the members prior to the formation of the band" - Rick Laird
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    I read it. It's quite good. I didn't think it was incredible, but I thought it was well worth reading.
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    I agree with Steve. I enjoyed the read, but I have other books covering the same era and people that I like as much.
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    Legendary only in the authors mind. The term is used far too loosely!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Legendary only in the authors mind. The term is used far too loosely!!!
    I agree about the use of that term, but I think he might make a case for it with MO. I thought they were pretty groundbreaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Legendary only in the authors mind. The term is used far too loosely!!!
    I think there are a few people who would give MO the "legendary" tag.

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    If MO aren't legendary it's a bit hard for me to pick a band, certainly in the genre, who is...

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    ^ ^ ^

    I would. For sure. Whether you like them or not, I would say that between 1971-1974 or so, they were one of the most influential bands in existence in the jazz and 'progressive' worlds, both from an ensemble p.o.v. and from the p.o.v. of the individual players on their respective instruments (not including Rick).

    I recently saw Billy Cobham (he looked great, btw) and I told my wife that for a good 5 years, he was one of the top five most influential drummers. Period.

    If that doesn't qualify for 'legendary', I don't know what does. IMO.
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    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    I have no problem calling them 'legendary'.
    And if there were a god, I think it very unlikely that he would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence - Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by simon moon View Post
    I have no problem calling them 'legendary'.
    +1

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    Hell yes, they are legendary. Is the Kolosky book we're talking about?
    I'm in the midst of "Bathed in Lightning" and really enjoying it....

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    ...Not legendary only in poorly informed minds.

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    If they're not legendary, then what are they?
    no tunes, no dynamics, no nosebone

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
    If they're not legendary, then what are they?
    Mythological.
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    Groundbreaking, intense and yes, legendary.

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    Now that Carl Palmer, *he's* legendary! Here Murray, have some more corned beef...

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    Plus you have a group of ex-Zappa drummers who were watching the MO as a opening act saying "how the hell do we follow that?!!" If Ruth Underwood, Ralph Humphrey and Chester Thompson say that... ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlakaton View Post
    Anyone read this book? I was thinking of grabbing it.
    I'm waiting for the movie.
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    Or the soundtrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    I recently saw Billy Cobham (he looked great, btw)
    I guess you saw him at the Howard. Did you see Dennis Chambers there. Mike Kermisch sat at the same table with Dennis and didn't even recognize him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Legendary only in the authors mind. The term is used far too loosely!!!
    Don't mind Rufus, he's one of our resident jazz (or anything remotely related) haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    Don't mind Rufus, he's one of our resident jazz (or anything remotely related) haters.
    Not being mean or after Rufus for saying that - but give me an example of another band that could rip apart a show like MO. I can name a lot of amazing bands but MO from that 72-74 period were ridiculously out of this world. I've never heard a band that could play like that before or after on the spot live. I dont want to start a debate but if that's what happens... I'll put those guys up against anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlakaton View Post
    Not being mean or after Rufus for saying that - but give me an example of another band that could rip apart a show like MO. I can name a lot of amazing bands but MO from that 72-74 period were ridiculously out of this world. I've never heard a band that could play like that before or after on the spot live. I dont want to start a debate but if that's what happens... I'll put those guys up against anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlakaton View Post
    Not being mean or after Rufus for saying that - but give me an example of another band that could rip apart a show like MO. I can name a lot of amazing bands but MO from that 72-74 period were ridiculously out of this world. I've never heard a band that could play like that before or after on the spot live. I dont want to start a debate but if that's what happens... I'll put those guys up against anyone.
    You're preaching to the choir. I saw the MO Mark I three times and Mark II once (VotEB tour). I thought of them as gods at the time. Looking back with my (sometimes regrettably) more critical ears, they were a little sloppy (those unison lines often not quite in sync) and rushy, but I attribute that to the sheer adrenaline with which they played. The groundwork for fusion had already been laid by previous bands like Miles, Tony Williams Lifetime and Gary Burton, but the MO was the first full-blown fusion band. They set the template and they were really one of a kind; there was nothing remotely like them at the time. It wasn't just jazz meets rock; there were the Indian influences, Bartokian harmonies and all of those wild time signatures. And they were wildly successful; it was just being at the right place at the right time. One of the most groundbreaking progressive bands of all time... if that's not "legendary," I don't know what is.

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