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    Yes. Thats why I started the thread: I was...

    Yes. Thats why I started the thread: I was wondering if anybody remembers the Climax credit to the "I Love You" single. I figured PE was a good place to ask because of the depth, scope, and knowledge...
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    For the record, I didnt start the thread to...

    For the record, I didnt start the thread to debate merits of pseudoscience based on how many lava lamps I can drink --- as a matter of fact, Im very much a skeptic about such things. Still, the...
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    Music Related Mandela Effect moments

    If you dont know what the Mandela Effect is, its a person or group of people having memories of specific events that never happened.

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    IF you are responding to my posts: This is...

    IF you are responding to my posts: This is exactly why I stopped coming to PE -- Im going to reiterate this one more time --

    I never said that I have any expectation of anything, political or...
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    I never said that I have any expectation of...

    I never said that I have any expectation of anything, political or otherwise...I was only saying what my preference is and the OP specifically asked "What do you think?". In the case of this thread...
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    Im calling BS on your comment because there are...

    Im calling BS on your comment because there are plenty of bands like ELO, Duran Duran, Moody Blues, The Sweet, 10CCs, Klaatu, etc that have kept their politics-in-their-music to either a nil, a...
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    One last thing to my above post: Politics would...

    One last thing to my above post: Politics would also be a big factor for me in deciding......I don't care if someone agrees with me or disagrees with me politically: When I go to a concert I just...
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    It really depends on a lot of factors to justify...

    It really depends on a lot of factors to justify the ticket price......I did the Black Sabbath meet n greet, paid a lot of money to do that. I almost didnt do it because it was sans Bill Ward....
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    RIP to my second fave Bond as well........ I...

    RIP to my second fave Bond as well........ I would have tied him with Sean Connery for my Top Spot, as each had unique character traits and strengths that they brought to the Bond table, but he gets...
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    im counting it 4/4 too but it has some bizarre...

    im counting it 4/4 too but it has some bizarre syncopation (and 'backwards' drum pattern) in it that makes it very cool and not sound 4/4

    edit: lol - i can hear how it can be counted 5/8...
  11. Thread: Dimmu Borgir

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    Dimmu Borgir

    About as far away from my funk, jazz, soul, R&B, and Pop roots as I can get, Im a big fan of this band's music ( I can do without the "Cookie Monster" vocals but, if they werent there, they would be...
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    Im trying to think of guys that dont sing at all...

    Im trying to think of guys that dont sing at all - lead or backup or harmony vox - of any sort and dont even have a microphone onstage when they play live

    Peter Buck - REM (well, he never sang...
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    You guys grabbed all the ones I could think of,...

    You guys grabbed all the ones I could think of, so I will make a silly contribution to the thread: The Violent Femmes fourth album is called "3" :D
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    My Favourite Headache isnt great but its...

    My Favourite Headache isnt great but its certainly OK and Ive given it occasional repeat listens over the years.....The main thing I appreciated about it was Geddy exploring things that he never does...
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    RIP to the guy that made just about every hey...

    RIP to the guy that made just about every hey day-era Celebrity Roast worth watching....also, CPO Sharkey was a funny ass show

    Thanks for all the laughs
  16. Whether or not we like it or not, popular music...

    Whether or not we like it or not, popular music is always aimed at younger generations as the 'target audience' and Millennials and younger gens are used to the "Instant Gratification" of living with...
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    oh man -- good call :up New York Mining Disaster...

    oh man -- good call :up New York Mining Disaster 1941 , too

    I forgot about this one, too...your post reminded me of it....'tron is my favorite part


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH5f-QJcVN0
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    Benmont Tench plays some well-placed and tasteful...

    Benmont Tench plays some well-placed and tasteful 'tron on Johnny Cash's American albums.........



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oum_g4yKsz0
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    throw in a bulk of A-ha's albums, Dou3le,...

    throw in a bulk of A-ha's albums, Dou3le, TheBlueNile, and Air, and we have a whole new genre :D


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUhQXibl-n4
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    Sheriff I think its pretty amazing for a band...

    Sheriff

    I think its pretty amazing for a band smack in the prime of the video-age to have a song re-released and go all the way to #1 on Billboard's Singles charts without a video, tour....or even...
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    ^fixed that for you

    ^fixed that for you
  22. "Yeah, Mom, tell Grandma our band is playing down...

    "Yeah, Mom, tell Grandma our band is playing down the road from her. We're called <Fill In Any Band Named Above sans Steely Dan>"
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    agree -- Track 1, the title track, would have...

    agree -- Track 1, the title track, would have made a better closing track imo
  24. my focus is the era in the 60s and 70s before the...

    my focus is the era in the 60s and 70s before the actual "dub" explosion: the mechanics of what was going on in the studios that led up to it.....yeah, i get the whole "engineers treating the mixing...
  25. this is essentially the formula for most classic...

    this is essentially the formula for most classic reggae, especially the dub sub-genre...... as a matter of fact, its where the recording terms "dub" and "overdub" come from and was the basis for...
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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChZYRwZU8AAFpTa.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChZYRwZU8AAFpTa.jpg
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    yes....thats why i said 'many' and not 'all' ;):D

    yes....thats why i said 'many' and not 'all' ;):D
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    Note-value wise (the phrasing), many of Gilmour's...

    Note-value wise (the phrasing), many of Gilmour's solos are easy to play....What makes them difficult is trying to capture his feel which eludes many players...That Gilmour feel is what makes him a...
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    thanks for the heads up...i will order today!

    thanks for the heads up...i will order today!
  30. Thread: MST3K

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    rez thread Netflix has MST3K...I never saw it...

    rez thread

    Netflix has MST3K...I never saw it there before and may have missed the post for it so I thought Id announce it here if you have Netflix and were unaware

    Of course i had to cue up...
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    OK, Ill light a fire: Paul McCartney Im...

    OK, Ill light a fire:

    Paul McCartney

    Im listing him because he matured a bass players' feel throughout their career although he took to it pretty quick and managed to get that feel on many cuts...
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    I didnt know Jones did the bass parts........Not...

    I didnt know Jones did the bass parts........Not bad: he has a bass player's feel and he probably didnt even know that....agree thats a bummer about Glen Matlock but I thought Matlock did play on...
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    i dont know if that list is complete or not ---...

    i dont know if that list is complete or not --- also, studio photos are deceiving and could mean anything: its just as likely that Gilmour was just rehearsing a part for vocals, going over an...
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    I stand corrected -- well, partially: I just...

    I stand corrected -- well, partially: I just researched it and Waters did play the Money bassline...However, it was entirely Gilmour's creation....and Gilmour also re-recorded it for "A Collection of...
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    Peter Buck and Mike Mills are both...

    Peter Buck and Mike Mills are both multi-instrumentalists -- Buck plays mandolin and assorted unothodox instruments, like concertina. Mike Mills is a good guitarist in his own right and a decent...
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    I forgot about REM -- there was a period (early...

    I forgot about REM -- there was a period (early 90s) where they were all switching roles ---both Peter Buck and drummer Bill Berry played bass on a few tracks.....I have always considered Mike Mills...
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    Definitely a lite pet peeve of mine because a lot...

    Definitely a lite pet peeve of mine because a lot of guitarists play bass without a bass players' feel and -- well, at least for me -- is quite annoying to listen to :D...There are a few guitarists...
  38. Cheap Trick often covered The Move's...

    Cheap Trick often covered The Move's "Brontosaurus" live -- it was finally released on a bonus disc for their 1997 eponymous album, but that bonus disc was only a limited release
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    "Snobbery", in my post, is not supposed to be...

    "Snobbery", in my post, is not supposed to be taken as a negative -- its a "just is". Its just there amongst some (note: I said "some", as in "not all") of my (local) jazz players.... and, if used as...
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    Unfortunately, I can confirm that there is a bit...

    Unfortunately, I can confirm that there is a bit of uppity snobbery amongst jazz players just from my own little sub-cosm...but I also know better than to accept your cookie-cutter version of what...
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    He sang a few on the debut, including "10538...

    He sang a few on the debut, including "10538 Overture", which Lynne wrote....the funny thing about that song is that their TV appearances, like Top of The Pops, always shows Lynne on guitar...
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    Bassist Kelly Groucutt sang lead vocals on "Down...

    Bassist Kelly Groucutt sang lead vocals on "Down Home Town"....he also shared lead vox on "Nightrider" and "Poker" (Groucutt sings the primary while Lynne grabs the harmony), all three from ELOs Face...
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    I dont think anybody is putting them in a...

    I dont think anybody is putting them in a category with Mingus or Parker but I believe its erroneous to think that many of the musicians involved with Steely Dan over the years can't hang with "real"...
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    I missed this post -- Yes, thats actually my...

    I missed this post -- Yes, thats actually my favorite thing. Especially when they are written in a progression where select notes of each chord will ascend or descend diatonically or chromatically...
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    yay - Blue Bossa all night long? Is it true? ...

    yay - Blue Bossa all night long? Is it true?

    :lol ;)

    j/k ernie
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    This is very true. When I host or go to jazz...

    This is very true. When I host or go to jazz "jams", the bulk of the outside playing comes from these type of Real Book numbers...For example, songs like "All Blues", "Tune 88", etc are pretty much...
  47. perhaps you didnt rewind it all the way...........

    perhaps you didnt rewind it all the way...........
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    I'm more confused now than I was when I first got...

    I'm more confused now than I was when I first got my Chapman Stick.. :lol
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    besides, this phenomenon is usually referred to...

    besides, this phenomenon is usually referred to as a "return to form", not as a "comeback" :)
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    while i agree with the truth of this in...

    while i agree with the truth of this in commercial advertisement, I dont think its the intent of this thread :)
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    im not really sure what the definition of...

    im not really sure what the definition of 'comeback album' is but i always took it to mean the album following a period of hiatus (even if that hiatus period is long or short), not an album that...
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    Another vote for "Discipline"......I personally...

    Another vote for "Discipline"......I personally love that era

    I did like The Moody Blues "Long Distance Voyager" even though it was missing the trademarks of Mike Pinder but Moraz took them into...
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    My issue, like a lot of folks, is "Fake Ace" and...

    My issue, like a lot of folks, is "Fake Ace" and "Pretend Peter": Singer and Thayer should have had their own makeup designs, just like Carr and Viincent......thats where my KISS "comeback" issue...
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    and bass, too....he's a very bland/lackluster...

    and bass, too....he's a very bland/lackluster bass player......its usually easy to tell which songs he played bass on and which Kelly Groucutt did ( and by 1983's "Secret Messages", that sounds like...
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    i put both ELO's 'Zoom' (2001) and 'Alone In the...

    i put both ELO's 'Zoom' (2001) and 'Alone In the Universe' (2015) in this category........they don't suck but both are mediocre.....
  56. Piper at the Gates of Delerium dammit,...

    Piper at the Gates of Delerium



    dammit, Jim!! :mad
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    I have got to quit drunk posting :oops

    I have got to quit drunk posting :oops
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    agreed-- because im sick n tired of the Keith...

    agreed-- because im sick n tired of the Keith Moon subject, Im going to state my perspective as a working career musician, for the last time: Keith Moon overplayed, period....It really freaking...
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    While I always maintain that I don't care for...

    While I always maintain that I don't care for Keith Moon as a player, I do acknowledge that he was a big part of The Who's charm........for that timeframe, both albums were OK - decent even - if they...
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    Lookie what I just (coincidentally) stumbled...

    Lookie what I just (coincidentally) stumbled across: Heres pics from one of the dual bass band's shows...thats Ian-Bruce Douglas on the right

    https://s31.postimg.org/v4hfrbt0b/image.jpg
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